Help Me Out With Amd Graphics Cards

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  1. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    ...because I'm not familiar with them. My son is replacing his RX580 and has offered it to me: roughly what Nvidia card is it equivalent to?
     
  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    After a quick Google search it seems to be the 1650 super.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    So it would actually be a downgrade from my GX1060?
     
  4. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    I think it would be a little step down depending on your 1060 memory. It would not improve your pc's performance by much if at all. The 1650 was supposed to replace the 1050 so.....
     
  5. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Well, there is that. My 1060 is 3GB whereas this 580 has 4GB.
     
  6. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Okay- according to Userbenchmark.com, the AMD card would give roughly an 11% performance increase. Basically it was the direct competitor to the 6GB 1060. Certainly not enough of a sidegrade to spend money on, but since it's free.....
     
  7. Calidore266

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    I pulled up userbenchmark, did the comparisons, returned...and you'd already just checked.

    Real-world talk: I had an RX 570 for quite a while, and TSW2 ran fine on it at 1080p with mid-level graphics settings.
     
  8. dangerousdave

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    Didn't amd release a driver the other day that boosted some of its cards performance up as much as 90% ?

    If there's a 11% increase with more memory it's gotta be worth a try.

    It couldn't hurt to pop it in and see if you notice any gains in performance.
     
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    You are correct. The RX580 was the competitor to the GTX 1060. Although free, consider the software and driver support. I think Nvidia's Pascal drivers are more refined than AMD's Polaris drivers. TSW has a history of not liking AMD GPUs but perhaps that's mostly with the newer RDNA(2) cards. Not to mention you would be giving up NVENC, if that matters to you.

    Best thing to do is try it out and see if it does what you want it to.

    Cheers
     
  11. dbrunner#4864

    dbrunner#4864 Well-Known Member

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    You really need an upgrade both cards you mentioned are really low. I jumped from an 1060 6gb to a RX 5700 and the difference was quite noticeable. Add some dx12 and you really get some pretty high FPS even in crowded areas
    . If you have some money try and buy either an AMD RX 6600 or Nvidia 3060 and you will see a large difference and also be more future proof.
    Also keep in mind that at least 6 GB of video ram is a must and minimum required for all modern titles that came out from 2020 ;)
     
  12. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Sure, if I felt like dropping that kind of cash - especially since my motherboard won't support an RTX and I would have to go all-in on a new machine. This 580 offer is free.
     
  13. Calidore266

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    You can also give your current card to your son in exchange to sell.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Interesting idea
     
  15. dbrunner#4864

    dbrunner#4864 Well-Known Member

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    There is no issue with the mobo as long as you have an PCIE (16x) slot. Doesn't matter if it's a 1060, 580, 2060, 3060 it will work. The real issue might be the Power Supply if it doesn't have enough juice to deliver on the 12v rails for a more powerful card.You need 550w+ from a decent brand.
    What is your system spec?
     
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  16. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Odense 2k motherboard: 1 PCIe-16, 1 PCIe-1 slot; max RAM 16 GB
    500W PS
    Core i5-7400 Kabylake (max upgrade, i7-7700)

    That's the real limiting factor: doesn't matter what hypersonic graphics card I install, the CPU can't be upgraded beyond Model T speed.
     
  17. ARuscoe

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    Literally bought new mobo and CPU online yesterday for same reason. MY CPU is a 6th gen i7, which will get beaten to the long grass by a gen 12 i5 even with the same RAM (DDR4 2133) and GPU (RX580 6Gb)
     
  18. dangerousdave

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    For the price of a new 7700 you could get a 10th gen i5 and motherboard.
     
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  19. mariussoare_84

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    You will have to take the leap one day and upgrade, if you want to continue to play at a decent level of course.

    You could take advantage of the end of life offers that started to appear now that prices for graphics cards has even gone below msrp and the new generation is due this autumn.
    AMD plans to launch new CPUs as well so you might get a good deal for a MB+RAM+CPU+GPU if you start watching both online and local retailers in your country. This doesn´t mean that you have to get them all at once by the way. Just keep looking and snatch the deal for each individual component when it appears.

    Plus, you can always sell the current hardware and gain some money back.
    If I could sell an even older i5 3550 and a MB with the gpu pci-e slot defective you can sell yours too.
     
  20. gazz292

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    i rekon there will be a crap ton of second hand high end gfx cards on the market sometime soon, as the crypto mining market crashes and people try to get out... thing is tho, would a gfx card that's been run 24/7 worked as hard as possible be worthwhile buying for a gaming rig.
     
  21. mariussoare_84

    mariussoare_84 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly gazz292 but you don´t want those cards. Particularly in China you can get them dirt cheap if you accept the risk.
     
  22. Callum B.

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    A common misconception about graphics cards used to mine is that they have somehow had their lifespan decreased by being "worked too hard." In general this is not true. Miners undervolt their systems, meaning that they actually run cooler and more efficiently than typical, and they are also kept at relatively consistent temperatures rather than repeatedly heating and cooling like gaming sessions. The greatest risk is that a fan might die, but those are easy and cheap to fix. One caveat is any GPU with GDDR6X VRAM (RTX 3080(ti), 3090(ti)) might be more prone to failure due to the insane temperatures that the memory modules can sustain with improper cooling, but the vast majority use regular GDDR6.

    Cheers
     
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  23. dbrunner#4864

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    I understand your situation. Still keep in mind that TSW is very demanding on the GPU and less on the CPU, so even a bump on the GPU side will still show improvement. Ultimately it's your choice but at some point I think you will need a solid upgrade. Anyway you can get a cheap SH 1060/2060 with 6GB of VRam?
    TSW is already a stuttering mess with the best configs, running it on a video card with 4GB VRam would make situation even worst forcing the textures to be swapped from RAM to video memory all the time.
     
  24. Princess Entrapta

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    I keep forgetting there was a 4gb version of the 580, as I used the 8gb version. I always keep associating 4 with the 560.
     
  25. dangerousdave

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    I tried my 3070 with a pair of 5 generation xeons and the result was better than expected! What drives are you using ssd?
     
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    samsung 980 evo plus m.2 nvme ssd 2tb
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