Help With Workshop Scenario Management

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  1. KodiakJac

    KodiakJac Active Member

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    Hi guys!

    I'm now installing Workshop Scenarios using the manual method of subscribing to a group of scenarios in the Steam Workshop, then moving them out of the 24010 folder to a storage location on my hard drive. Then unsubscribing from them in Steam and unzipping them from my storage location on my hard drive and installing them manually in the Railworks/Content folder.

    Here is my question...
    If I latter want to delete one of the scenarios, can I do it from inside TSC? TSC knows the scenario is there, but Steam doesn't. Will it blow up my TSC installation if I delete a scenario that way?

    Thanks! :)
     
  2. torfmeister

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    There's no problems. Steam doesn't know of your own or other 3rd party scenarios either.

    And as Steam don't know and therefore no syncing of the workshop\24010 and the content folder takes place (which btw is useless - a WS item can't be updated anyway), you're free from trouble. Never had a corrupt scenario doing stuff this way. :)

    I subscribe, then unzip them to a backup location, unsubscribe. In case I should need to reinstall TSC, I just select the WS content folder and with one click on "Copy" all scenarios are back. Currently I have 1,026 WS items installed without any issues.

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  3. KodiakJac

    KodiakJac Active Member

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    Brilliant! Thanks, Torf :)
     
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  4. torfmeister

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    Always a pleasure, Kodiac :)

    It's often better to do stuff manually - and this has the advantage you keep the scenarios even if the author withdraws them.

    There's one I particularly liked on the Riviera Line, running a Western through heavy traffic. It was from KTL_Rob Powell and is not appearing anymore in the Workshop. Glad I still have it.
     
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  5. KodiakJac

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    And you answered a second question I was starting to wonder about... "How many scenarios can I manually install without affecting performance of TSC?"

    I've got a little over 900 scenarios installed right now, and no problems so far. I've just been slowly going through the Workshop picking up the scenarios that look interesting. And like you, I've been saving them after installing them. But I'm only saving the zipped scenario files, and it looks like you are saving them "as installed" which would save me having to unzip them again if I have to reinstall TSC. Is keeping a backup of the Content\Routes folder the best way to do that? That's what I think I'm seeing in your screen shot above.

    Thanks! :)
     
  6. triznya.andras

    triznya.andras Well-Known Member

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    Depends which part.
    Building the scenario database after clearing cache should scale about linearly with the number of scenarios.
    The Drive menu itself is either linear or exponential, it is slowing disproportionally now.
    I have about 400 DLC installed plus around 300 workshop items. The former should average out around 3000 scenarios, spread between the three major tabs. As workshop stuff is usually Standard, which tends to be less populated by DLC, I guess you can reach that number.
    In any event, there are people with three times the size of my installation, presumably many more scenarios, without any issues. I don't have any myself, except shenanigans caused by bad workshop extracts, which you are solving with the method above anyway.
     
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  7. torfmeister

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    The only thing which is affected is the startup time until you're in the main menu, and transitions between menus - that is due to the old AutoDesk Scaleform menus which are based on the obsolete Flash technology handling the scenario database. It will be reworked. More scenarios, slower access. The ingame performance itself is not affected.

    For editing and testing, I use a second install created by just copying the core files and folders to a new folder, adding only Assets\Kuju\RailSimulatorCore and the route's assets and Content files I am working on. Super fast startup and menu action.

    KodiakJac The right folder in my screenshot is the Content tree only containing workshop stuff.
     
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