Fife Circle Differential Speed Restrictions

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  1. lcyrrjp

    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

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    I just did a run in Free Roam on Fife Circle with a Jubilee and 9 mk1s, and I realised that the HUD was giving me the higher HST differential line speeds, which would not apply to such a train in real life.

    Has anyone ever received the correct (lower) line speeds when running non-HST/DMU stock on Fife Circle, or does the route just give HST line speeds to all trains?

    Thanks.
     
  2. TrainsAndWellbeing

    TrainsAndWellbeing Active Member

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    I’ve noticed this and reported on the Rivet Games forum. They still haven’t fixed the SP 90 for the Class 385 in ScotRail eXpress so I wouldn’t be surprised if Fife Circle never gets fixed. They don’t seem to understand how signals work either. https://forums.rivet-games.com/forum/support-en/18742-fife-circle-line-bug-support-thread

    Every rail tour I’ve driven the HUD shows the enhanced limit whether it’s the layered ones or Free Roam.
     
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    390001 Well-Known Member

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    From what i have saw it just defaults to the HST speeds. It is almost as if the lower speeds are just there for the sake of it.
     
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    Redbus Well-Known Member

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    Does the lower speed limit not apply to freight?
     
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    390001 Well-Known Member

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    There are no freight runs on the route. Just had a look at timetable mode and no freight services. If it was there then yes freight would use the lower speed if it was set to.
     
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    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

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    In real life the lower line speed applies to 'conventional' stock. That is to say, anything which isn't an HST or certain classes of DMU/EMU.

    It appears what's happened is that because Rivet only provide timetables for the 170, and the 170 benefits from the higher line speed, they haven't bothered programming in the lower line speeds at all - they've just set it so that all trains get the higher line speed, regardless of whether they would in real life.

    This is despite the fact that in their advertising blurb for the route they say: "With the power of free roam, explore the route as you desire; Flying Scotsman would be right at home as it traverses the World-renowned Forth Bridge!"

    Well, it might be - except that you've set up the route to give it the wrong line speeds, so...

    In other words - standard Rivet stuff.
     
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