Genuine Commuter Routes For London

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  1. bentsw

    bentsw New Member

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    TSW really has so far struggled with creating routes that have the capacity for uses to run real, full timetabled services.

    For eg. on London Commuter, the only FULL realistic timetabled service is the trains to Reigate. Otherwise the rest are just half completed services. Same thing with the class 465 on SEHS.

    So, I'm here to suggest a few "networks" that are filled with actual services that are completed in full. Similar to the Glasgow Suburban, but even better.

    South London Commuter

    This will by far be the most simple as London Victoria has already been created with the London- Brighton Route. It will also be simple as Southerns metro routes are now fully run by Class 377's. We would just need to see the class 377/6 be recreated in 5 and 10 car formations.

    The route will see these services be allowed to run in full by players:

    LV- Dorking, Epsom Downs, Epsom, Sutton, West Croydon and Norwood Junction.
    Services all take 45mins to 1hr

    The new track required would be :
    Balham - Norwood Junction via Gypsy Hill
    NorwoodJunction/Selhurst- Sutton via West Croydon
    Streatham Junction- Sutton via Mitcham
    Sutton- Dorking and Epsom Downs

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    If DTG want to make more cash, easily add the Southern 455 and the Crystal Palace- Beckenham Junction section and base the game when 455's ran Victoria- Beckenham services.

    This would provide hours of gameplay as I said there are 6 genuine timetabled end to end services that all take roughly 45-1hr


    South West London Network

    Edit Note: After writing this up, I conclude it would have to be a little more expensive than the usual route. Maybe $60-70 AUD (please take note of currency code)

    This particular and extremely busy commuter network has also loads of potential for success due to how much content there would be for users.

    This network would include:


    Waterloo - Hounslow Loop Line, Shepperton, Kingston Loop Line, Shepperton via Richmond and Hampton Court, Woking

    "Half Services"
    Waterloo - Windsor and Eton and Reading (both ending at Twickenham)
    Waterloo - Basingstoke, Southampton, Portsmouth, Guildford, Haselmere etc all ending at Woking

    For more EMU add ons, I'm really willing to pay a lot of money for these routes if the add ons are of a decent quality. South West London realistically would need:

    Class 444 (mostly for AI)
    Class 450 (Hounslow Loop Line playable, Mainline AI, Windsor and Eton AI etc
    Class 455 (All inner suburban routes)
    Class 707 (Shepperton)

    Map:
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    This route also has future expansion capacity. This includes Twickenham- Weybridge for Weybridge services and from Raynes Park to Chessington South and Dorking, using the "existing" line from my South London Network from Epsom-Dorking.


    Southeastern Inner Suburban Network.

    PLEASE NOTE: DTG are including Dartford-Gravesend in the upcoming extension of SEHS

    This action packed Network includes the loop lines served by trains out of Cannon Street that run in both directions around multiple loops via Abbey Wood, Bexleyheath and Sidcup. Also terminating services run to Dartford and Gravesend, as well as occasionally Slade Green and Crayford. The route will also venture down to Grove Park and Bromley north for the shuttle branch. Oh, and Thameslink

    Services:
    Charing Cross to Gravesend via Sidcup, Dartford via Bexleyheath, Dartford via Blackheath and Abbey Wood, Crayford.

    Cannon Street loop via Sidcup and Abbey Wood (and reverse direction), loop via Bexleyheath and Abbey Wood (and reverse direction)

    Blackfriars to Rainham as far as Gravesend.

    Potential to make it more expensive: Add the Hayes Line OR go all the way to Orpington (actually would be an awesome idea but more $$$

    Track needed: Basically all of it, apart from Dartford-Gravesend.
    It would include both Cannon Street and Charing Cross as well as the new London Bridge, different to the London Bridge we got on TS Classic in 2015 before it was revamped. Also would have to Include Blackfriars

    EMU's
    We already have the 375 which is crucial to AI on this route
    We also have the 465, which is the greatest DLC DTG have released, and these lines would unlock its potential

    Also included EMU's would need to be:
    Class 700 Thameslink
    707 City Beam
    Class 376

    Again, a lot of work would need to be put in and that would reflect on the price.

    However, these routes set up DTG to one day release Waterloo - Southampton and Portsmouth, and the Southeastern Mainline.

    Map

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    Cheers for reading

    BenTSW
     

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  2. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    These sort of services have relied on updates to the dispatcher (needed to do the full timetable for Bakerloo)
    DTG say they have no completed 3 of their 4 stages for this, and abandoned 4 as it was not required for what they wanted to do (I believe that bit was to allow trains to "pick a platform or bay" rather than only having a timetabled platform or bay...)

    I've asked for the NKL for a while, but I believe it would be better (given we have a load of 3rd rail content) to do something like Birmingham or Manchester, Glasgow or the Welsh Valleys. Somewhere that has metro style content, but uses sprinters or something else reusable outside of the sphere of London.
     

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