Train Sim World 4 Great Western Express: Penzance And Paignton - Exeter St Davids

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  1. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    A lot of people complain about modern routes only appearing in Scotland or Southern England myself included but this route has a lot of potential not just because of its beauty but also because lots of trains that can be used from other DLC's such as The class 150, 158, 166 and HST.
    A good chunk of this route has already been created by Rivet Games in the West Cornwall Local route and although many people complain about route modernisation I think this is a route people would be happy to see as WCL had a poor choice of Era.
    STATIONS:
    The stations over these 98 miles of track include Penzance, St Erth, Hayle, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Par, Lostwithiel, Bodmin Parkway, Liskeard, Menheniot, St Germans, Saltash, St Budeaux Ferry Road, Keyham, Dockyard, Devonport, Plymouth, Ivybridge, Totnes, Newton Abbot, Teignmouth, Dawlish, Dawlish Warren, Starcross, Exeter St Thomas and Exeter St Davids. I will also include the branch to Paignton which includes Paignton, Torquay, Torre and then it joins up with the mainline at Newton Abbot. This branch adds an extra 7 miles to the route bringing us up to a total of 105 miles, this is a lot I know but we do often get routes of similar lengths as TSW base routes.
    ROLLING STOCK:
    Class 150/2: (At Starcross)

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    Rivet have already made this train however it will need a new PIS because the RG version had a roller blind, the toilets would also need changing so that they are Disability friendly and lastly some new sounds because the ones we have currently are so bad they are unrecognisable so please use AP sounds with this and update the WCL version to have the same sounds.
    Class 158:
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    As I'm sure you all know Skyhook are in the process of making their class 158 for the Midland Mainline which is expected to release this week (or next I can't remember) from my knowledge all that has to be done for this are likely to be cab changes and a new interior PIS and from the exterior you can see that the front of the train is different around the coupler (its yellow on GWR 158s and it has a triangular shape on top of the usual one you see on other 158s I'm not sure why this is though) Something interesting about these particular 158s is that another driving coach goes at the front to create a 3 car set (because GWR have none) another operator that does this is northern but with the 150 (they just stick a 150/2 coach in the middle of a 150/1).
    Class 166: (At Exeter St Davids)
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    This comes from DTG's Great Western Express and as far as I know no changes are required.
    Class 43 HST: (At Dawlish)
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    This HST would also come from Great Western Express with some changes these trains now have wider sliding doors to make them disability friendly and also have 4 coaches compared to the previous 8. This could also be put into a Cross Country livery with the same sliding doors but with 7 coaches instead of 4 for even more services however Cross Country are supposed to be tight with licensing so this may not happen.
    Class 800 IEP: (At Exeter St Thomas)
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    This is probably the most famous train in the UK simply because these and their identical twins are all over the place this would be the only new train to feature on this route unless DTG got the Cross Country License in which case would give us a 220 and 221. The class 800 was built by Hitachi between 2014 and 2018 for LNER and GWR and entered service with GWR on the 16th of October 2017 (6 years ago! well 5 and a bit but it feels like yesterday that these entered service) GWR operate both 5 car units and 9 car units for their Intercity services from Paddington-Cardiff, Swansea, Penzance, Hereford, Cheltenham Spa, Gloucester e.t.c. The Class 800 has a top speed of 125mph on Over Head Line Electrification (OHLE) and 100 mph on Diesel Mode this makes it nor a DMU or an EMU (diesel and electric multiple units respectively) but a BMU or Bi mode multiple unit.
    I would also like to see it in these liveries.
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    Class 220 and 221:
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    As this probably won't feature in the route due to the trend of only one new train per route and the difficulty getting licensing for Cross Country I will just post this link to my Cross Country suggestion. Train Sim World 3 - Cross Country Trains Addon | Dovetail Games Forums (if we do get Cross Country licensing it will probably be a HST re-skin which I have no problem with)
    CONCLUSION:
    Another GWR route is something that I see requested frequently and I think this would be perfect with some relatively high speeds, many trains to see and play with and some lovely seaside scenery at places like Dawlish and Starcross which provide more opportunities to explore with 'super detailing' which DTG will be using on Peak Forest around the famous Monsal Dale Viaduct.
     
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  2. sophieclarke1983

    sophieclarke1983 Well-Known Member

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    Very nice given the length this is one that definitely justifys £:30 I’d buy it as awesome route and rolling stock
     
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  3. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    yes thats what I aim to do with every suggestion
     
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  4. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    This is an absolutely brilliant route and area of the country which I would love to see in TSW. It would be a lovely route done in the modern era although I would prefer it done in the 70s up to the mid 80s with hoovers, peaks and even valenta HSTs if done at the later end of the scale. Also because of the existing WCL and the very intense scenery I think it is more likely to go to Paignton and Plymouth rather than Penzance.
     
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  5. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    yeah thats why I said St Austell would make sense to start at, I never knew 45s ran down here. I would also maybe like to see this route with Intercity Swallow HSTs whenever that was because I think they would suit this however the reason I chose this Era is because of how much layer potential it has and it would be nice to finally see and 800 as they have been highly requested for a long time now.
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry must have missed the St Austell bit but I would prefer it end at the much more logical point of Plymouth then the few extra miles to St Austell.
    Yes the 45 (and I think now and then 46s) ran down here on the NE/SW cross country services up to the mid-late 80s.
    I too would like to see an IEP in game but I would just prefer this route in the 80s. An IEP would be better for an ECML or south welsh route or even (dare I say it) a new route out of Paddington.
     
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    The South Devon Main Line (Exeter to Plymouth) with the Paignton branch would be an ideal sized route. Integrating WCL would be better as part of an updated and extended WCL containing the full Cornish Main Line (Plymouth to Penzance). I don't mind which era, especially now we have most of the stock to populate it from the 1970's onwards, although some GWR steam locos would be a welcome addition.
     
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    This would make the rivet WCL the whole CML
     
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  9. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    isn't that the Chiltern Mainline
     
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    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    would like the South Wales Mainline from, Swansea - Bristol.
     
  11. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean?
     
  12. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Scotland only has 1 modern route. Cathcart circle has an outdated train with a modern livery. Even then, the one modern route Scotland gets isn't very good and is made by rivet. We are getting a route between Peterborough and Doncaster wich is modern. *Ahem* ecml. But yes, I do get your point. :)
     
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  13. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    but not in the north in the midlands
     
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  14. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    you said an IEP would be good in a South Wales route
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I see what you mean now, but yes, that would be a good route though we have got an IEP with ECML.
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    IEP? Do you lot mean IET or am I going crazy? XD
     
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    IEP stands for Intercity Express Program and was the acronym used by the DfT for the Government funded ones (in the simplest way possible) which includes the class 800s and 801s.
    IET stands for Intercity Express Train and that is what GWR brand their class 800s and 802s as, like we call our 800s and 801s Azumas and HT call their 802s Paragons.
     
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    Oooohhh. Ok. That makes sense..
     
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  19. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    yeah but on this route you'd be running diesel mode 800 and a 175 would be great
     
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    Yes you would.
     
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