So the roadmap mentions it’s been re-acquired. Surely it’s for a new route and the class 802 and not just a remaster. What do we think for TSW6? Cardiff -Bristol Plymouth - Exeter (my thought and preference) Any other thoughts?
Probably best to discuss in the existing topic of the GWE remaster: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...reciation-and-discussion-thread.83852/page-15
OP is referring to the possibility of TSW6's core UK route being a new GWR one, not strictly how the license relates to the GWE remaster. And on the subject of a route with an 802, it would make me very happy. My only hope is that it is a route that will actually feature a point of power changeover, rather than just being all diesel or all electric and having the other power mode go to waste as a result.
Swindon to Cardiff and Bristol would make for some good high speed running, varied stock and use the existing Cardiff trackwork and Station design.
I’m not referring to the remaster on GWE. I’m assuming a new GWR license would suggest a new route and train.
Definitely thinks this deserves its own separate topic as the remaster of GWE is a makeover of an existing route, not something new. Well I think the obvious, despite what’s being done with GWE is that it should be pushed further west and that really needs to go to Bristol TM to make any sense. Lesser possibilities could be a Bristol network similar to but hopefully bigger than Cardiff. Likewise Exeter area with Exmouth and Paignton. Another possibility could be the B&H down from Reading to Westbury which would give some nice scenery, fair variety of traction and the Mendip stone traffic as an aside. A proper attempt at the Cornish main line from Plymouth to Penzance would be a crowd pleaser. Outside chance of something like the Cotswold Line or around Gloucester. Traction wise, well for all my dislike I guess a Hitachi cucumber will come. A Class 165 to complement the 166 and maybe the 57 and sleeper stock. I would also venture to suggest the timing of this announcement indicates a fair chance whatever the TSW6 or late summer “big” UK route might be, it stands a better than even chance of being something GWR.
Given the Railway 200 celebrations, Swindon seems like an obvious spot to include. Perhaps one of the preserved GWR steamers alongside modern units - would make a good showcase for TSW 6.
I'm just wondering if GWR licence was expired why they didn't remove GWE from the stores but when Caltrain licence expired it was delisted from stores?
GWR licence announcement made my heart sink. That's the big UK TSW release for this year. TSW looking likely to make it to its tenth birthday with none of East Anglia covered. The eastern counties massif gonna be restless. Don't be disrespecting our patch on the east-side you DTG home boys. Right, back to acting like a 52 year old......
Probably unlikely considering the remaster coming soon, but I would love to see GWE get the SouthEastern High Speed treatment and extend to either Bedwyn or Oxford, both of which would give a good mix of high speed and stopper services. Just doing Reading to Bedwyn would give a natural stopping point, but at only 28 miles it wouldn't be long enough for running the high speed services.
There's never been a plan to extend the remaster, according to Matt. Though he did also say that there were no plans to extend the Mildmay Line to Richmond and then suddenly it's happening. So things can change behind the scenes.
It would make no sense now not to extend the route and maybe add the Class 802, more money in DTG’s pocket at the end of the day. Could an extension be happening behind the scenes and that’s why the remaster is taking so long to release? I could be mistaken, but I’m pretty sure I read by Liam that the remaster was already complete. Now it’s been delayed for some extra work added to it?
If they add more track and a brand new train, that would basically be a paid dlc like lirr 2.0 then it's no longer just a remaster
Just Because they have their license does not mean they are working on anything with them… DTG has loads of licenses that aren’t in the game.
It’s a decent route but it could become epic if it was extended to either Swindon or Oxford with perhaps a branch line to Windsor or Henley for good measure as well.
Really pleased for Liam about becoming a third party partner. Looking forward to some great content, and it makes good sense IMO because now he won't be constrained as much by what he can do, and we can rightfully give him a return on his work
All of the branches would be best. You left out Marlow, Colnbrook, Brentford and Greenford which are just as worthy.
Couldn't agree more. Liam has already demonstrated his ability and I look forward to seeing his own creations in the coming months.
If the license renewal allows for new DLCs. The 80X has to be a certainty. As for route? ENGLISH.....RIVERIA!!!!! Exeter to Plymouth with the branch to Paignton would be lovely.
I wonder...... If the GWE remaster was waiting for the GWR license to be approved. Call me cynical, but I feel like DTG skirt around the truth too much and there was a possibility of GWE being unbranded as GWR have clearly been disinterested in licensing for a good while now. We don't know what limitations were imposed in the original GWE.
This is where a bit more information from DTG would have been helpful. Rather than, “We got the GWR licence back.” Why not, “We got the GWR licence back and while we cannot reveal specifics at present, watch out for some announcements about exciting stuff to come.” That wouldn’t have given too much away but maybe a bit less low key than what we got.
Does It mean we get full branding like on East Coast Mainline - Posters and in-game branded route brands.
DTG re-acquired GWR license, and they can do many things, Like bring Exeter-Plymouth line and the famous Dawlish sea wall into TSW Part of Cotswold Line can be awesome, too. Or they can make a new South West route ( the last South West route in TSW was WCL in TSW2) I hope that we can see this in game in one days.
I am from Kent and would love to see a few more lines there but the Riviera line is the top of my route wishlist for TSW.
I don’t think this has been mentioned as a speculative option - I am long overdue an eyetest though so feel free to shout at me. What about the South Wales Mainline from Newport to Swansea. It’s about 57 miles, would use both TfW and GWR licenses, with Port Talbot Steelworks and what remains of Swansea Landore depot among the points of interest.
In all honesty, the Riviera line would be well and truly wasted on the modern era, but I can see DTG taking the less interesting option and doing modern… again. To get a proper Western region experience with actual Western rolling stock, it would need to be done either in the era of the real GWR with steamers or BR era with the Western Region’s Diesel Hydraulics. A good opportunity to add in the Warships and Hymeks, I might add. With the modern era, we’ll just get the ever tedious 80x again, a Class 66 on freight and whatever other units run on the line. Just the same old driving experience that can be done on other modern UK routes. Come on DTG, switch it up by giving us more era variety. Give us something interesting for a change
pretty much got lots of options: Pairs of 31 on passenger/freight 47 on passenger and freight 37 on freight 50 on passenger 33 on engineers HST on passenger Class 101 DMU on passenger Pairs of class 20 on freight Flying Scotsman - railtour
The Riviera line seems one of the most requested though whatever time period is chosen some will not be happy. I'd love it with a Class 50 and Valenta HST in the 80s or 90s. So possibly the route is one that could be done in one time period (say modern) and have a couple of Diesel Legends packs, one for Class 50/Valenta HST and one for Western Hydraulics.
Let's be honest, Just Trains + Riviera Line 1980s = Day one purchase and possibly TSW's best ever selling DLC.
They could conclude the terrible WCL , creating its missing St Austell-Plymouth section (better before 2023): Castles, 150/2s, 158s and IETs... Why not ? There would even be room for Voyagers! The Riviera or Cotswold would also be very, very interesting to make! Many options here! PS. That South Wales Main Line remains the best option for me!
It just occurred to me the electrification only ever went as far as Cardiff, so there would be the power change over there for services to Swansea.
Let's not forget that DTG loved The Riviera Line so much they did a late steam/early diesel version and what was then a modern version. So maybe two eras are possible. Modern with IET, Shortened HSTs and 165s for the younger audience (though I'd still buy it). And that mid 70's period for those of us who prefer older traction; Set when Westerns rubbed shoulders with Class 50s and that new fangled HST was just being introduced. I think both would make a lot of people happy.
