Extensions You Would Like To See Most In Tsw4 Part 2: Usa (i Won't Respond Anymore)

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by Benjamin Lynam, Apr 21, 2024.

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  1. Sherman Hill extension to Denver

    3 vote(s)
    9.7%
  2. Clinchfield Railroad extension to Pikeville & Kingsport

    5 vote(s)
    16.1%
  3. Horseshoe Curve extension to Tyrone

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  4. Sand Patch Grade extension to Somerset

    6 vote(s)
    19.4%
  5. Northeast Corridor extension to Philadelphia

    24 vote(s)
    77.4%
  6. Boston Sprinter extension to Warwick

    12 vote(s)
    38.7%
  7. LIRR extension to Brentwood

    12 vote(s)
    38.7%
  8. Cane Creek Subdivision extension to Moab

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  9. Peninsula Corridor extension to Santa Cruz

    13 vote(s)
    41.9%
  10. Cajon Pass extension to Los Angeles

    5 vote(s)
    16.1%
  11. Antelope Valley Line extension to Tehachapi

    7 vote(s)
    22.6%
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  1. Benjamin Lynam

    Benjamin Lynam Active Member

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    This is USA routes only.
     
  2. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Alot of these extensions make no sense in terms of routing or gameplay......

    Sherman Hill to Denver
    For 1, we still don't even have full track 3 on the original Sherman Hill, plus Union Pacific doesn't really run much traffic on this line. And BNSF's line in the area doesn't make much sense either. You are also talking almost 100 miles which INCLUDES the Downtown Denver area.....

    Clinchfield Railroad to Kingsport
    Given how Clinchfield was abandoned cause it was "unpopular" and "didn't sell well" this isn't gonna happen either.

    Horseshoe Curve to Tyone
    All this really adds is one Amtrak station for a loco we don't even have in game yet. It would also be an odd endpoint for NS trains.....

    Sand Patch Grade to Somerset
    Why? What's the point? The branchline from Rockwood this way goes to Johnstown, which only sees 1 train once every few days. So you want to extend the route for 1 SERVICE?

    NEC to Philadelphia
    I don't see this happening as an extension. If DTG somehow works out a deal with SEPTA, then they'll most likely release a route from Philly to Trenton, but not extend the existing NYC to Trenton Route.

    Boston Sprinter to Warwick
    This seems nonsensical, I don't see anything in Warwick which would add to the Boston to Providence route. At minimum, the route could go down to Wickford Junction, which is the terminus for MBTA's Providence/Stoughton Line on the NEC in this section. However Amtrak gets screwed cause their next station isnt' till Kingston for the regional, and New Haven for the Acela.

    Cane Creek Subdivision to Moab
    Uhh, the route already goes to Moab.....

    If Skyhook really wanted to add onto this route, it would have to be completely rebuild running the mainline from Green River to Grand Junction, also set back to the DRGW era for increased traffic.

    Peninsula Corridor to Santa Cruz
    Another nonsensical idea, there is no way this will ever happen, and there is no REASON for this to happen. For 1, Caltrains current southern terminus is Gilroy, there is plans for them or Amtrak California to extend to Salinas, but thats currently in work.

    2. There is no trains that currently run on the Santa Cruz branchline from Watsonville Junction to Santa Cruz, and the ONLY train out there is the Santa Cruz Big Trees & Pacific from their location in Felton.

    Cajon Pass Extension to LA
    Not really gonna happen either, granted one can say the upcoming Metrolink San Bernadino route counts as this, but there is nothing from Cajon that run on this line to LA (The Southwest Cheif takes a different route)

    If Cajon was to get extended, it needs Union Pacific's trackage from West Colton to the Pass, then BNSF's trackage from Barstow to Daggett, then UP's line from Daggett to Yermo.....

    Antelope Valley Line extension to Tehacahpi
    Again, it makes no sense, Metrolink's terminus is Landcaster, they go no further, Tehachapi is also the middle of Tehachapi Pass, which makes it a nonsensical endpoint for a freight route, not to mention most UP trains take the Palmdale cutoff to Cajon Pass.....

    Please actually do some research before asking some of these suggestions
     
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  3. AtherianKing

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    Not against any, if I had to pick one it would be Trenton to Philadelphia, so I’ll only vote that one.
     
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  4. cActUsjUiCe

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    Boston would need to be extended to New London for an extension to make any sense at all. But that is a distance of 62 miles...so they'd never do it.
     
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  5. Benjamin Lynam

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    Sorry, I don't know very much about American freight routes, since I'm British.:(
     
  6. Benjamin Lynam

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    I would like to see more cities in USA other than New York.
     
  7. Benjamin Lynam

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    Jeez, I agree, DTG will never extend to New London from Boston.
     
  8. Benjamin Lynam

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    I should probably end this voting now, since how little I know about American freight routes.
     
  9. OldVern

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    Oakville is probably the best candidate, if the passenger service licensing could be overcome, extend into Toronto Union and/or maybe out to Niagara Falls.
     
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  10. trlz#8165

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    Extending Sand Patch Rockwood Pa to Conellsville Pa would be better, B ack even in early csx days and before the Yard the was fairly busy also all trains changed crews there the crews ran Connellsville to Cumberland that would make SPG a true end to end run .. Also Connellsville was the base on the west slope for pushers , one potential problem though would be adding the split lines from Confluence Pa to east there a line called the low grade csx still uses both today it is a easier grade for heavy eastbounds ,each line is single track and a few tunnels althogh csx daylighted a couple so double stacks could be run
     
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  11. SubwayRailfanner

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    I personally would love to see an extension for the Harlem Line. Maybe up to Southeast or Croton Harmon. Even better the New Haven Line with the M8
     
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  12. trlz#8165

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    or maybe Confluence Pa to Cumberland could be another idea put both the low grade and the origional lines and start the run there instead of rockwood would have added game play of choosing which line you want to run over and timetable runs how CSX operates them ,they can and do run any train on either line
     
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    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    Be neat if the Clinchfield could be extended to include the Famous Copper Creek viaduct area would love to operate a freight or coal train over a huge steel trestle s in US route or a new route that has a lot of large steel trestles ..
     
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  14. trlz#8165

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    HSC an idea would be Con Pitt JCT to johnstown it short distance but adding the large coal fired Conemugh Generating station at New Florence Pa and nearby coal mine located on track 3 Sang hollow extension would add gameplay NS serves the power plant with coal trains there is no loop track , the power plant is fairly large has 2 huge Cooling towers that would be another cool asset to US route a large power plant to serve
     
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    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    No ideas i have yet for the passenger side of things besides the next route redo need to be a US freight route since things have been very lacking for US freight ..it needs a re vamp and needs to make a big comeback in the near future..
     
  16. driverwoods#1787

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    Send an idea speaking of Boston to Providence that can become Boston to New York City or even better Trenton to Boston for a distance of 285 miles
     
  17. Blacknred81

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    Thats way too long.....
     
  18. amtraknick1993

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    Why even create this thread and poll then if you admittedly have little knowledge of the routes in which you are polling, let alone didn’t do any research prior either. I think you told me in a recent reply that maybe someone like myself or someone else familiar with the US should do the poll but you did it anyway.

    I completely agree with Blacknred81 and their analysis of what routes you suggested. I concur none of them make any sense to extend.
     
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  19. rohr#2587

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    Would love to see a NEC extension to Washington Union Station. Would be especially exciting to maybe even see a MARC or VRE layer. :)
     
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    Why LIRR to Brentwood? Ronkonkoma is not far east of there and is where electric trains terminate. Personally, I would’ve elected for LIRR to Port Washington or Huntington. Port Wash would be cool because it runs in a cut through a big swathe of northeastern Queens, goes over several bridges, and then travels through the woods to the terminal. Huntington is mostly through the woods, but is pretty scenery and has interesting stations (Syosset is at grade, on the other side of a level crossing, Cold Spring Harbor is on the side of a hill, and Huntington is partially above-grade with a big parking garage.)
     
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    Bruh, that is a 200+ mile route. That isnt happening in TSW.....
     
  22. rohr#2587

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    Maybe not an extension. But how about DC to Baltimore that shouldn’t be more than 30 miles.
     
  23. MAX1319

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    Harlem line Would love to see an extension to either southeast or better yet make it twice as busy with an extension to Stanford with the M8 which would then have to be called Harlem/New Have line Stanford
     
  24. driverwoods#1787

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    Ok then so how about Providence to New Haven 108 miles via New London and Old Saybrook. How about 72 mi NYC to New Haven
     
  25. RobertSchulz

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    Apart of the actual subject to New London, As you're one of the creators of Boston-Providence (as stated in your signature), wouldn't you have a word in the discussion for an extension if you would like to do a 62 miles extension? Or is there any othe financial or technical limitation which prevents that?
     
  26. cActUsjUiCe

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    All I could do is propose the idea, same as anyone else. I would commit to do the track and signaling, but that is a LOT of art resources that DTG would have to commit. It's possible, just highly unlikely.
     
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    Actually, not sure why extending the main line, I tend to think more of the 'completion' of the commuter lines towards Boston...so for example the line, that crosses BPE at Readville? and is going to Boston South Station via the yard, I think. Or the line, that branches of at Ruggles? or is it Back Bay? to the west. Not sure, if another 62 miles behind Providence really would add that much to the route, while these additions would somehow boost up the service variety, even though no new loco quite a couple of new services with different routing could be added then...
     
  28. driverwoods#1787

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    Back Bay Worcester Line Forest Hills Needham Line these are after Northeastern University Ruggles.
     

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