I decided to try out the Free Roam mode by walking the length of Sand Patch, both to see how many collectibles I could come across and also for the sightseeing. It's a very nice route from ground level at foot speed. Also, Led Zeppelin is really good music to wander by. Collectibles found: Safety posters: 21/25 No Trespassing signs: 19/25 Hard hats: 20/25 Snow markers: 25/25 Elapsed time: The lengths of the deluxe editions of Led Zeppelin III through In through the Out Door disc 1 track 6, "All My Love." Anyone else want to relate their walking experiences?
I’ve never really walked anywhere near the whole length of a line but I tend to pop into stations I like the architectural look off, collect the collectibles and board trains for a bit as a passenger, I think I don’t do it because i think I prefer to spend my time in game driving if I can Out of curiosity how long did it take to walk sand patch?
It was a few hours over a few sessions. The LZ albums I mentioned are what I listened to while walking, so roughly the equivalent of 11 discs plus a few songs. Nice thing is, the save game bug doesn't apply when on foot, so I had no problems at all.
How many hours is a few? You might have to put it in normal time measurement, not 50 year old albums, lol. Also, did you walk or run?
More than a couple, fewer than a lot. I'm afraid I wasn't watching the clock, so the music I listened to is the best ballpark I can give. I do have my speed defaulted to running. I'm sure the time would vary plenty between different people anyway.
Nice idea. I will have to try this. I have walked the IOW but never with a longer route. Will have to decide what music to do it too.
It's a good opportunity to go long or experiment. I had never listened to Led Zeppelin's entire catalog front to back before. It was fun hearing them develop. Not an accident.
I'm set to running speed on foot. I think Matt said in a recent stream that foot speed was speeded up a bit because realistic speed was just too slow. Your question inspired me to do a test. I went into Sand Patch and timed a couple of runs near each end. Time between mile markers 183 & 185 (didn't see 184): 7:45, or about 15 mph. Time between markers 224 & 225: 2:30, or about 24 mph. Conclusion: There is an alien abduction hotspot between miles 183 & 185.
Walked SKA. Lots of floaters on this route, including several electrical cabinets and even someone's garage. I did like the hot air balloons and airplanes, both small prop and large jet. I also saw some nice DTG graffiti, and couldn't help noticing that none of the other graffiti was in German. On my second session, I loaded the save and later walked by several AI trains in a row that were stopped at red signals. So the save bug doesn't only affect us. When I got to the next platform, I felt like I should apologize to the waiting passengers. "Sorry, I restored a save, your train is never coming." Collectibles found: Route maps: 19/20 Hazard cones: 19/20 No trespassing signs: 38/40 Snow markers: First aid kits: 20/20 Elapsed time: The length of the 8-disc Latin Rhythms CD set (mostly not to my taste it turns out, but I did like the Perez Prado and Rene Bloch Orchestra discs) plus Duke Ellington's arrangement of The Nutcracker. Things I learned: * The Düren station is on a dimensional portal, having a turntable in the big platform that connects to no rails and Japanese lettering on the buildings. * Flying is especially popular in Germany because gravity works differently there. * As with the internet, English is the official international language of taggers.
ROFL The other day I played stowaway passenger on freighter trains at RSN. Preferably on car transporters because you get a nice view and can walk around while traveling. Good for landmark sightseeing. Just don´t touch the OHLE. And I thought I could cheat on my walking mileage count and increase it effortless.But nooooo ....
I walked part of the Dresden to Riesa route in the week, to Bach of course! I didn't think of taking any photo's of my journey, I didn't notice too many issues but I accidently fell into a river and kept falling and couldn't stop myself so that ended that journey!
You can walk in the shoes of Silbermann on the DCZ route. Freiberg of course, where he lived and worked, Kleinbobritzsch where he was born. He built a lot of organs in that region. But given your nick, I suppose you already know.
I haven't got that route yet but intend to. But I shall do that for definate when I do. I knew there was a Freiberg connection as I believe he built an instrument for the cathedral but I didn't know he was based there. I think Bach wasn't fond of his piano building and he changed the way he built pianos after. I think there is very little of his organ building work remaining untouched. It is the same with British organs of the period there really aren't many that have survived unaltered. I want to travel to Germany at some point and go to places like Leipzig and Altenburg, would be great to play an organ he played on.
From 50 instruments, 31 are still around, but - of course - none of them untouched. Silbermann built 5 instruments only for Freiberg, 4 are still conserved and very well playable. Funny enough the earliest big one (Freiberg Cathedral - III/43) from 1714 is the most original. Apart from the changing temperaments - unequal to Werckmeister to modified mean tone to (sorta!) equal - she´s perfectly intact. You won´t find much original instruments played by Bach: Hohnstein Stadtkirche, Altenburg (Trost - heavily modfied) and best - Naumburg - St. Wenzel. Or outside Saxony: Hamburg - St. Jacobi Zeitgeist or stupid wars have taken most of the instruments. Too bad! Sorry for the off topic in the .......... oh wait .......Off-Topic Forum.
That is interesting and thanks for that information. I think just sitting at an instrument he played even if it is altered would feel quite an honour but if I can find the most original that would be great. I do like German organs especially the earlier ones and would love to play some. Sadly stupid wars have been the cause of much destruction of history and culture and it still happens now in the middle east. Henry VIII was the cause of the destruction of a lot of our early organs as he banned them from churches!
Speaking as the thread originator, it's fine by me. Sometimes the side conversations become more interesting than the main topic. It may be a while before my next walk anyway, and German organs are as good a subject as any.
I would have to say that the biggest wrecker of Baroque and earlier organs has not been wars, but 19th-century notions of "progress" and the compulsion to "improve" everything. The problem isn't so much the instruments which have been destroyed, as the ones altered almost beyond what their builders would recognize.
Right on spot. That´s why I brought the famous Zeitgeist in, the spirit of the times in Late-Romantism. Human beings are of the extremes and so it is no wonder that the "Counter-Movement" went to the other extrems in the 1950s-1980s which brought us the (arguable) neo-baroque. If theorganist wanted to play an organ touched by Bach, it could ´ve been the Silbermann-Organ in the Frauenkirche Dresden from where we have historical reports that The Master himself excelled on it in 1736 "to the great amusement of the royal saxon high court". But that organ has been lost in the Dresden Bombing 1945. The other one in the Dresden Cathedral was finished 1754, after Bach´s and Silbermann´s death. And only its pipes are preserved because a visionary (and very courageous) vicar of that church saw it coming and had the pipes extracted and stored in a distant monastery in 1944. It was rebuilt until 1971 using the original Silbermann pipes. Bach never touched that organ BUT...... no one lesser than Mozart did. Ah well, back to the 612 now. I still have to master PZB ...
Yes that is very true but organ music changed particularly in the mid to late 19th century with many more orchestral sounds so organs were often regrettably rebuilt to suit. String stops became popular, more solo stops especially solo reed stops and higher wind pressures gave rise to larger Diapasons and heavy pressure reeds, plus big romantic mixture stops meant that composers had new organs to compose for. Personally as someone who is mainly into late 19th century and 20th century composers like Howells, Leighton, Vierne, Durufle, Reger, Karg-Elert a lot of that wouldn't be effectively played on a Baroque instrument, but it is a shame so many Baroque organs were lost. The church near me had a George Pike England organ from around 1809 that was heavily rebuilt in the early 20th century but a lot of the original pipework survives. The opposite happened around the 1960's/1970's in the UK, particularly in the Oxbridge colleges when romantic/Victorian organs were replaced by neo-Baroque instruments. With lots of upper work and no foundation. They aren't really suitable for accompanying Anglican church music, which is their raison d'etre! Anyway back on topic, I am going to start walking rapid transit as it isn't really enjoyable to drive atm and going to give the DB 101 which I have just purchased a try.
Something parallel happened as well with pianos, and orchestras; but both of those are easier to change and change back* than organs- those tend to be rather more semi-permanent. *I mean of course changing instruments, not physically altering one. Kind of tough to add an iron frame to a Streicher! And I doubt that anyone who owns a Stradivari would be willing to re-Baroque it.
Yes that is true, it is interesting how musicians adapted to different tastes, as you say you are generally stuck with an organ once it is installed. I feel finally we have reached a point in classical music where all styles are acceptable, certainly in the world of organs and church music, I inhabit. Whether it is Gregorian chant, Tudor polythony or 20th century romanticism. Many modern organs have been rebuilt so that they can do most things now. The one I learnt on, a large Edwardian instrument had been altered and could play Bach and Howells just as effectively, although some of the purists would have rather it stayed as the bottom heavy, dull instrument it was.
EDIT: We´ve royally highjacked this thread. I´m the one to blame. Apologies! So, go and Walk the Lines!
So, I´ve started to walk down the line in Chemnitz. Blind Pipey couldn´t find anything collectible so far. Nothing, zilch! What I´ve found are two abandoned turntables. What is it with DTG and leftover turntables?! Well, anyway not abandoned enough to be left without powering and handle. They actually work.
It actually is the place of the Saxon Railway Museum at Chemnitz Hilbersdorf. Too bad, DTG didn´t model at least e few glimpses there. It´s silent like a graveyard. But you can´t have it all, I guess. Saxon Railway Museum
Ha, kinda reminds me what I was thinking these days: TSW is (sort of) a replacement for the model train hobby. It was time and space consuming already by the time I was a kid, but nowadays it becomes also non-affordable. It´s amazing what they charge for these models nowadays. Anyway, it´s a pity DTG didn´t take the hook and modeled this notorious museum there. Would´ve been a real gem. Although, I HOPE this is just the beginning. I´m a bit puzzled that TSW does not use some simplifyed AI models like we had in the flight simulators. It brought a great deal to the surrounding traffic. While not drive(fly)ables, they were "light weight" and FPS preserving. This should be WIP.
Walked the majority of London Brighton. Was actually inspired to initially check out the forum to find out why Reedham and Coulsdon Town were inaccessible.
Not as long until my next walk as I thought. I finished three chapters of SKA journeys, saw how many more were in the fourth chapter (not a complaint!), and decided to try something different and come back later. On to SEHS. This one was a pretty straight line with a couple of long tunnels that were skippable, so it didn't take nearly as long as the previous two. Elapsed time: The first roughly 5 1/2 albums by War with & without Eric Burdon. Side note: One of the best things about listening to a band's complete works is being ambushed by the great tracks that you've never heard before because they were never played on the radio for whatever reason. Inexplicable in the case of "Lonely Feelin' ", for example, which is a most excellent stomper. Ironic that this is the shortest route I've walked so far but had my worst performance finding collectibles. Route maps: 25/25 Newspaper bins: 20/25 No trespassing signs: 24/25 Broken fences: 17/25 Thoughts along the way: The look of the electrical cabinets made me think that placing a porta-potty somewhere among them would be a successful, if cruel, practical joke. It's important to listen to the out of service announcements. Got to watch a working crossing gate start to finish (twice!), which was very cool, as was seeing the special railtour train go by. A different interpretation of rising property values. Quicksand!
I walked some areas of Tharandter Rampe Dresden - Chemnitz. I stopped on one of the turntables, and make it work. But something weird happened... Look!
Already logged here https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...ear-dresden-has-extra-track-underneath.51166/
My apologies chieflonshin if repeated your post. I have few time to enter the forum, due to I work most of the day, so not usually read all the previous post. Yesterday I went to another turntable - far away - on the route, and exactly the same problem with it
I generally don't explore the maps on foot, but I made an exception for LGV near Marseille (I'd say until the power changeover tunnel) and it's just gorgeous, I recommend you try it, it's really really good, and it also doesn't take much time given the short lenght
