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Irish/american/french Steam Locomotives Ts2020

Discussion in 'Content Suggestions & Proposals' started by SilverFox, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. SilverFox

    SilverFox New Member

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    Presently there is a major lack of 5'3 broad gauge Irish steam locomotives, rolling stock & routes for Train Simulator 2020.

    Preserved locomotives include Great Northern Railway Ireland V - Class 4-4-0 Compound No 85 Merlin, Great Southern Railway Class B1a 4-6-0 No 800 Meabh, Dublin & South Eastern K2 Class 2-6-0 No 461,

    Great Northern Railway Ireland S2 Class 4-4-0 No 171 Slieve Gullion & Q Class 4-4-0 No 131, LMS Northern Counties Committee 2-6-4 WT "Jeep" Class & U2 Class 4-4-0 Dunluce Castle.

    Routes (1920s - 1960s Steam Era): Dublin - Belfast, Cork - Dublin, Belfast - Dublin, Galway - Athlone - Mullingar - Dublin, Sligo - Dublin, Dublin - Wexford.

    (3 Foot Narrow Gauge)West Clare Railway/Cavan & Leitrim Railway/Tralee & Dingle Railway/County Donegal Railway/Clogher Valley Railway

    (Northern Ireland) Belfast - Derry, Downpatrick & County Down Railway (preserved)

    At its peak in 1920, Ireland had 5,600 km (3,480 mi) of railway, now only 2,733 km (1,698 miles) exists.

    Historical info/Irish railway companies/reference photos/locomotive design specifications can be found on Wikipedia and the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland's website.

    Additional Links:

    https://www.steamtrainsireland.com/rpsi-collection

    https://transportsofdelight.smugmug.com/RAILWAYS/IRISH-RAILWAYS

    https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Irish-railways

    https://www.eastcorkcameragroup.ie/Shoots/ECCG-Shoots-2018/Steam-Trains-Mallow-13052018/

    https://thewandererphotos.smugmug.com/browse

    More American/Canadian steam would be good, Norfolk & Western Railroad J - Class 4-8-4 #611, Sierra Railroad 4-6-0 #3 "Movie Star" Locomotive, Pere Marquette Railroad N-1 2-8-4 #1225,

    Norfolk & Western M Class 4-8-0 No 475, Canadian Pacific Royal Hudson 4-6-4 No 2860 & Hudson H1b Pacific 4-6-4 No 2816 Empress, Canadian Pacific 4-6-2 No 1293,

    Chesapeake & Ohio K-4 2-8-4 Class, Chicago & North Western Streamlined E4 Pacific 4-6-2, Connecticut Valley Railroad #3025,

    Central Pacific 4-4-0s #60 "Jupiter" & #63 Leviathan, Union Pacific 4-4-0 #119, Milwaukee Road F7 Streamlined 4-6-4 Baltic/Hudson,

    New York Central Railroad 4-6-4 J1a/J2a/J3a Streamlined Hudsons (20th Century Limited/Empire State Express 1930s)

    Pennsylvania Railroad G5 4-6-0 & D16 4-4-0 #1223, H6 Class 2-8-0 #2846, M1 Class 4-8-2 "Mountain", S1 6-4-4-6 Duplex experimental prototype, T1 4-4-4-4 Duplex.

    Reading Blue Mountain & Northern 4-6-2 Pacific #425, Timken 1111 4-8-4 (1930)

    French steam would be another nice addition, particularly SNCF 4-6-0 230 - G - 353/PO 4353, known for pulling the 1930's Simplon Orient Express in Murder on the Orient Express (1974). Cosmetically restored in 2014, undergoing mechanical restoration to working order at APPMF workshops in Gievres, France after several years absent from the mainline/heritage railways due to serious boiler damage.

    Links: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/230_PO_4201_à_4370

    https://www.fondation-patrimoine.org/les-projets/locomotive-230g353-de-l-appmf
     
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  2. SilverFox

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    Great Southern Railway B1A Class 4-6-0 No 800 Meabh - Copy1.jpg
    Class: GSR B1a
    Chief Mechanical Engineer/Designer: E. C. Bredin
    Builder: Great Southern Railway, Inchicore Works, Dublin, Ireland
    Built: 1939–1940
    Total Locomotives produced: 800 Meabh, 801 Maca & 802 Tailte
    Whyte Configuration: 4-6-0
    Gauge: 5 ft 3 in (1,600 mm)
    Tractive effort: 34,799 lbf (154.8 kN), later reduced to 27,839 lbf (123.83 kN)
    Railway Companies: Great Southern Railways, Córas Iompair Éireann (CIE)
    Territory: Dublin - Cork Mainline
    Withdrawn: 1955–1962
    Disposition: Meabh preserved at Ulster Transport Museum in Cultra, Maca & Tailte scrapped by CIE during dieselisation in the 1960s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSR_Class_800
     
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    GSR 800 Meabh Cab Interior.jpg
    GSR 800 Meabh Cab Interior
     
  4. Buynot

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    Some of the American locomotives you listed have already been made. The C&O Kanawha and PM Berkshire can be found here:
    http://railworksamerica.com/index.p...nawha-2-8-4-re-paint&catid=18:engine-repaints
    http://railworksamerica.com/index.p...-berkshire-rev-1&catid=30:rwa-lakeside-addons
    The Jupiter and UP 119 can be found here:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/562379/Train_Simulator_CPRR_440_No_60_Jupiter_Steam_Loco_AddOn/
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/678005/Train_Simulator_Union_Pacific_No_119_Steam_Loco_AddOn/
    The New York Central J3A (both streamlined and non-streamlined) can be found here:
    https://digitalrailroadingco.powweb.com/dr/home/motive-power/steam-locomotives/
    The guys that made the J3A are also working on several Pennsy steamers including an H6 Atlantic, H-10 Consolidation, both the T-1 and S-1 Duplexes, and possibly a revamp of the K-4.
    There's also some old MSTS conversions available for the MILW F7 and other US steamers.
    As for the N&W J, it has been discussed here repeatedly but unfortunately the owners of 611 have placed a trademark on her design, meaning extra royalties would have to be paid.
    Hope this helps!
     
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    Thank you for the providing the links!, very much appreciated. An unfortunate shame about #611, that the owners never considered allowing her design be used with DLC sales contributing to maintenance, repairs and perhaps future restoration.
     
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    34992048410_7d4eb9a4d9_b.jpg Great Northern Railway Ireland V Class Compound 4-4-0 No 85 Merlin
    Railway Companies: GNRI, CIE (Coras Iompair Eireann), Ulster Transport Authority (UTA)
    Former Territory: Dublin - Belfast Main Line, Enterprise Express (non - stop)
    Owner: Ulster Transport Museum Cultra, on long term loan to Railway Preservation Society of Ireland
    Designer: George T. Glover
    Built: Gorton Works, Beyer, Peacock & Co, Manchester, 1932
    Total built: 83 Eagle, 84 Falcon, 85 Merlin, 86 Peregrine, and 87 Kestrel
    Whyte Arrangement: 4-4-0
    Gauge: 5 ft 3 inches (1,600 mm)
    Driver diameter: 6 ft 7 inches
    Total weight: 103 long tons 11 cwt (232,000 lb or 105.2 t)
    Boiler pressure: 250 psi, later 215 psi
    Firebox: Belpaire (1950 rebuild)
    Cylinders: Three – 1 High Pressure (inside) and 2 Low Pressure (outside)
    Valve gear: Stephenson
    Tractive effort 23,762 lbf, later 20,435 lbf
    Nickname: Pounders
    Retired: 1959–1963
    Disposition: Merlin preserved, 83 Eagle, 84 Falcon, 86 Peregrine, and 87 Kestrel scrapped.


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    34430866351_b27aab1bcd_b.jpg London, Midland & Scottish Railway (Northern Counties Committee) WT "Jeep" Class 2-6-4
    Owner: Railway Preservation Society of Ireland

    https://www.steamtrainsireland.com/rpsi-collection/4/no4
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCC_Class_WT

    17880203_598267277042904_2127484662872333463_o.jpg London, Midland & Scottish Railway (Northern Counties Committee) WT "Jeep" Class 2-6-4, Connolly Station Shed, Dublin.
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    London, Midland & Scottish Railway (Northern Counties Committee) WT "Jeep" Class 2-6-4 heading southeast on the Dublin - Wicklow - Wexford Main Line, former Dublin & South Eastern Railway metals.
     
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    Can't forget the N&W A-Class 2-6-6-4 and Y6b-Class 2-8-8-2, NYC Niagara, and PRR Q1 and Q2 Duplexes.
     

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