Bug/Issue "formation Does Not Fit In This Scenario"

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  1. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    What does this mean?

    I created a mixed freight formation (BNSF SD70ACE plus 10 freight cars), and i get that message anytime i try to place it in Free Roam. It's not a physical space issue- i've tried it on multiple routes and tracks, and "official formations" spawn just fine.

    Am i missing something?

    Combined with the other big limitations (no multi-select for building formations, wtf???), a feature i was really excited for is looking like a huge dud.
     
  2. Shackamaxon

    Shackamaxon Well-Known Member

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    Same here...

    CSX SD40-2 Yn3B + 11 Boxcars + Caboose on Training Centre, Blank Timetable

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    From what I understand, it's something to do with your system's memory. The game prevents you from loading a formation that might cause an overload.
     
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  3. embedded#4298

    embedded#4298 New Member

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    1 CJP SD40, 1 CSX (I think) GP38, 2 CRR SD40s, 21 and 23 unit consist and neither one worked. First attempt at spawning them after creation led to a crash, all other time would lead to not enough space. 32 gigs of ram should not be running into these issues with such short trains.
     
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  4. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting idea, but it will let me spawn "pre-baked" formations with no problem. Just have to hope for a patch i guess
     
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  5. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Odd how some people are running into this on such short formations.

    Only played around with 1 yesterday, basically the defunct UP Rock train from Sun Valley to Palmdale, was able to build, spawn, and run it no problem.

    Formation was a 2x35x1x32x2
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    Should try some more complex consists to see if any issues occur.
     
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  6. Shackamaxon

    Shackamaxon Well-Known Member

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    Will try with complicated formations as well...
    Gotta say that the screenshots are amazing. o7
     
  7. FreddieTheShepherd

    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    I wanted to spawn 2xAC4400CW + 12x SPG Grain Hoppers + 8x SPG Tank Cars + 3x SPG Coal Gondolas + 2x CJP Bulkheads: At the first time in Training Center, the game crashed. After that, I spawned 2 CSX AC4400CWs, after that the same message "Does not fit in this scenario" The third attempt was at the SPG route itself...all worked fine (but the train didn´t move), then i wanted to test again at the Training Center and again the game crashed - In the error message where 20 lines filled with "TrainSimWorld"
     
  8. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Thanks for the feedback, i'll talk to the dev team and find out what this is - sounds like it's being overzealous or miscalculating something to me!

    Matt.
     
  9. survivalguy#6267

    survivalguy#6267 New Member

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    I'm also getting this trying to spawn certain trains on the east Coast way 313 timetable, only one I remember is the 170 as that's what I wanted to use in the first place (on xbox series s so no formation designer which is what everyone else is saying the problem might be)
     
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  10. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this happens on Xbox Series X as well where it does not allow the 170 to spawn on the 313 ECW timetable :(
     
  11. who

    who Active Member

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    I have the same issue on PS5 at the Training Center. Tried spawning a simple two-car Pacer, nothing large, but it would not let me.

    So I went around and despawned every single train out there, until there were no trains or wagons left. Still would not let me spawn a Pacer :(
     
  12. 紫音 鈴

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    Systematic, but curiously overlooked issues are found on PS5, when accessing the Training Centre directly from the Main Menu.

    Only a marginal selection of trains can be employed and several graphics defects (incorrect drawing distances and excessive stuttering) arise.

    Apparently, the Centre is loaded in a different way (assuming it is not a different entity altogether) if selected from the list under the "Choose a Route" sub-menu.
    Most of the aforementioned issues disappear and it is easy to spawn any normal train.
     
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  13. who

    who Active Member

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    I had forgotten about that option! Going Free Roam via Choose a Route Training Center I can spawn the Pacer just fine. Thanks for reminding me.

    The major difference from a player's perspective is that this way no trains are spawned at the start. That's why earlier, when going straight to Training Center, I despawned every single train hoping to free up resources. Apparently it doesn't work that way.
     
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    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    There is now the same issue with the 170 on East Coastway.
     
  15. A Very Rapid Goat

    A Very Rapid Goat New Member

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    I’ll also add that the 170 won’t spawn on Southeastern High Speed either.
     
  16. steve08

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    Had this issue with the DBpbzfa 767.2
     
  17. disco#7930

    disco#7930 Well-Known Member

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    X Box Series S.
    Put together my first formation.
    2x 47 (BPO) and 25 Wagons (4 different types of freight).
    Dropped it into Preston on a timetable and it crashed the game.
    Then tried three routes on free roam, thinking it may be RAM, all stating formation doesn't fit.
    Elected to go back to formation designer and delete some wagons.
    Every time I try and edit, it crashes the game on the load screen.
     
  18. disco#7930

    disco#7930 Well-Known Member

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    Duplicated the same set but with two freight variations rather then 4. It loads, edits and can be played on timetable mode, no issue.

    Does multiple freight wagon variations, pose ram issues?
     

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