Electric Legends Of The Brighton Mainline

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  1. spamcanfan#4357

    spamcanfan#4357 Member

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    This loco pack would feature 4 locos that would give the brighton main line a 1980's feel to it

    BR class 73 (can haul Gatwick express, ordinary passenger, freight or civil engineers trains)
    4 VEP (can haul commuter trains or semi fast and fast trains to Gatwick and Brighton
    Class 33 (can haul 4TC, passenger and civil engineers trains)
    4CIG (can haul commuter trains or semi fast and fast trains to Gatwick and Brighton)

    Liveries:

    The 4VEP and 4CIG would be in BR blue/grey livery
    The Class 33 could be in BR blue or civil engineers grey and yellow
    The class 73 could be in BR blue, Civil engineers grey and yellow or intercity style Gatwick express livery

    Rolling stock:

    The rolling stock would be a brand new addition to the game. It would be:
    Class 488/3 and 488/2 (this is the loco hauled Gatwick express stock in Gatwick express livery)
    Class 489 (the Gatwick express DVT in Gatwick express livery)
    BR Mk1 in blue/ grey livery
    BR seacow engineers wagon (used to haul engineers train and would be in civil engineers grey and yellow livery)

    Scenario ideas:

    (Difficulty level 2)
    Drive a Gatwick express class 73 from Victoria to Gatwick and back

    (Difficulty level 4)
    Drive a BR class 33 (double headed) on a civil engineers service from Newhaven town to meldon quarry from wivesfield to Clapham junction. However, a train failure at coulsdon south means that all services now terminate at Redhill or go via the quarry line this means that there will be busy traffic and the icy conditions will make delays very likely

    (Difficulty level 2)

    With the 4 CIG units currently under refurbishment, class 33's and rakes of mk1's have taken over their services. Drive this class 33 to Reigate calling at all stations

    (Difficulty level 3)

    Drive a 4 CIG unit non stop to Gatwick airport and then semi fast to Brighton calling at three bridges and haywards heath there is a light drizzle from Victoria and it gets worse after Gatwick . watch out for the red signals!

    (Difficulty level 2)

    With extra capacity rush hour services needed, 8 car 4 VEP units have been modified to have a 4 TC unit in between. Drive this service from Brighton to London Victoria calling at : Brighton, Hayward's heath, three bridges, Gatwick airport ,east Croydon, Clapham junction and London Victoria
     
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  2. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    Me when no Class 460 ge :mad:
     
  3. spamcanfan#4357

    spamcanfan#4357 Member

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    *My opinion* to be honest tho I think that the class 460 is quite unappealing
     
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  4. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Agree with this statement and the suggestion itself.
     
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  5. Rail Runner

    Rail Runner Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestion. I think you could also layer in Class 47s as they too were very common on intercity services. You could also layer in other wagons such as hoppers for aggregates from Newhaven commonly hauled double headed 33s
     
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    oakleymoss#1362 Well-Known Member

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    I agree.. I hate the 460
     
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    oakleymoss#1362 Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestion! Would love some classic southern electrics for tsw3
     
  8. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Although ugly (to many), the Class 460 Juniper units were are part of GatEx history and fairly recently too. They were only ever found on GatEx services and should/could be included. Locomotive DLC is very lacking on many routes with London Commuter being no exception. I would like to suggest one other type for consideration, the 5BEL Brighton Belle EMUs which were somewhat special and different.
     
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  9. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    I'd say for a lot of routes (oldish ones) make like 19.99 loco packs like the bml one with historical ge, southern and the much needed thameslink? Maybe even a little steam train for old times sake.
     
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  11. spamcanfan#4357

    spamcanfan#4357 Member

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    Iwas thinking that they could maybe be used on a separate east coast way route dlc as they were mainly used on the Seaford branch (2hal)
     
  12. spamcanfan#4357

    spamcanfan#4357 Member

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    I could add it however the dlc is set in the late 80's and early 90's. I know that the 460's were introduced to the bml in 2008
    and that the 5 bel was withdrawn in 1972
     
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  13. Greyweasel

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    Not me, I'm a Vader fan, quite like several older Alstom UK DMU's & EMUs, so the variety would be welcome on the LC line. Definitely behind the class 73 push-pull sets with the 489 & 488 stock, they would be excellent too. I also imagine prior to 2005, there was some crossover of sharing the rails with the 73 hauled services before the 460 reliability upgrades. Though the 442 sets would be sweet for 2008 onwards as well.

    Edit: found out it was the case, they shared the line in 2001, that pic is at Horley. The second pic I can't find any info on, but it was probably made around the same time and the third is even earlier again.
     

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  14. spamcanfan#4357

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    Thanks for the images. I believe that picture 2 is a poster from br to promote that they were building the class 460's
     

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