I Am Dissatisfied With This Game.

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  1. razor170#2406

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  2. matt#4801

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    I am very satisfied with the game and all of the routes I have for it and there is no route I own which I would declare unplayable, though SoS is close but there is a fix coming for that in the new year thankfully but I still enjoy having the kettles in game along with using the scenario planner to take a peak down the stretch of the 90mph WCML section.
     
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    What's wrong with Sand Patch Grade? The rest I guess is somewhat understandable (even if I disagree)
     
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    metro north and lirr play fine.

    I’ve done all timetable and services on sand patch no problem

    only route in question is spirit of steam

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    There is a big difference between observing that there is "broken stuff" - of course there is - and calling the game "unplayable," or making claims which are so exaggerated as to be effective falsehoods like "The banking comms never work, the brakes are always getting stuck".

    There is a big difference between politely mentioning to the waiter that perhaps your steak could be put back on the grill a little longer, and [nope - Protagonist]
     
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    I fear this thread will be locked soon.

    Hopefully we needn't resort to that, but I don't think this thread will last long
     
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    Exactly … I e run into about 5 impossible golds so far today

    not exactly happy about that. Best to report it and hope they fix it

    I’d never have had them if the game was unplayable. At best it’s over exaggeration and at worst is utter nonsense.
     
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    Tell me you can't drive a train in TSW without telling me you can't drive a train in TSW. *chuckles

    Yes there are still some bugs or problems but that doesn't mean the train become undriveable. Mastering a train needs time.
     
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    Banking comm does work completely fine. You have to make sure to turn it on before touching anything for it to work. Also do know that even with trailing locos, you won't be able to move that fast cuz you're on a steep gradient and you got several thousand tons behind you especially if you are on a ps5 since you get longer consists.
     
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    I have no issues with Banking Comms. and have no issues with getting trains moving and stopping. As it has been pointed out it takes time and practice. Once you get the hang of how to control the train I am sure you find it enjoyable.
     
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    You would say that! Merry XMAS to you, the team, Sam and Nat, all I've missed! I do love you, but have a little hate! xx
     
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    The only route that Banking comm doesn't really work is currently Clinchfield AFAIK. And I think it's only the F7 that has the problem.

    Also, think some people should take a step back and take a deep breath, no need to get shouty so close to the holidays.
     
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    Friends, let's keep this one civil or it will be locked.

    Any time you use exaggeration to make a point someone will respond to you in an equally exaggerated fashion. This will lead to you feeling the need to defend your position by upping the ante. They'll then feel the need to attack by upping the ante again. Names will then be called, additional people will pile in and I'll turn up with a flamethrower and machete and purge the thread of heretics.
     
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    Smoking Sam
     
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    I wouldn't say I am dis satisfied with TSW.
    I've invested alot of resources since the beginning it came to Xbox one. And over the years it has improved.
     
  19. I'm not satisfied with the game sometimes but most of the time I thoroughly enjoy it.
    Out if all the other train sims out there I'd say its got the least amount of problems and it's by far the best looking one.
    Some of the services are broken in some way but there's still loads of others that work fine.
     
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    What would I say and why would I say it? I think I have completely missed your point so could you explain it to me slightly more please.
    Also merry Christmas to you too!
     
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    I'm satisfied with the the older routes more so than the new ones. TVL, GWE, ECW are 3 routes I really enjoy at the moment and they seem to play the best.

    I know there's room for improvement especially in the newer routes with SOS needing its patch (hopefully soon), SEHS is a bit laggy for me on series S and the AWS sounds on the BML 377, SEHS 465 and 375 are all distorted and too loud on Xbox Series S (465 is the worst for this). But the latter are smaller niggles. The big issues for me are the spads and physics on SOS, tutorials and scenarios I can't complete (the class 37 tutorial won't complete) and the irritating gold medals Ive had to reverse back and fourth for 40 minutes for (looking at that Gronk and 101 scenario on TVL).

    Yes there's definitely room for improvement but I've still been enjoying the game and for the most part fairly satisfied :) its just those bits and pieces like SOS that leave me a bit frustrated.
     
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    It becomes unplayable depending on the platform you're on. Like i hate that i spent tons of money on dlc to not be able to finish certain services on kassel/sehs/spirt of steam/dresden-r/london commuter without memory crashes. Imagine spending near and hour doing a service just for it to crash on the completion screen. Thats what makes it frustrating.

    Or bugs that make the train look like this [​IMG]
     
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  23. matt#4801

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    Yes by no means am I saying the game is perfect but it is not unplayable until every last service in a DLC is not able to be completed not when you can't do a select 10 or 20 out of 1000.
     
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    Strange, this looks oddly like photographic evidence of a defect within the game. I have been previously informed that any video or photographic evidence such as this is a figment of my and others' imaginations or that they were simply made up to smear DTG for who knows what reason. TSW3 is visually perfect in every way possible and any evidence to the contrary is simply to be ignored.
     
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    I have over 100 hours of personal experience that renders your so called video evidence to be poppycock

    you can always see for yourselves on my twitch

    And I never said it was “visually perfect” that’s your nonsensical response to my refuting your bs claims that the game is “unplayable” “a total mess” and “a waste of money” none of which are true

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    Just out of interest what platform do you play on and if console are you 8th generation? If so that would be a factor which will make the game run slower and graphics look worse.
     
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    Xbox Series X
     
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    Really!!!!!
    I have been playing on my series S recently as my PC needs some money spent on it and the quality of the game is brilliant on the series S which I believe is one down from the series X which is shocking.
    No offence by this but is it nit picky stuff or more obvious as my mind just can't comprehend how my series S would in any world perform better than your series X. Maybe it is more linked to an issue with your console rather than the game.
     
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    You would think consoles are built exactly the same off the line. But who knows, you could be right. All I have to go by is TSW2 which ran much smoother than anything built for TSW3.
     
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    Evidence of one failed service does not constitute evidence, except to support your absurd - strawman - argument that "I have been previously informed that any video or photographic evidence such as this is a figment of my and others' imaginations or that they were simply made up to smear DTG for who knows what reason. TSW3 is visually perfect in every way possible and any evidence to the contrary is simply to be ignored." I assure you, nobody has ever so informed you. You are simply putting nonsense in the mouths of non-haters.

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    Another reliable prediction is that Sam will shortly lock this thread, given that he's already been round once to give the civility caution.
     
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    Yes you are right. Tsw2 routes seem to have more consistent and better performance compared to tsw3 exclusive routes.
     
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    Padlock incoming…
     
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    On my old laptop which ran at low settings, that polygonal thingy was a thing on TSW2. I would load up a service, and be presented with a low-poly cab with very little colour, but then everything would sort itself out within a second. It is interesting as to how that doesn't seem to happen on the Xbox series X. Perhaps if you moved the free cam far away from the train to cull it, then move it back in it would fix itself?
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Yes I do hope this thread is locked as discussion is not possible with absolutists. One screenshot or video definitely is not evidence of wide ranging issues. However many different videos and screeenshots is evidence. But reading and comprehension with absolutists is clearly impossible, therefore no further discussion needs or can be had. Lock this thread up and throw away the key.

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    It’s one thing to be dissatisfied with the game. It’s not perfect. I was on Bremen just a little while ago and there was a bit more stuttering than usual.

    I wish the pop ups were a little better. You can see things from a couple hundred yards away but things like the mountains popping up on sand patch or Sherman hill or cajon pass I wish were better.

    sometimes rolling stock will be blurry.

    there are other smaller things. But to go on a crusade to exclaim the game is “garbage” “unplayable” and a waste of money is simply sensationalizing minor flaws.

    being an avid railfan finding this game is a godsend. I’ve spent more hours playing this game than any other this past year.

    to see the crap being spouted turning people away from a great train sim just isn’t right.
     
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    Let's just all calm down before this thread actually gets locked
     
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    waiting for flamethrower and machete to get into action.
     
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    Why all the hate? Come on guys, this is supposed to be a friendly forum. Way to go on putting a new member off. They were only venting their frustration. No, the game is not unplayable. However the amount of bugs is more than enough to put new players off. Theres no need for any of this, it makes the forum seem hostile to difference of opinion. We need to be friendly, welcoming and helpful.
     
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    You're right. I've blabbed too much on the topic and have incited negative feelings in others. I'm removing myself from the conversation from here on out.
     
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    No, no I understand you weren't singling me out, but your post had me reflecting on things and I realise that I've said my piece and I should leave it at that. The arguments are not productive nor are they helping in any way shape or form to improve the game.
     
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    Strikeagle78 it takes a big person to do that. Just see things from others perspectives. We've all been there, including myself.
     
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    I feel the same way.

    I’ll take your post as an extension of an olive branch and I will offer the same in return.

    I’m sorry you feel your experience of the game is less than mine.

    I’m passionate about this game because it allows this grandpa to simulate his childhood dream.
     
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    Hmm, surprised there still is no lock.
     
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