Hamburg Hbf Ai Traffic Is Great!

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  1. jolojonasgames

    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    Hi all, I know Hamburg - Lübeck has been updated with a new timetable for a while now. However, today I took some time to just marvel at Hamburg Hbf during rush hour. there is so much to do. It really adds life to the route, and makes you feel like you are operating into the hub that Hamburg Hbf is in real life. Thanks for that update, and hopefully many more will follow for other routes :). Places like HRR and Hagen Hbf can use more AI traffic aswell.

    AI traffic is really instrumental in bringing a route to life, just after the playable timetable of course. TSW has truly made great advancements in the way timetables are created. Nowadays it feels way less lifeless and repetetive than when TSW just came out. From DRA onwards the quality (on German routes at the very least, but also many others) has been top notch. I can't wait to see the original services and timetables DTG comes up with next. The timetable is the main reason I can't go back to TS and is one of the things in which TSW has grown the most over the past years. I have many critiques, but sometimes I also need to appreciate the great work shown :).


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  2. StrikeEagle78

    StrikeEagle78 Well-Known Member

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    That's strange. I have this route and have not seen a timetable update.
     
  3. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Only for tsw3. It doesn't add much more services. It's mostly ai only services in hamburg
     
  4. cloudyskies21

    cloudyskies21 Well-Known Member

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    Much agreed, the AI traffic has so much variety too, from passing single freight locos to even the occasional BR 101 autotrain service at Hamburg Hbf (I think these are even technically the same services as the ones from Kassel-Wurzburg).

    Now if Munich Hbf can be updated to the same standard, and possibly the likes of Hagen too etc that would be awesome!
     
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  5. Ferrovipathe67

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    and köln HBF too
     
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  6. erg73

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    Joe designed the original timetable, I think it was the first one he worked on. Then he gained a lot of experience, especially with London Conmuter and being a perfectionist he never forgot that Hamburg-Lubeck could have been better. He worked on it and thanks to him we can now enjoy this new timetable with the incredible AI traffic in Hamburg.

    Everything this man touches turns into gold. For example, BRO might seem like a boring route but nothing could be further from the truth. The variety of services and traffic he has added is excellent, he has thought of every detail and made it feel alive and never boring.

    He is also the person who made the full Bakerloo line timetable a reality!

    I only wish he was working on the new Rheinstrecke Mainz-Koblenz :)
     
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  7. Matin_TSP

    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    Is he not? Was that confirmed somewhere? Because I'd guess, Joe will populate Koblenz-Mainz.

    I guess, It's a bit hard to have the same amount of AI traffic, as we a lot of needed locos are not ingame yet. I guess, the timetable can give the 363 and the 155 a layer, as two typed of freight coaches come with the route. Maybe also substituiton-wise the 143for the 110 and (very rarely) the 101 for the 103.
     
  8. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I agree and around 20:35 09:10 the 182 does come in there from Augsburg Hbf RJX 66/63 Frankfurt am Main Hbf to Budapest Keleti via HMA. Also, keep in mind the 182 ES64U2 & DB BR101 are the mainstays of Sleeper trains in Munich Hbf 22:50 Munich 23:23 Augsburg the motorail train seen on KWG proper name is SFS Hannover Wurzburg
     
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  10. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct he needs to be brought in for the Northeast Corridor and future New York City subway routes otherwise it would be dead. Even your city Ottawa O-Train DB BR648s 620 DMUs will be absent if line 1 O-train is made.
     
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  11. JBViper

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    Totally agree.

    I rarely played Hamburg-Lubeck before the AI + schedule update. Now we can look at the activity in Hamburg and enjoy, but also a lot of shunting in the freight areas; purely awesome.

    Today is one of my most played German roads, there is so much to do.

    Congratulations Joe and those who worked on this project.
     
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  12. Matin_TSP

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    It's not our or DTG's fault, that the USA at some point didn't care about railway at all. Maybe the timetables are not so great because of DTG, but because of the reality of a state that privatized literally everthing and let the market "rule"?
     
  13. meridian#2659

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    As far i remember joe enhanced the a.i traffic for hamburg, also a lot of static stock on the route. Very good job by the way!

    This is the way it should be with new releases. They proved it with l2b (uk), riesa dresden (ger). Just dtg seems to go a direction now where customers have to beg for the absolute minimum and penalise all platforms.
    If console users choose to not upgrade their 10++ years old hardware, well cut the content for their last decade tetris box, but dont pretend current hardware isnt capable of, just because YOU guys at the devs house are too lazy to make a better experience for newer platforms
     
  14. erg73

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    Precisely what you say seems to me to aggravate what DTG is doing with the United States.

    I am European and I don't know the railways there very well, but it seems to me that they don't have the importance in passenger traffic that they have here.

    So, I think there are few current passenger routes where you can see significant traffic and movement, so if DTG tries to recreate one of them they should put their best effort so we can enjoy it. In GB and Germany there are hundreds of routes and it is more acceptable and bearable that some routes fall short of expectations, because we know that there will be others that will. In the USA it is not like that, every attempt is a once in a lifetime opportunity lost if they don't get it right.

    And on New York-Trenton they clearly haven't put the effort and dedication it deserves, so I fully understand the mood of some fans.

    Even I, who am not from there, am hurt by this disparagement. To give an example, how long have we been enjoying being able to drive in TSW with realistic safety systems in Germany? In the USA it looks like it will be now, after 5 years, and only thanks to the fact that an external developer like Cactus juice has taken it totally seriously and put the necessary effort to fix it. If it wasn't for him, we would still have a broken system for another 5 years.
     
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