Out Now Frankfurt S-bahn: Out Now!

Unless the console releases throw up any major issues, 99% certain of grabbing this later when it (finally) opens up on Steam. Oh for a preload.

Edit/PS: dtg_jan , can someone create the thread in the Feedback Forum now the game is live. Already one comment popped up in GD about trophies which ought to be in the dedicates thread.

 

Just waiting a day or two now for the Game Pass discount to go live...

 

You should Wait for the Full Timetable and Memory issues fixed or for a Sale with 30-50% off

 

With a reduced timetable for us console players, it's a no from me.

 

When full timetable is avaiable on consoles i will have the green light to buy this

 

Absolutely agree with you all.

But what about the reduced timetable?

 

Unfortunately, for me as a console gamer it's also a no, thank you.

 

...If that full timetable ever comes for consoles.

Honestly...
Unless they are able to pull a miracle on memory management this isn't going to happen. So many struggles already with blurry textures on other Routes.
I see it now on the new timetable for Köln - Aachen they accidentally released on Xbox.
It's not really usable...always blurry textures after 5 - 10 min driving ..and half of the time it crashes later on. ( Gen 9 Xbox Series X )

 

Please update the timetable Version for consoles.. its sadly waay to empty the way it is and the possible options seem quite.. frustrating. For the price it has its a big loss of money in my opinion. the unique scenery and poi's are very breathtaking its a great dlc as it is its no hate i just think this little tweak could change much.
I know u reduced it due to performance issues from the consoles so maybe add just a little more and try to put in as many as you can i think i and many others would thank you big time.
Greetings

 

Just bought it on PS5 and I'm really happy, performance is really good and its fun to run with S Bahn, ICE and RE services

 

Console player here, also saying no to this release.

 

I saw it on BAs stream for the Xbox series X, The performance is good and no blurry textures at all.

If your don't mind the reduced timetable, or people simply don't know about it, it's seems to be a good experience for what you get.

Once you are aware of what you are missing out, compared to the full, enchanted, special...whatever wording timetable on PC builds, the opinion may differ.

The thing is....
A lot of console players actually don't read or care about forums, discords, watching YouTube. They just buy and play the game " as advertised " and are happy with it. For those it's a good DLC with an appropriate performance and experience.

 

Might be worth watching preview stream. There's been significant detail throughout release process about this.

Choice a - reduced timetable
Choice b - game crashing

Consoles don't have the horsepower

 

Wiesbaden VIA Flughafen and Mainz-Kastel? I guess typo ?

 

Exactly. German routes have always been the best regarding consistency since the very start of TSW because of their busy timetables and large stations with lots of loco variation and service types - but Frankfurt S-Bahn on console is just so disappointing because it's none of this and is a very large step backwards - why choose to have such a route which is so bias towards PC; even if this is just a one-off, it still leaves a bad impression from many console players. TSW wouldn't even be a thing without console, which also happens to be the significant portion of the playerbase...

 

It's their wording for that has annoyed me as well, it's not a "Standard Timetable" for console users, it's a reduced Timetable.

That is shown by the wording for the PC Timetable as "Full timetable".

Just tell it how it is DTG.
Oh and Console users should absolutely have this reduced in price to reflect the reduced timetable.

 

Yeah, they just had to get yet another dig in at console players, to what, make themselves feel better?

It's hard to reconcile that snarky attitude in the wording with what seemed to be an honest attempt at engaging the console playerbase since the initial ugliness of the reveal of the reduced timetable.

Does one hand at DTG not know what the other is doing? Would explain a lot tbh...

 

Yes, I agree. Using the word " standard " doesn't quite convey what's being offered if you compare it to " ful! ", unless you read the entire article.

As a PC player, I'm happy to pay for the complete timetable, but I can understand if console players want to pass, at least until it's fixed. It's not a great look.

 

Remember the days when the different generations, or console vs PC versions of a game, like the 8-bit vs 16-bit console generation, or early 32-bit systems' console ports of big PC games, were developed by different teams, as completely independent productions which were scaled to the power of the different machines?

I wonder if some people would prefer getting something put together by the TSW VR team directly for lower power systems as "TSW7" for console, or if they prefer a cut-down version of the full PC TSW experience...

 

"Reduced" is the only accurate word though, most routes come with a full accurate timetable as standard, anything less than that is reduced.

 

Found a funny bug; the planes fly under Frankfurt Airport

 

Ah, that long wait until Steam releases.

 

Just think - it could be worse, you could be experiencing the DTG side of that launch day time gap, experiencing the slowly dawning horror from the response to the console versions of whichever expansion you just dropped that day, of just how many serious bugs made it into the build you pushed.

 

Is the Full timetable included in the XBOX Store PC release, or are those of us who started playing on game pass getting the reduced timetable only even on PC?

Your wording makes it look like we've been conned, or you would've just said that PC gets the full timetable.

 

I'm a customer since TSW2 and bought every TSW since.
In many ways this route - would - be an instant buy for me and I was VERY much looking forward to it.
BUT being on PS5 (Pro) I sadly have to skip this route.
Why?
I have almost all German DLCs, sometimes not even for driving a loco DLC, but for having LOTS of variety on my routes.
Thanks to all DLCs I own, this makes many routes SO MUCH more fun. Seeing all the different trains in a station like Dresden or Frankfurt is what make the routes come to life!
Preview stream showed that console version is missing all of the rolling stock layers. It looked sad and empty and all of the money I spent to have the most variety and diversity in trains / locos possible on any given route is GONE on this route with taking (nearly) ALL layers away from console players.

And NO, I am not accepting the excuses of consoles not being able to handle this.
It is a VERY old story of DTG being really lazy / poor at optimizing their code.
Every iteration of TSW is plagued by the same bugs (or new ones) and many get not only never solved, but simply transferred to the next iteration of TSW.
You really NEED to optimize your code and thus performance!
It has gone on for too long now and more and more problems arise from this!
And now console players should pay the price? NO!

So, although I love the route and would really instantly buy it, I CANNOT accept the attitude anymore.
It is clear the priority is making regular DLCs and thus never having enough time / resources to FINALLY fix the many issues of TSW.
I am certain the TSW6 is around the corner and - of course - it will not fix any of the underlying general issues of the game.
It will just be more yet again of the same.
Rinse and repeat.
This is also the reason I have barely written anything here. It seems in vain as this is a company decision that will only change, when it hurts financially.
So until I see a substantial change from DTG, I also won't buy any soon to be announced TSW6.

 

I am definitely buying this O ... sth fun to do before today's start of NBA Conference Finals

 

I just bought the addon on ps5. I instantly regret it. I drove an ice service and it was lifeless. I can count on one hand how many train i saw during the jorney. I nearly have all the addons and i cant use it. Even if i had the full timetable i couldnt use one of my favourite loco the expert 101. My other favourite loco is the vectron. Other than that i use pzb. I had a tonn of emergency brake for no reason. And sifa isnt working. I have to turn it on and off to work. I regret buying this addon...

 

And what's to say they won't do the same trick in the future.

Let's say for example, they do London Waterloo-Southampton. It's an intensive route with trains by the hundreds going up and down plus freight trains, other TOCs etc etc.

What if DTG decide that it's too hard to do a full timetable for Console users so PC will get a full timetable of 1000 services and Console users get 500 but both are charged £30 for it.

 

I just imagine all the super huge game running on my console... Weird. Also not a reason to represent the lesser offer to an according price of course, just keep defending

 

The problem isnt just the horse Power its bad developing and not enough experience in releasing content for consoles. Look at triple a game that have graph and performance this game couldn't even dream of so.. they just need to get to work and fix all the broken stuff like lags when stopping.

 

Oh, the reduced timetable is now a standard one. Nice try, but won't catch me. I pay full price, I want full experience. If that's not delivered, it will stay a NO, no matter what you call it. And that's very disappointing, was really hyped for that route with all that has been promised.

 

Millionth post with the same content.
What a drag!

 

"Standard" hahahahahahahahah

 

I respect console users who buy this route at full price, of course, everyone can do what they want with their money.
But in my opinion this is a mistake, I think DTG should be given a wake up call and a message loud and clear that we will not accept being treated as second class gamers.

 

for those who have this DLC already - is BR 143 version for this route fixed? cos 143 and 112 (some still report also 114) had e-brake issues

 

why are there no achievements for this route

 

They have, if the developer can use it right. It's like with the performance of a racecar on the racetrack. Even with a underpowered car the better driver can win the race.

 

Same on the PC side of the wall.

 

Reduced timetable => no buy!

 

My boss just said times were bad so he had to "normalize" my salary. Thankfully he did not "reduce" it.

 

Your boss should be the role model.

 

The backlash isn't over the type of route/network, when done well these network releases can be good routes (The updated Cathcart route being a fine example).

The backlash is from console players because they're a bit peeved about paying the same price as PC players when the PC version has a much busier timetable.

I've not tried it out yet but will be adding my thoughts later once I've had a chance.

 

Reduce the cost for console players please, after all we are approx. 400 services short!

 

For me, as a console gamer, it's understandable that only Gen 9 will be supported from now on. At some point, the beard will wear off.

But then charging full price for a reduced schedule isn't okay! Or should I buy a PS5 Pro separately? Will it run smoothly on that?

It would have been fairer to give the consoles both schedules, albeit with the risk of errors and crashes. This solution has been tried before.

If this continues with the upcoming DLC, I won't make any more one-day purchases and will wait for the PS6. Maybe things will run a little better then...

 

Series X player here.

No thanks, not buying it.

 

so, initial thoughts, having done a run with 430 on an S9 service, 12cars and a BR101 in sandwich formation... first, the 430, really neat EMU, digging the more modern design, quite nimble and all, caught some rolling resistance weirdness where it seemed to even slow a bit down on idle on a 0.6% descent, but otherwise nice machine, the frequency of stops just right not to be annoying... loved the frequent speed and track changes, also 12cars is magnificent on camera 8 fly-bys

second, BR101 would be nice if it came already with ZDS BR120 set up so I wouldnt have to teleport between cabs, but well, it was really cool run, even with a brief LZB section where I managed to get up to 200 kph shortly before having to slow down... and those who follow my comments know I love me some LZB/AFB exit procedure challenge, so I got it ... the only gripe with this was that the whole run ended too soon, and the bug introduced with new Koln Aachen timetable (aka getting kinda half the points when under LZB) has also found its way in here

havent tried 143 yet, but I will since I am curious if the e-braking is in playable state

so far worth the money... oh, as for performance, well, my machine is almost 8yrs old, i7-6700K and GeForce 1080 GTX 8GB, which would already struggle with Frankfurt Fulda (the Frankfurt Hbf to Sud section especially) managed kinda well I guess, not much worse than FTF... but it wasnt sth I wasnt prepared to deal with, and once I got outside the main tangle of tracks, it got better... I mean, still not perfect FPS, but it wasnt anything that would make me quit the run... I actually thought the performance was pretty good considering my old PC

of course I will do more runs on other S-Bahn lines, but so far this product is approved (also loving bridges, overpasses etc. and I got tons of it here)