Route Greater Anglia London Liverpool Street - Ipswich (geml)

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  1. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    In this suggestion I'm going to suggest the Great Eastern Mainline running from London Liverpool Street to Ipswich. The GEML is a very popular suggestion and is a big part of Greater Anglia's network. If the GEML gets added I hope it's a start of the introduction to the Eastern region as I strongly feel more routes such as Norwich/Ipswich - Cambridge, Wherry Lines, Bittern Line (and so on) should be added as they give the deserved justice for the Eastern region. Anyways, the GEML (LST - IPS section) is around 64 miles long and can take an average of 1 hour 10 minutes going towards Norwich (via IC) and 1 hour and 25 minutes average terminating at Ipswich (via the hourly xx02 service) to complete. I am also including the wonderful Elizabeth Line as it also runs along the GEML up to Shenfield. I think if this route was based in mid 2022 when EL trains were terminating between London Liverpool Street and Shenfield would be better because it has two terminating points instead of ending your service at Stratford. Either way I would accept mid 2022 or present day. Enough of an introduction onto the actual suggestion;

    Stations:
    In total, there are 23 stations on this suggested route, and they consist of:
    London Liverpool Street (GA) (EL)
    Stratford (GA) (EL)
    Maryland (EL)
    Forest Gate (EL)
    Manor park (EL)
    Ilford (EL)
    Seven Kings (EL)
    Goodmayes (EL)
    Chadwell Heath (EL)
    Romford (GA) (EL)
    Gidea Park (EL)
    Harold Wood (EL)
    Brentwood (EL)
    Shenfield (GA) (EL)
    Ingatestone (GA)
    Chelmsford (GA)
    Hatfield Preverel (GA)
    Witham (GA)
    Kelvedon (GA)
    Marks Tey (GA)
    Colchester (GA)
    Manningtree (GA)
    Ipswich (GA)

    KEY ~ (GA) = Greater Anglia (EL) = Elizabeth Line

    Rolling Stock:
    The rolling stock I would like to see on this route are as follows;

    Class 720 Aventra
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    The class 720 runs on quite a few branches out of LST which brings a big range of services you can ride and also a lot of AI. The services in timetable that could be playable:
    London Liverpool Street - Braintree ~ you can only take the service up to Witham with 1tph
    London Liverpool Street - Clacton-on-Sea ~ you can only take the service up to Colchester with 1tph
    London Liverpool Street - Colchester Town ~ you can only take the service up to Colchester with 1tph
    London Liverpool Street - Southend Victoria ~ you can only take the service up to Shenfield with 3tph
    London Liverpool Street - Ipswich ~ This service is fully playable with only 1tph

    All of the services mentioned above (apart from the LST - IPS) will obviously be taken over by AI once you've taken the service as far as you can.

    Class 745/0 FLIRT
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    The class 745/0 FLIRT is Greater Anglia's intercity service going from London Liverpool Street to Norwich serving customers first class, catering trolley and buffet bar. The IC service from London Liverpool Street - Norwich runs 2tph with the xx00 service being a faster service as it skips more stations than the xx30 service as the xx30 service doesn't skip Stratford, Chelmsford and Stowmarket.

    Class 345 Aventra Elizabeth Line
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    The class 345 is TFL service that connects the East to the West. As I suggested, if this route was to beadded in mid 2022, then the safety systems from Shenfield - London Liverpool Street would be TPWS. But if it was to be added present day the safety systems would be TPWS stretching from Shenfield into Stratford, but at Stratford it switches to CBTC ready for the core section driven by ATO.

    Layers:
    Class 66
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    I do not have much to say about the layers but the class 66 is the only reasonable layer without a re-skin. But.. if DTG are up for re-skinning and a tad remodelling (remodelling probably not needed) then a Freightliner class 08 and class 66 would be even better and lovely as they could be featured especially at Ipswich.

    Potential DLC:
    Class 755 FLIRT
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    The class 755 is a reasonable DLC in my opinion since two class 755/3's are coupled up with a 755/4 to run from London Liverpool Street - Norwich since GA ran out of 745 stock and had to add a few regional FLIRTs to keep up with the service. So the class 755 would be drive-able, and with a bonus, AI at Ipswich ready for regional services.

    Conclusion:
    Overall I hope the GEML would come to the game with FLIRTs and Aventras, if not I will still be happy either way, the Eastern region needs recognition at the end of the day though. Thank you for your time feel free to express your opinions below.
     
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  2. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    I forgot to add the new class 710 London Overground into layers. The class 710 from the up and coming GOBLIN line would also be a very good addition for AI at Liverpool Street to make it get the busy feeling it needs. And if the 710/2 is the variant coming to game, then the /2 does run on the lines to Chingford, Enfield Town and Cheshunt alongside the /1's.
    class 710.jpg
     
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  3. KrisKol

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    Yeah, I would definately enjoy all of this. Bring it on.

    All of those train units run this route, so they should be included.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    With the 755, what is that thing between the front two carriages?

    Great suggestion BTW.
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestion, I think the GEML would be an amazing route to have in game :)

    That is where the power pack is situated for the diesel engines on the Class 755s, I believe there is a corridor through that part of the train as well :)
     
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  6. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you :)
     
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    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you :) I totally agree, it would be amazing hopefully it comes into the game in the future, I wouldn't mind what era.
     
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  8. LawrenceNL

    LawrenceNL Well-Known Member

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    There is a corridor there yes, it's a (in my opinion) weird Stadler quirk, doing it like that (some of their electric trains have power packs like that too).

    On the topic of the route: I'd prefer to see a GEML route in the BR era, but modern like this also has a lot of variety it seems, so bring it on! :)
     
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  9. lawford

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    I am new to the TSW series and just bought TSW4 on PS5. I would absolutely love to see this line introduced.
     
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