Glasgow Cathcart Circle Preview Stream #2 - Your Questions And Suggestions!

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  1. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    There are pre orders for xbox games if a company wants to do one. TSW seems to be a exception to that for a odd reason
     
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  2. ARuscoe

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    And a video guide, even if it's similar to the AP one which shows what it can do, even if you then have to dig in the manual to find out the finer details

    Let's face it, some people like clicking the switch on the in cab fan even though it has no impact on how the train actually operates in game
     
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  3. trainsimplayer

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    Noticeably they only tend to do that with big titles.
    TSW does not fall into that category, sadly.
     
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  4. derekdrummond

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    Can you show the 314 running Glasgow central to shelds depot?
     
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  5. tallboy7648

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    I am afraid that is simply not true. Bus sim 21 is a relatively small title that will be up for pre order. On the road truck simulator is a game that was up for pre order in January as well and that's from a small company
     
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  6. trainsimplayer

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    Hence "tend to" not always do they only do big titles, and the majority of pre-orders are for bigger titles. As for sales Im presuming there is a process.
     
  7. kpowens21

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    Is there any plans to consider the Class 380 as a future DLC for Cathcart Circle, as the train has been on the line alongside Class 314s since around 2011. Would also make the station have slightly more variety.
     
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    could you add Ayr to Glasgow route that would be great
     
  9. Mkdog45

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    For the person who was wondering about 6 car formations. I had a thought that it may not be an optimisation issue but a coupling issue. The Cathcart circle is a self contained route and 6 cars only happen during peak times. This means that the coupling and uncoupling would have to happen in game. The AI may have trouble knowing about coupling. For example if your late the one you are coupling to may not know whether to go or not on time. This doesn’t affect freight coupling because wagons can move on their own. The last time I think we had passenger coupling is one service on ECW. But just a thought.
     
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  10. sophieclarke1983

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    I’ve got a question in the first look at Cathcart circle Matt P demonstrates the guard key function for the right hand door panel looking back at replay of stream I noticed a guards panel for the left sided doors is this functional the same as the right side ?
     
  11. woody

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    Please let this stream be from console, as JD said it would be last week. Thank you.
     
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  12. synthetic.angel

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    It is an interesting idea - they might have an issue with coupling... if so, I am unaware of it.

    I think however (and this is really just a guess).... that it is not a coincidence that the Class 314 for ECW... sorry, I mean the Class 313 for ECW.... no... the 314... no, um 313... yeah - the 313 for ECW.... you know, that very very similar EMU for ECW that we have seen demonstrated as a Class 314..., but in, um... blue...... has gone straight back into "production" on the "Roadmap".... just after the Class 314 got a run on Cathcart... and maybe... um ... it has been run on ECW as well.... and maybe on ECW it causes a great deal of stutter... like we saw in Friday's stream for Cathcart Circle

    Maybe the Class 314 will appear smoother in tonight's stream. Maybe we will be told that six-cars will make it into the release, after all, for those peak hour services. We shall all find out, very soon....!
     
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  13. ARuscoe

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    And if they ran 6 car IRL, yay!
    If they didn't... shouldn't be in the game
    If they are, get coupling working pls
     
  14. sophieclarke1983

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    What you have to remember is last weeks stream was Just a Dev build tonight’s stream is the one to go by
     
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  15. trainsimplayer

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    I have never seen a 6 car unit except from Mount Florida specials (sometimes) and a peak service rarely.
     
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  16. synthetic.angel

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    The best test is to buy it and play ot on whatever system you have. Second best is to wait until about 2.00am in Australia/Japan on 10th June and check the first feedback that comes in (happily in the very early afternoon in the UK). Third best is tonight's stream....

    However - what we do know already is that a lot of the stuff that Matt "did not promise" in Friday's stream has actually gone into the shipping build, which will make a lot of people (justifiably) very happy - I complete trust Matt on this - he doesn't usually (or ever....?) write stuff down unless it is in the box, and he knows it is in the box.

    They have also added (or will be adding) some other changes in CCL which I didn't think were that easy to do - such as not linking red platform end signals to the script for door closing* - and this for me is a massive upgrade for immersion (I was actually right on the verge of requesting this as a core change, if necessary.... but they are implementing it into CCL anyway). This will change the driving interaction in a very positive way.

    So - there's a lot of good already coming, and we may yet be surprised to find more. ;-)

    Oh shiver me timbers.......... I have gone back into positive hyping mode again..... ;-O

    (I have no idea what the framerate/performance will be like - we will have to wait and see, or indeed if six-cars will feature in services.... other than in one scenario module.... and to be fair, Matt did strongly indicate that they will take a long time to come, if they come at all).

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    NB: *Ooooh....., I must remember to ask TrainSim-Adam to look at this for Peninsular Corridor, as this is possibly the only gripe that I have about that route (but it is a big one, for me).
     
  17. Waterflaps

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    So, on the topic of six cars - I'm just after re-watching the stream and I think I've found a bit worth mentioning, not sure if I'm missing something though but it seems pretty clear cut - At 36:40, Matt states:

    "I don't think there's any six car services, there are plenty of six car scenarios though."

    Hype's on.

    EDIT: Still in the process of watching, 38:33 goes on to talk about no six car - The mind fairly boggles.
     
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  18. cloudyskies21

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    Just an interesting observation, but with all this talk of six-car 314s on the route, as anyone else noticed that the artwork promoting Cathcart has at least two six-car formations in view? Obviously, it doesn't mean anything but, as mentioned above, quite interesting as six-car formations don't feature in normal timetable mode.
     
  19. tubefan1973

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    can we have a full demo of all Gaurd Panel switches please
     
  20. Class158Perkinsguy

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    Just a silent run between two stations, to hear them beautiful Armstrong power..ahem...class 314 motors, would be smashing :)
     
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    Does the GSMR Work? and could this model of the 314 be imported into TS2021?
     
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  23. davidjamesgoodfellow

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    Will there be voice announcements onboard the trains and why is the monitor in front and above you not working?
     
  24. trainsimplayer

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    There won't be voice announcements as they haven't been developed.
    As for the screens one sets the PIS and I believe the other is something that again hasn't been developed for TSW.
     
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  25. opgames

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    Well technically trains do terminate there the announcement at Glasgow Central says so, but I think that's just because rail opperators don't like announcing Glasgow Central at Glasgow Central
     
  26. opgames

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    Suggestion: I would like to see more trains being added to the Cathcart Circle. These trains include:
    The class 318 (Both liveries)
    The class 380/0
    The class 380/1
    and
    The class 320/3
    or just the class 303 and class 311 without any of those other trains listed above
     
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  27. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Trains do not terminate at Cathcart. They continue to Glasgow Central.
    The announcers tend to say that just to indicate it is a Circle service. The display boards usually say Cathcart Circle and the services terminate at Glasgow.
     
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  28. ARuscoe

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    The same is true on the SEHS in real life, the services say they terminate at Ramsgate when most of those "keep going" round the loop so if you look them up on RTT or even network rail those trains are St Pancras to St Pancras
     
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  29. redshed66

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    Would love to see an engineering scenario to control an engineering train through possession. Would be neat
     
  30. londonmidland

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    We haven’t got any suitable engineers wagons in TSW for that.
     
  31. cloudyskies21

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    After watching both preview streams, I think the route looks great but I'm still anxious on how good the scenario planner will be on this route i.e. Glasgow platforms etc. Personally, for me it would bring a whole new experience to the route alongside service mode. Nonetheless, very excited!
     
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  32. redshed66

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    The 66 in timetable mode already runs an engineering train from Newton to Central with jnas, couldn’t we just use these?
     
  33. londonmidland

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    If we’re talking about authenticity, then the JNA wagons are far from suitable for engineers trains.
     
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  34. redshed66

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    You’ve got a point haha, we need more wagons for sure.
     
  35. dedh98mosqueto

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    Why was this route chosen. Please don't say because of popularity.
     
  36. DB628

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    No update today?
     
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  37. trainsimplayer

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    Because it was a nice small commuter route which opened the gateway to Scotland.
    Plus the Circle Lines are nice.
     
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  38. ehz0689

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    Did they mention what the top speed of the route is?
     
  39. trainsimplayer

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    I think it's around 40-50
     
  40. DB628

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    How we can reach 70 mph then for the Trophy?
     
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    It would be nice if the class 43s from GWE were reskinned to be able to show up in Glasgow Central. Mat was talking about more trains being created in the future then added to the route, so why not use old trains with new skins? It would also mean another skin for GWE owners to use in service mode which would be cool. (before someone replies and says that all the 43s were retired in 2018, this route is set before then)
     
  42. londonmidland

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    epica#3930 ScotRail HSTs never went Glasgow Central. They go to Glasgow Queen Street. The only HSTs you get at Glasgow Central is the occasional Cross Country one.
     
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  43. trainsimplayer

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    Ok, first, the Inter7City trains don't run to Central, as the lines are fully electric.
    Secondly, you'd get nothing in Service mode, for the reason above.
     
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  44. trainsimplayer

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    Speeding, after all the Trophy/Achievement isn't for the route it's for the train.
     
  45. trainsimplayer

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    *it's 55 on one of the branches
     
  46. Scotrail156467

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    It's around 30 to 40mph
     
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  47. ehz0689

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    There's areas where you can hit 70
     
  48. ILied

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    A pink train would be nice to see if there’s no issue showing it on stream!
     
  49. redshed66

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    Can I just ask why they’ve missed the second exit at pollokshaws east station?
     
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  50. Scotrail156467

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    Was thinking the same
     
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