The timetable is now available: https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m.../i5663-hauptstrecke-rhein-ruhr-timetable-2003 ---------- I'm working on a new timetable for Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr (Duisburg-Bochum) since a few days. I use the timetable from 2003 so there are no private operators, every train is operated by DB Regio. The only problem is the missing x-Wagen, which ran on the S-Bahn Rhein-Ruhr before the BR 422 replaced them since 2007. I have the following layers planned at the moment: HRR: S1, S2, S3, S9, RE16, RB33, RB35, RB42 HBK: RE2 KAH: ICE (BR 406) KWG: ICE (BR 401) BRO: RB35 SRM: RE3 NID: RB31, RB37, RB46 FTF + SRM: RE1, RE5, RE6 HBK + BRO: RE11 DCZ: Freight DCZ + BRO: S1, S2, S3, S6, S9 SRM + BRO: RE11, RB35, RB40 HBK + LFR: D BR 101 Expert: IC, MET BR 218: RE14, RB49 101 + LFR: EC, NZ, CNL G6 + DCZ + FTF + BRO: shunting at Duisburg With the BR 420 released, I will replace all 422 with it. Following lines are playable: RE1, RE2, RE6, RE11, RE16, RB40, S1, S3 and of course the most IC- and ICE-trains. I'll think later about freight trains. Unfortunatly I have no plan which trains operated on the RB40 (Essen-Bochum-Hagen). Maybe the BR 425 or trains with n-Wagen. Abellio operated that line already since 2005, for the first two years with the BR 182 and n-Wagen, later also with FLIRT. Because of the time period, having only the BR 422 on the S-Bahn wouldn't be that accurate (and it would be quite boring). I took another solution: n-Wagen with the BR 143 at both ends. The BR 143 with operate on a few services but most of them will still drive with the BR 422. The BR 422 has still the old PIS system with predetermined destinations, so it could only show "S1 Dortmund" or "S1 Solingen". In this time period the S1 runs only from Dortmund to Düsseldorf and not further to Solingen. I might have to ignore this so that the train shows a destination... Until now I only implemented all RE1, RE6 and S1 services and a few S6 services, but it are already 612 paths (services). I had to do some planning for the Essen Depot before, so that all planned trains drive in and out in the correct sequence. The planned timetable for all drivable trains and all S-Bahn trains has also been completed.
Geeiiill finally someone is working on the HRR timetable I'm already pretty excited Thank you for the work and time you put in and good luck
This is amazing! finally a nice HRR timetable in the works. be warned however, I believe the 143 and n-wagens aren't compatible with eachother as you cant control the loco from the cab car (if i remember correctly). Also would be awesome to see the expert 101 used when that comes out. And a 182 with n-wagen sounds really fun too
vuurkip#5765 that is correct, the n-Wagen cab car is only compatible with the BR 110 and I guess also with the 111. I won't use formations with the BR 143 and a cab car, instead all services will have one 143 on each end (sandwich formation). You can control the doors with every passenger loco, just need to open the doors on both sides. I'm not sure if I use the expert 101 in this timetable. The most TOD4 trains look horrible on TOD3 routes and I try avoiding them as much as possible. That is also the reason why I use the DCZ 143 instead of the DRA 143, even if the DRA 143 is in some points better. About the BR 182 with n-Wagen: I didn't made a decision yet what to do with this line. Maybe I also put the BR 425 on it. I added all S-Bahn services in the last days. The only exception is the S2 Duisburg - Dortmund because the train does not spawn from the portal for whatever reason. Next, I implemented all ICE services which use the BR 401. I'm gonna use the DCZ Dosto (766, 780) instead of the MSB Dosto (except the 785) because the MSB Dosto don't show the line in the destination board. MSB Dosto:
I know the TOD4 locos don't look good on ToD3 routes, but I think having the cabcar on HRR makes this route so much better. I would be happy if you include it. After all, in 2003 a lot of ICs had the cab car
coming from the area i’m glad to see a newer timetable on Hauptsrecke Rhein Ruhr Well done , but as mentioned by Matin not using TOD4 Rolling stock, (which btw is TSW3 and up) there is going to be a lot of missed potential. and for the S-Bahn services the 422 would be a perfect match, you could maybe ask Nickhawk if you can use his VRR repaint for the S1 Services. remember we have a lot of different Rolling stock in the game nowadays so don’t leave them out, would be a shame , excited to see where this leads to
matinakbary I will probably use the cab car. A lot TOD4 trains don't look that bad I expected. The 401, 111 and the Salzburg-Rosenheim Dosto are fine, but for example the 642 is way to bright. nourthelokdriver don't forget that I intended to set this timetable around 2003, but without x-Wagen that isn't really possible. For this reason I mixed up some timetable years. The times are from 2003 and the most trains also fit to 2003. I use a mix of 422 (since around 2007-2010) and 143 + n-Wagen (as stand-in for x-Wagen) for the S-Bahn Rhein-Ruhr. The RB40 becomes probably operated by abellio with the BR 182 and n-Wagen (between december 2005 and july 2007). I know about the VRR repaint, but it doesn't make any sense for this period of time. About the RB40: I found out that this line was operated with the BR 143 and x-Wagen before abellio took over. I don't want to use n-Wagen again as stand-in, therefore the 182 will drive there. But I need to check the door control first, as the n-Wagen doors somehow don't work with the Dispolok 182 (while the Avmz works). With the MRCE 182 instead, the door control works perfectly.
I implemented the most of the drivable trains and lots of AI trains in the last days. Some more pictures:
I'm so glad that the route is finally getting some attention. It really looks great. I'm looking forward to the timetable.
Tom Fresco unfortunatly I'm still not sure about the RB40. First I intended to create a repaint (or better: 4 repaints, for the loco and for every wagon), but that would fail due to motivation. The same basically happened with Rapid Transit, I created a repaint for the red door variant of the 1442 but didn't finished it (reflection and some decals are not finished and I had/have not really motivation to learn about it) and in the end, the 99% finished timetable was stuck for weeks on my computer. I'm not really interested in the same thing to happen with this. About the RB40: Before December 2005, DB Regio operated this line with a BR 143 and 4 x-Wagen. For TSW, there are multiple (fictional) options: BR 425 (I'm not really interested in it because the RE16 gets already operated with the 425), BR 112/143 sandwich with n-Wagen, BR 110/111 with n-Wagen, BR 218 with n-Wagen, BR 628 or some BR 182 sandwich (probably MRCE as this version can control the doors in TSW) with n-Wagen. Any thoughts on this?
The Hamburg - Lübeck Dostos also have working PIS, not sure if it always has but I noticed it working in my Niddertalbahn timetable.
I changed the Dosto to the Salzburg-Rosenheim ones already weeks ago. The only exception is the RE2 which uses the HBK ones, so that only one DLC is necessary for the RE2 layer (-> Hamburg-Lübeck). Unfortunatly, the PIS on the SRM Dosto often don't work when you drive the loco.
That looks awesome so far, already excited to try it out myself! Do you plan on using BR 111s with n-wagen? I´ve been looking for that configuration ever since Salzburg-Rosenheim was revealed! Good luck!
yuun#6848 half of RE11 services will use the 111 with 5 n-Wagen. I also put them on the RB40 Essen - Bochum - Hagen. In the last days I completed the RE14, RB49 and RB40 services and improved the IC formations with using the 101 Expert. Unfortunatly it is impossible to use the Expert 101 for costum timetables yet (I also mentioned that in a seperate thread), but a workaround was possible. The Expert 101 should sub into all services except the rear 101 (where the cab car was supposed to be). Somehow the BR 103 also subs into some services (all formations use the same geographic region for substitution - "DB Intercity" - so that doesn't make any sense). With the Expert 101, the rear light of the normal IC wagons doesn't work. I increased the S-Bahn services that use the BR 143 with n-Wagen. Instead of 1/3 services with the 143, it's now around 2/3.
I continued working on the timetable some days ago, all services (also for shunting) are now implemented. Unfortunatly there are new issues since TSW5 (I didn't touched the editor since then because I got other projects to do). First, the BR 101 Expert or more specific, the cab car. It is possible now to include the Expert 101, but the cab car does not communicate with the Loco. I tried driving in the Rosenheim timetable and also spawning a common consist and it worked, but in my timetable I can't control the 101 from the cab car. All used coaches in the formation are from the Expert DLC. -> solved it. For some reason, ZWS isn't activated on the 101, so you have to walk back to the 101 and turn ZWS on. The second problem is the 463 cab car (n-Wagen) in combination with the SRM BR 111. In TSW4, I could drive this formation from the cab car by setting the 111 to KWS. That doesn't work anymore. -> nope, it still works. You have some indicator lights (-> Leuchtmelder) on the cab car ("Lüfter" and "Trafoschutz") and they must be off. For shunting I had to use the G6 instead of the 363. With the 363, the AI didn't couple when I simulated the timetable. (substitution with the 363 is still possible)
Interesting about the nwagen and br111, I will have to double check this since I have done this for a few services on my RRO. Eager to play your HRR!
Driving the 463 cab car still works. You have some indicator lights (-> Leuchtmelder) on the cab car ("Lüfter" and "Trafoschutz") and they must be off.
The timetable is now finished. https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m.../i5663-hauptstrecke-rhein-ruhr-timetable-2003
Thank you very much for this much detailed time table. So far I have only driven two services on it (one 218 freight and one BR411 service) but it gets quite obvious that a lot of care has been taken towards details and accuracy. All PISs were indicating correctly, all panto configs were correct, Zg2 indicated as expected etc... Also, it is really busy, lots of parallel driving, lots of opposite trafic and also some adverse signals. There is so much versitile rolling stock to choose from, it must be one of the timetables, if not THE timetable, with the most rolling stock to choose from. All in all really enjoyable! Its just ashame that the route really shows its age! It can obviously not cope with the details and variety of the services on this tt. I was let into the sidings at Bochum Ehrenfeld with line speed, even though the signals should have indicted the 25kph restriction, somehow. Mind you, you do see this on some newer routes as well, but the main issue I have is that I can not really go back to the old lighting system. I got so much used to ToD4 that I am having a hard time looking at these older routes. Really great work, and despite the old lighting, and stuff, looking forward to be driving more on here in the near future and also to learn about your next project
Thanks for the comments! I did some fixes in Version 1.1, you can still download it here: https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m.../i5663-hauptstrecke-rhein-ruhr-timetable-2003 I fixed the broken RB31 AI-services in Duisburg, changed the Formation for the D 248/D 249 and set the BR 101 Expert to ZWS and also the BR 111 and 218 to KWS (-> you don't have to run from the cab car to the loco anymore).
seblay1608 I forgot to mention something: if you set the "minimum wait time" to 30 seconds on load nodes for the IC Expert services (if there is an intermediate stop with both an "STA" and "STC" I don't think it will matter but for the initial and final load nodes you can set this time) a certain upcoming feature will unlock If for some reason you want this minimum wait time to be a different value (like 45 seconds or 1 minute) if you keep it consistent to all IC Expert services (i.e. the value is the same for all nodes, not varying) then let me know what that value is and I can make sure it is handled correctly for this route
The version 1.2 is now available for download: https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m.../i5663-hauptstrecke-rhein-ruhr-timetable-2003 The minimum time for the 101 Expert load/unload instructions was set to 30 seconds, the empty stock services with the 628 between Duisburg and Bochum got a few fixed and there are improvements for the train sequence and stop markers.
