Eurostar Class 373 For Sehs

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  1. donjgatlin95

    donjgatlin95 Member

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    SEHS is a phenomenal route, but it is lacking one thing - the Eurostar. I'd love to see the original Eurostar (Class 373) added, in the original livery and the e300 refurb livery. I understand it has been difficult for DTG to obtain the license from Eurostar, but they managed to get the BNSF license! Not only that, prior to obtaining the BNSF license, DTG still made BNSF routes and locomotives, just without the logo. So why can DTG not make it without the logo? SNCF has (or had) Class 373's, patched with a SNCF logo. Perhaps they could work with SNCF to obtain sounds, etc.

    An unbranded Class 373 would be better than no 373 at all.

    The class 374 is a nice, modern version of the Eurostar, but it is too similar to the BR Class 403/406 in my opinion, and it would be nice to have a new experience. IMHO, the 373 has much better sounding traction than the 374.

    Come on, DTG! Everyone knows we need it now with the SEHS expansion!

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  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    For bnsf, that's cuz dtg did have some sort of license. The bnsf logo could only be in the us while outside the us, no logo, only the colors I believe. That was the deal. Eurostar won't give the license at all so dtg can't make anything, so no train, no livery. Dtg aren't going to make unbranded stuff in tsw at all. In tsc, it wasn't really that important to have branded stuff or not since there were several dlc that weren't branded.
     
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  3. uvm0902

    uvm0902 Well-Known Member

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    For me, this route is sorely missing the extension to London Victoria, Dover, Ramsgate and Sherness. I really want to get full commuter train services. When this happens, it will elevate the route to the rank of the best. I really hope so, because they did it in TC, he is incomparable.
     
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  4. Hiro Protagonist

    Hiro Protagonist Well-Known Member

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    If you want to be pedantic, what you're asking for is the Chatham Main Line, not an extension to SEHS. As great as that would be (CML was my first experience in TSC, and probably my favourite overall due to the variety) it would be a massive expansion (the only part of the CML that is currently shared with SEHS is the Rochester-Faversham stretch) on a line which the priority should really placed on the Javelin and HS1 (so the loop-around from Ashford to Faversham, either via Dover Priory or Canterbury West would be a better choice for service completeness).
     
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  5. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If this were to happen then you have a busy Ashford international station with Eurostar Class 373 stop and go there then dash to Ebbsfleet at 185 mph (300 kmh). Class 374 is a 16 carriage version of SFS Stuttgart Ulm DB BR407 and HDU merged form HDBU DB Baureihe 408.
    Hollandstrecke Duisburg Utrecht merged form when combined with HRR Hollandstrecke Duisburg Bochum Utrecht
     
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  6. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Whether or not we ever get Eurostar has already been discussed to death elsewhere and the best that can be said, is unlikely.
     
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  7. Ferrovipathe67

    Ferrovipathe67 Well-Known Member

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    the 374 is a version of br 407 but there are technical differences such as the security systems which are placed in different places and the E 320 from Eurostar can go to Belgium and the Netherlands with the security system of belguim and netherlands
     
  8. tehangrybird345

    tehangrybird345 Well-Known Member

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    Personally I think it would be better as a substitution for its own Eurostar route. But considering the 374s have mostly replaced the 373s, it would probably be better to have the 373s as a dlcs for the Eurostar route, then have the 374 layer in SEHS, and the 373 as a rail tour. But it would be nice to drive into the rest of st Pancras as it feels empty
     
  9. YASUKE

    YASUKE Member

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    373 still do services from Paris to St Pancras
     
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  10. tehangrybird345

    tehangrybird345 Well-Known Member

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    My bad, but to my knowledge most have been phased out
     
  11. YASUKE

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    A small number have been dumped, there’s more 373 that actually do services than 374
     
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  12. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I would prefer the 374
     
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  13. driverwoods#1787

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    you mean a 16 carriage DB BR407 and DB BR408 the Duisburg Utrecht Amsterdam high speed train
     
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