A Turbulent Shift Can anyone let me know on arriving at Willesden Junction bay platform how do you then proceed to the Maintenance depot. The starting signal is red and I have received permission to pass the signal by pressing Tab. I then proceed only to get told I’ve passed signal at danger. It’s a shame after a long difficult journey not loosing points only to reach this problem. Any help would be good cheers Stuart
Maybe it's a scenario where you have to reverse / change cabs. You'd then need to press Ctrl+Tab to get clearance as you might be travelling in the opposite direction. Check the map to see if your path is set correctly. Sometimes another train has priority.
thank you for the reply when I pressed tab. The message says permission has been granted to pass signal at danger. stuart
Yes but as torfmeister has indicated that may just be giving you clearance for a signal behind you, try the scenario again but this time press Ctrl+Tab together and that may well apply to the signal you are facing, you may see a white "calling on" signal display beneath or beside the red, you can then proceed. TS logic is pretty good when all's said and done but there are a few quirks you need to learn and be aware of, the fact that the Tab mechanism doesn't reset forward facing functionality when you change cab end or even when starting a scenario with the rear most cab being one of those said quirks.
Figure out what end of the cab you started the scenario in. If you are now in the other cab at the back, or connected to and moved to such a cab, or even left the original cab behind for whatever reason and are now facing in the opposite direction, then Shift-TAB would be necessary to clear the forward signal and TAB would be the signal behind you. Also bring up the F1 task list and look at the buttons on the right. The phone buttons are your call for signal requests. If the top one lights, you're asking for the signal moving in your original direction of travel at scenario launch and you need to face that way (say you start facing Stratford but now you're facing away from Stratford, the top button refers to direction heading to Stratford). The bottom one therefore is the other direction. I also find sometimes I have to use these buttons if a TAB command doesn't work.
This does not always work. It seems to depend on the signal script. I found signals where I had to press Tab key although the F1 buttons weren't lit.
Hmm. The buttons depend on your positioning. TAB can be used anytime within the relevant block. Issue is that sometimes one will work for the request while the other doesn't. On a PDL scenario, I once knew I would be requesting to pass a red to couple to cars at my next stop, but the game just would not let me do it until the message saying "Go ahead and do it" came up. So I had to stop at the damn signal instead of making the request and going past at my pace. Guess who was late?
That must be Chop and Change... There is this short destination marker just in front of the signal at Havant, which is connected to a Go Via Instruction, and you can press Tab only as soon as that instruction is complete and before you reach the signal, a window of two seconds. I failed on the first run... I remember a signal on Karlsruhe-Strasbourg Offenburg yard that was at danger, didn't show on the F1 hud but I could bypass it by pressing tab. So don't always rely on the hud.
Good figuring. Yeah, I was coming up at 5 MPH or whatever it was (the video published Tuesday, you can see my run) and I remember pushing TAB over and over only to be told "You can now press TAB". "Uh, I have been!" LOL I don't think I actually had to stop, but I was close to doing so.
This is scenario 05 in the Goblin lines sim. I am a little late to the party on this one, but I suffered the same problem as "firstbusman" and found the answer in this posting. Change ends and press "ctrl+tab" together. This works fine. Press "F1" and you have to click on the reverse telephone. This works too. However, in scenario 06 "The Goblins Going Blind" this did not apply. I changed ends and simply pressed "Tab" and this worked. My belated advice would be to "save" the game on arrival at Willesden and if you press the wrong selection you can resume at Willesden rather than having to do the whole scenario over again.
The easy way to look at it is as follows: If you start out in a cab, that is the front of your train. If you have to change ends at any point, you are effectively driving the back of the train in the other direction (or reversing, whatever) and you have to assume the TAB cojntrols are reversed. One good example is a scenario on the original PDL that starts you pulling into Woking heading towards London, then you change ends and drive a service in the direction of Portsmouth. I think it's Chop and Change, and you actually end after another cab change at Fratton yard. While driving towards Portsmouth, you actually would use CTRL-TAB for any signal requests (if any) and TAB for signal checks behind you (which should not be necessary). That said, if you are directed to reverse and these controls don't work, then those temporary cab changes would be a possible fix. However, those controls should always work no matter which cab you are in as they should always check the correct direction. If they don't, I don't know why.
