1.) At Back Bay station, outbound AND inbound trains must stop in a space where a double(door) is available to the accessible platform. Definitely presents a nice stopping challenge as the accessible platform is only about 20-30 feet long. 2.) ALSO... At Back Bay, locomotives are NOT permitted to stop in the station(under the canopy, due to exhaust, henceforth...said vehicle must stop just beyond the platform on outbound trains and on inbound trains, the same. 3.) An Amtrak train actually runs from South station to Chicago (via Worcester daily at 12:50pm(Lake Shore Limited). Please include some type of Amtrak train as it is indeed apart of that daily schedule
They cant do that as we lack the correct stock to represent it (Diesel Locomotives & Viewliner cars) Though IIRC its built into the timetable so it can slot in if anyone ever makes it.
Indeed. Considering the relationship DTG has had ( and I assume continues to have ) with Amtrak, there's really no good reason why they don't build a Genesis type or Siemens Charger loco and associated rolling stock, that we could run on SPG, CJP and other routes at least in free roam. I'm certain it would sell extremely well and not just in the US.
Dtg have explained it before but it's due to the lack of gameplay for a high development cost. It's only like 2 services per dlc and you have to buy even more dlc just to get 2 more services. Multiple new things have to be modeled and they've explained it's not favorable from a return on investment point of view
Yes nothing new here. Your usual " too hard, too much time etc. " wish I were actually a spokesperson excuse.
Sorry but this is beyond tired at this point. There's like 10 routes already in the game an Amtrak diesel could run on (maybe i'm exaggerating a little) and it would add so much life to them. I just don't think DTG management (NOT the devs, the recent US content that has come out has been quite good IMO) care as much about American content tbh. They say they can't do US Freight because they don't have references, but have said how great of a partner Amtrak is, and i believe them. They could absolutely make a Genesis or Charger and have it be a great product and people would buy it. There's an expert BR101 at this point and another expert loco in development, but no Amtrak diesels at all (except the SW1000R, which they couldn't even bother to port over lol). Can you imagine if we had no HST or ICE in the game at this point? The torches and pitchforks would justifiably be out. /rant
The too much for too little argument for the Amtrak LD stuff does start to get a little old. I don't think a massive pack of everything Amtrak has ever run long distance is called for, but doing smaller packs like Skyhook's Cargo Line DLC's would be a good way to start. Something along the lines of the following... East Coast Long Distance Pack P42 Locomotive Viewliner II Baggage Viewliner II Diner Viewliner II Sleeper Amfleet II Coach Scenarios and services for NY-Trenton, Boston - Providence, Boston - Worcester, Horseshoe Curve, Oakville, and Sandpatch West Coast Long Distance Pack ALC42 Locomotive Superliner II Coach Superliner II Diner Superliner II Sightseer Lounge Viewliner II Baggage Scenarios and services for San Francisco - San Jose, Cajon, and both LA routes They could easily charge route prices for both of those, $30 - $40, and I guarantee they would sell like crazy and take less time than actually developing a route. They wouldn't even need to be a "Pro Range", just have standard features and details. I wouldn't even expect each and every compartment to be fully modeled. Not to mention, aside from the locomotives, the Viewliners and Superliners share a common design amongst themselves, so once you model one car, it's just a matter of tweaking the current model to the next (IE, coach to baggage, diner to sleeper, etc.) Also, as mentioned, DTG have got the Amtrak license, utilize it; I watched a stream on YouTube a couple of weeks ago where Amtrak's PR rep was going over new Bachmann model trains, and he spoke for about 15 minutes how cool it was working with DTG on the Phase III ACS wrap. Obviously doing research trips to the US isn't an issue, if they've now arranged it with two commuter agencies on two coasts now. Hell, the Rensselaer shops are only a 3 hour drive across the Pike from where they were in Boston, and they have the reputation of being the best maintenance and overhaul base for the Genesis locomotives on the east coast. Once you get the locomotives developed you then open up to further DLC with limited modifications and tweaks. The P42's can be modified into P32's for future Metro-North content and possible Amtrak Empire Services, heritage paint scheme packs, a possible future VIA variant if they ever get the license and go north of the border again... Same goes for the the Charger. They're being built to be as modular and standardized as possible, and are quickly becoming the face of North American passenger rail. Once you get sounds recorded and a model built, future variants to sell in other DLC becomes easy profit at limited investment.
Well our wannabee unofficial spokesperson had to stick his oar in (not you, the person you replied to!). Agree there must be enough scope now to bring in some Amtrak long distance equipment. Failing that, why didn't they just do a reskin of the F40 and use the Amfleet coaches from Boston Commuter to represent the services? Bettrer than nothing.
maybe we should try or need a similar demand how many people on fourm to suggest intercity225 to get any attention from the dev?
I will play devil's advocate on this one, and say that it boils down to the "missing content" versus "wrong content". It's been about three decades since F40's ran the Lake Shore, so they'd look pretty out of place. I mentioned in one of the other threads on the Worcester route that adding an Easter Egg LSL service being towed in with a CSX wide cab would not go amiss, but even then I think that'd be stretching reality a bit (you see tow jobs like that more west of Chicago). In many cases, I'd rather the content be missing rather than something out of place subbing in. Something extraordinary is far more distracting than an absence, especially to railfan eyes lol.
It pops up pretty frequently on the Suggestions forum. I don't doubt DTG is aware of the demand, I just agree with the others that their priorities and budget don't always entirely reflect consumer demand.
Unless they make a specific 1 day timetable, I don't see it as feasible on the 2 Metrolink routes.... Antelope Valley only sees the Coast Starlight if the Coastline is out of service, something that sometimes happens, but I don't remember the last time it did. (Maybe a few years ago?) Same with Amtrak on Metrolink's San Gabriel Sub. Which I dont think happened since this, well over a decade ago.
I'm not saying to develop it specifically for the two LA routes, but having the LD equipment as static scenery around LAUPT and with some playable services would add to the draw of a pack such as the one I suggested. If they develop the equipment, they might as well add the layers in where they can; where's the harm in making the most of what you have?
DTG could always just reskin an F40 with some amfleets and call it a day. If they were even lazier they could just use one of the MBTA locos in front of some amfleets and say it was an emergency substitution. After all on BPE the Lake Shore Limited is represented by the ACS64 and some amfleets and that's even more wronger. If anybody doesn't like it they can turn off the layer. Why doesn't DTG do something like this? That's for them to know, and us not to.
This popped up on the "Missed Details" thread for the route. My response was that it boils down to the "missing content" versus "wrong content". It's been about three decades since F40's ran the Lake Shore, so they'd look pretty out of place. I mentioned in one of the other threads on the Worcester route that adding an Easter Egg LSL service being towed in with a CSX wide cab would not go amiss, but even then I think that'd be stretching reality a bit (you see tow jobs like that more west of Chicago). In many cases, I'd rather the content be missing than something out of place subbing in. Something extraordinary is far more distracting than an absence, especially to railfan eyes lol.
To someone from outside the UK I tend to associate Amtrak with those big chunky F40 diesels rather than their newer locos. In fact I always think it a crying shame Run 8 haven’t done one for their game yet. So while I see where you’re coming from, in terms of era it would be like layering the Class 101 DMU on to a modern UK route, equally it would be a relatively cheap and cheerful means of representing Amtrak diesel, until DTG get off their hands and create something more suitable.
I dont know anything about the area, but i think dtg put alot of effort into this dlc and the timetable. If the feedback is positive, ill might get it full price.
