So I’ve been doing a little bit of research and I realized the longest map TSW3 has ever had was the high speed German route which was 116 miles and that got me thinking how far is it from New York Penn Station to Montauk Station Long Island so I did my research and it is exactly 116 miles funny huh so I wonder is dovetail capable of doing this. Of course they are they make thousands of hundreds of dollars daily. But that’s not saying they will do it because if they wanted to do it, they need people who also want the “” idea I understand there’s a lot of people out there who love Long Island rail Road, the Long Island Railroad has been TSW ever since the game came out I’m sure I didn’t do my research on that so I could be wrong but the route has been out for a very long time and I understand people want more. I remember like it was yesterday I went into my local GameStop and I was looking for a game like anyone, I saw a distinctive MTA logo appear, and my face brightened up like God send me a gift a gift that I would forever cherish like usual. I bought the game and I continue playing ever since that day I’ve always loved playing on the Long Island rail Road route, but plan on the same route for a certain amount of time gets born, especially when you know that route goes much further than the game made it go and I know a lot of other people would like to go much further, which is why I think dovetail should expand. I’m pretty sure if they would do this. It would be something you would have to pay for or if you have you don’t have to pay for like the Boston route when that Acela train came out. Of course the price went up but for the people who already owned it they got the update for free so I don’t know how that would work hopefully be the same thing, but if not, and the people who already own it, just have to pay a little bit extra and if people who don’t have it have to pay full price I can see that working out but in the meantime, I can only just dream about an update coming out for Long Island rail Road and extra trains along with it. I’m pretty sure you know which ones I’m talking about I mean it’s not like I’ve been spamming 24 seven about a certain train cough cough my profile picture but anyway thank you for reading my suggestion/idea whatever you wanna call it and have a great day/night
By car. Trains and cars are very different - for instance the ecml north between Newcastle and Edinburgh is 92 by car but 115 by rail - over a 20 mile difference and for a proper network its probably even more - the Edinburgh to Glasgow networks in Scotland is 200-ish miles by rail and they don't cover an objectively massive distance it's just a massive network like the LIRR
I think there's quite a significant development difference between a high speed route through open countryside with very few stations, and a frequent-stop commuter route with many more built up areas and lots of stations which need to be built and recognisably different. The numerical distance value rarely tells the full story. I imagine there was more work in the BCC route than some of the huge, open high speed routes.
It is possible but the chance of it happening is slim. 100+ miles is a lot with the mainline and all the branches and all the route building and signaling implementation to do. If it was 116 miles of straight track like skw with little changing scenery, then it's possible but 116 miles with more than that and all you mentioned is something that would be more complicated.
Spot on and the only way for that to be done is LIRR Babylon & Montauk Branches that can merge with the current LIRR map using the Hillside Support Facility Flyover which is how Babylon Trains run to or from Jamaica towards Babylon while Montauk trains simply run on Main Line and then Central Branch to Babylon via Bethpage. The missing bit on the current LIRR Map is Hicksville Bethpage junction.
I wouldn't say the complete network for Long Island railroad at this point, but it's possible in the future!
Taking it that doesn't include the various branches? Also, tell me; how many stations does Kassel - Würzburg have, and how many would this LIRR have? That'll be your difference between possible and not possible.
I agree LIRR needs a TSW3 remake I would love it if it includes: more branch lines Scenery, improvement and Locomotives.
I would just love to see mainly scenery and general improvements to the route and loco's. They also did it with SMH with the livery pack! Now SMH looks better then ever and LIRR could use this!
New here! I’ve read quite a bit on similar frustrations around the LIRR DLC. Just wondering if any of the concerns directed at correcting the existing DLC or developing an expansion has ever been addressed by DT?
Go to Montauk, is it diesels? With the Long Beach branch as well I'm sold!! As long as you accept for every passenger route we have a freight route too. I think that is fair. But DTG will look at what is selling the best. If it goes to Montauk similar to what DTG in TSC did with Munich (3 routes!!) and the Long Island branch I would love it!!!
I think a remake makes sense for TSW-3 or TSW-4!!! With: more playable/non-playable services, branch lines, locomotives and improve lighting!!!!
I definitely would like to see the whole LIRR map or give the current LIRR a revamp. I am not sure but I vaguely recall seeing somewhere on the forum where someone was developing an LIRR DM30AC. It looked like it was a work in progress via Blender or 3DSMax but I am not sure if it was supposed to be for TSC or TSW. I am not sure what it's current status is but I hope it is an indication that something for the LIRR will soon arrive
Man am kinda desperate for a new version of LIRR. I play Harlem Line and I still prefer LIRR as my favorite route over Metro North. If this signal problem wasn't an issue I bet this route would of been so fun to play 500+ services. Metro north you just go from point A to Point B and that's it. With LIRR there's extra branches to run on. With Metro North they really cheaped out. They could of at least add Hudson line along with Harlem line
Wow, it’s been a while since I replied I think it would be really cool as I learned from my previous mistakes that it’s pretty big and most unlikely to happen but may be possible for TSW4 now I understand this game hasn’t been announced or anything like that but I’m just saying for something this size this is probably where it would come out for once again I know it hasn’t been announced I’m just saying. But Oysterbay branch and Port, Washington branch and now the new Grand Central branch would also be pretty cool to see as well. I’m pretty sure Port Washington was originally supposed to be for Long Island Rail Rd., but got cut for some reason same with Oyster bay if you’re asking, how do I know Oyster babies cut? If you go and freak him by Mineola, you can go down the oyster bay line till you hit East Williston which train crossing is still there now if you’re wondering why would that be important? My answer is they wouldn’t put a RAW across in there if they weren’t planning something for it what I think happened was they were just beginning to making Oysterbay route and probably got caught up in time and had to release the route as is but it would be pretty cool to see Oyster Bay so we could drive the DE 30 units which I’m pretty sure everyone’s had heard me repeat the same stuff over and over and for Port Washington. I’m pretty sure there was some history for that because if you go down the track for Port Washington, you see some graffiti one or 2 miles down the line or something like that just like Oysterbay but without the railroad crossing this, I cannot be 100% certain on, but it’s a hunch, but I hope everyone has a great day/night. Thanks for reading my comment and yeah.
Just to give some perspective on the feasibility of creating the entire LIRR map, you're talking over 700 miles of track with 125 passenger stations, about 75 interlockings, at least 30 yards, 3 classes of EMUs and 4 classes of diesel locomotives, all with different types of signaling systems that would need to work together. Montauk station is at milepost 114.9, but thats just the distance on one track on one branch. Add up all the tracks from all the branches and its over 700 miles worth of track. Even if possible, it would take years of development and would require ridiculously high specs to run smoothly. Not to mention with all the time required to develop such a monumental undertaking, the price would be insanely high, well above that of any other DLC, probably worth a few hundred dollars minimum. With that said, they should build the Oyster Bay branch and add the DM30AC and/or DE30AC to the game (preferably DM30AC since they can go to Penn). Adding diesel would add variety and a new experience to the route. The Oyster Bay branch features some great scenery and challenging grades, as well as an automatic block signaling system with no automatic speed control, which is one of the few parts of the railroad to feature such an arrangement.
If dovetail would make the Cannonball to run to Montauk I bet it would make dtg a lot of Money, I know I would purchase immediately. I would even purchase if they ran electric to Babylon, cmon dtg LET'S DO IT.
exactly... even now with LIRR 2.0 out, it is almost frying certain PCs, and thats only a fraction of the whole network... for whole network you would probably need to set up a standalone TSW title, like TSW: LIRR and gradually add separate DLCs or sth... or you would need to harness the processing/rendering capabilities of several PCs to run it ... not that I dont love me some network style DLCs with lots of possibilities to run services, but this as a whole is just not possible... and after release of 2.0, I highly doubt they are going to extend it even more any time soon
