Train Sim World 3 Elizabeth Line

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  1. west coastway trains

    west coastway trains Well-Known Member

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    Today I am suggesting :
    Elizabeth line from Abbey Wood to Heathrow and Reading.
    Elizabeth line from Liverpool Street to Shenfield.

    The elizabeth line is a line from east to west London, operating through the core of London. The line was fully completed and opened in 2022 and has been a massive success and I would like to see it replicated in tsw

    Stations on Abbey Wood to Heathrow and Reading:
    Abbey Wood
    Woolwich
    Custom House
    Canary Wharf
    Whitechapel
    Liverpool Street
    Farringdon
    Tottenham Court Road
    Bond Street
    Paddington
    Acton Main Line
    Ealing Broadway
    West Ealing
    Hanwell
    Southall
    Hayes And Harlington, where the line splits. One part continues to:
    Heathrow Terminals 2&3, where the line splits again, continuing to 1 of the 2 destinations of:
    Heathrow Terminal 4
    Heathrow Terminal 5

    The other line from Hayes And Harlington continues to Reading, calling at:
    West Drayton
    Iver
    Langley
    Slough
    Burnham
    Taplow
    Maidenhead
    Twyford
    Reading where the Elizabeth line terminates and heads back east through London. The line from Ealing Broadway to Reading is already modelled in tsw on great western express, so this part of the line wouldn’t need too much work.
    The line from Abbey Wood to Paddington is operated by ATO, the other lines however are fully manual driving.

    The line from Liverpool Street to Shenfield was formerly part of tfl rail, but is now the Elizabeth line. It calls at:
    Liverpool Street
    Stratford
    Maryland
    Forest Gate
    Manor Park
    Ilford
    Seven Kings
    Goodmayes
    Chadwell Heath
    Romford
    Gidea Park
    Harold Wood
    Brentwood
    Shenfield where trains terminate and head back west to Liverpool Street


    Rolling stock
    The Elizabeth line is operated solely by class 345 emus, built to a length of 9 cars each, with the possibility of being expanded to 11 coaches in the future if needs be.

    Photos won’t load, apologies. Here’s a link to a photo of the class 345 for those of us not familiar with it.
     
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  2. Projectoverseer

    Projectoverseer Active Member

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    Nice suggestion, I wouldn't mind seeing this route in the game. I am not sure if Dovetail would make the extra stations but would be cool if they did.
     
  3. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    I actually wouldn't mind having a route with a mix of ATO and DOO (thinks that's the abbreviation) and this would be a good route. Add a nice 315 and it'd be amazing. But i could see players finding the core Boring because tunnel.
     
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  4. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    Would love to have the Elizabeth Line in game whether it be the time before all terminating points connected, so for example it would go from Liverpool Street - Shenfield. Or if it was in the tunnels going through the portals, and even if it ended at Paddington when they had to continue on after terminating then they would come back to go to Abbey wood. But the Elizabeth Line would be great to implement new features into the game.
     
  5. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Fine if they did the Eastern end, but the ATO and tunnels would be very much offputting for playability
    Liverpool Street to Shenfield, but they'd need to quickly get some DLC on board for the route because the Lizzy Line just stops everywhere, so absolutely no variation
     
  6. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    This is another route which seems to get a fresh suggestion every week. Trouble is as stated it's just another electrified start stop one control lever bore fest.

    Also worth considering how the proposal might score on DTG's "LAMP" assessment process, as discussed in this thread:
    Listen To Suggestions | Dovetail Games Forums
     
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  7. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    If Liverpool Street - Shenfield were to happen I think it'll be best to include the GEML. Would be cool to enter the portal coming from Abbey Wood, and could layer the class 465 and 700 at Abbey Wood.
     
  8. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Why?
    The inner core of the line is hugely busy and extending it immediately would leave the line free of traffic
    Better to build these things up and allow assets to be made rather than saying "Wahay, here's 100 miles of lifeless track!"
     
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  9. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Licensing
    London transport have the LO and LL licenses (might need an assist from the far east who actually run the liz line). Other than that I think it's abellio who run the regional services and the conglomerate who has the franchise operate a number of other services across the UK - source

    Anticipation
    We've had loads of liz line suggestions, and via the CC people could make their own GWE update runs. Similarly we get a number of suggestions out to Colchester, Ipswich and Norwich so I think that covers this one

    Mix
    Stratford has all sorts of traffic from regionals, intercities, locals, tube and commuter. Out as far as Shenfield you'll get a mix of all sorts, especially if you set it "pre portal" so you get the older units as well as the new 74x units. Of course freight is commonplace, especially coming off the North London Line at Stratford (platform 10 and 11 I believe)

    Prominence
    It's a major London railway, with almost 2000 movements a day if you believe THIS POST
    I don't think prominence is an issue
     
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  10. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    No I meant like have the GEML with whatever trains with the FLIRT's and Aventra's or include the 360, 90, 321 just so it gives more opportunity and that's only if the section Liverpool Street -Shenfield was including before they started coming through the Startford portal but if the core were to be added no need for any extra line, just have what there is.
     
  11. Projectoverseer

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    Honestly I agree (I know I could have put agree thing but idk why I just wanted to write) it would be nice, maybe just coz I'm a Southeastern kid and like hearing the numbers "465 & 700". :)
     
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  12. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    Haha I have to agree with liking the sound of class 465 and 700, where I currently stay they go past me all day it's beautiful
     
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  13. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    What that means is over 100 miles of track on a complex and demanding timetable with 5 different locos or units...
    I'm trying to be realistic as to what would be achievable on a single DLC release
     

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