the picture here is the spec for my gaming laptop. And sadly I don’t understand spec stuff so I hope somebody could check if my spec are more than enough to run TSW if I ever buy it.
Your processor and RAM should be fine so long as they're not throttled when in low power mode, but the CPU is the missing component here and that might cause you issues A better indication of your specs on PC can be obtained as below: Hold the windows key and press R You will be given a "run box" Delete anything in there already and then type DXDIAG (doesn't have to be caps), click OK If asked if you want to check for signed drivers click whatever the positive option is You will be presented with a screen like this This shows the same sort of info as you've posted. Notice at the top you also have "DISPLAY" options (my machine has two listed) Click DISPLAY 1 - mine looks like this If you have more than one, send pics of both so we can have a look
I think this laptop comes with a discrete GTX1650 GPU. It's also possible to come without one, since the CPU has onboard Radeon Graphics, although you could hardly call it a Gaming laptop if so.
There's no such thing as a gaming laptop in my opinion and it's a term applied by manufacturers to make you think it's better than other laptops I always take such things with a huge dose of salt, so would be checking either way One reason never to trust in the mainstream PC sellers...
There are some gaming laptops out there (have you seen this one?) Unfortunately, you are correct: most items sporting the "Gaming" tag are not worthy of that tag, or no better than the corresponding item that doesn't have the tag. Like chairs, for example. Your advice on how to check the hardware is great, and should help OP to find out exactly what they have.
I hadn't, but to me that's still just a high specced laptop (for now). Why is that any better at gaming than another laptop of a similar spec not marked as "gaming"? Is that laptop only good for gaming but utter trash for XL or internet browsing? Will it run minesweeper out of the box? And why the heck did MS decide to remove the calc program from windows 11 as default? All these things are a mystery Don't let MS know that, else they'll remove the functionality in the next build and we'll all be left guessing
For me, the difference between a laptop and a gaming laptop is similar to the difference between a chair and an electric chair. It can do everything the regular one can do, but it can also play games. And no, I'm not counting Minesweeper as a game here. Of course, it's up to each buyer to decide how good a gaming laptop is at playing games, because marketing will not stop sellers from slapping the "gaming" label on anything they want to sell. High specs can mean different things to different people. You might recall this "yardstick" that we used not too long ago:
#irony That's exactly the point. High Spec & "gaming" are just terms used by sales people to get us to pay them money, the same as any food which has "delicious" in front of it. I don't care how delicious they think their laptops are, they might well still be dog food
It’ll do. Higher end settings will defo drop the FPS though. Have a tinker around to get the best balance of frames - detail.
Your laptop has two graphics cards, the device that is displaying the images on the screen. One of them is integrated with the CPU, and is called Radeon Graphics, appearing under Display 1 in the DX Diag tool. This is very weak for gaming purposes: sufficient for browsing the internet, watching videos, office work, but not for graphics intensive loads, like games. The second one is the Nvidia GTX 1650. This is capable of intensive graphics, i.e. games, but it is not a high spec unit. You should be able to play most games, but don't push the settings to High or Ultra. Depending on game, you might have to use Low or Medium settings. For TSW3, I would recommend to try Medium or High settings, but make sure you drop the Sky to Low. This is the most demanding feature, even for high end graphics processors.
Agree with yardem The two GPUs you have are very much different in power and most notably memory (even though they also share the main RAM) There is a way of ensuring the game uses the high powered output card so recommend that, and then you have options... Depending on how fluid you want the movement of the game will dictate how high the in game settings you want to apply The higher the settings the more power your GPU will need to run it Also remember that when you are running on battery, many laptops throttle the processes to preserve battery, so you'll get best performance when the laptop is plugged in and above a certain percent battery charged
then my laptop might not be able to run the game at a very smooth frame like others ? If i do want the full experience of the game. I will have to get a better and more powerful laptop?
Desktop Laptops are by their nature less powerful in certain circumstances and certainly less upgradable than a desktop PC
Personally, I have never understood the need for a powerful laptop. If you need to play games on the go, get a handheld. If you want to play games while on vacation at your in-laws, like it happens to me, pack your XBox. I used to haul the XBox One X, but now I plan to buy a Series S for this purpose. The Series X is just too big.
If you want a good performance, you will need a gaming desktop and it will cost you at least Euro 2000. The alternative is to play on a console. I have a "gaming laptop"which had a price ticket of Euro 1200 3 years ago and I can play TSW with it but two problems: Relatively low graphics settings and even then not very high frame rates and the SSD is far to small for this game.
if control wise, (like as the driver you walk around and navigate around a map). Playing on which one is better? PC or Console?
I never played a console. What I hear is the the last generation consoles performs almost as good as a game PC. What you will miss are modding options. But on the other hand, it is far cheaper to step in and you must think carefully if it is worth it to buy an expensive desktop.
I play on both PC and console (XBox). From a control point of view, the only difference is the mouse: not supported on XBox, you must use the controller thumbstick to point at things in the cab, which can be a bit daunting. When I play on PC, I still use the XBox controller for most things, but can easily reach out for the mouse when I need to operate some buttons in the cab, e.g. small switches, buttons on displays. From a pricing perspective, there are two aspects to consider: 1. Starting point: buying a PC is more expensive than buying a console. But this is because of console prices being artificially kept down by their respective makers, as they want to lock you into their ecosystem, where you will pay them on subscriptions and content. See (2) below. 2. Ongoing costs (prices of subscriptions/licenses): it is cheaper to buy content on PC than on consoles, and the sales on Steam are happening a lot more often than the sales on consoles. Personally, I prefer the XBox console over Playstation because of the Play Anywhere concept: for many titles, buying one license covers both PC (through the XBox app, not Steam) and XBox. Plus, the GamePass Ultimate subscription offers incredible value for both PC and XBox.
if i were to look for getting a desktop or a gaming laptop (i am currently out of my country right now so a laptop is more preferable) What sort of a spec am i looking at to run TSW at a smooth rate?
The one you've listed is fine to run TSW, but the point here is that you may need to turn down from ultra settings, or be aware of your battery life etc etc It will run, and likely be stable for the most part, but laptops are not the same as PCs for the reasons listed so it's about what you need to change to make the game run "smoothly" and what "rate" you're expecting. You won't get 4k @ 60fps from any laptop where the CPU and GPU are being throttled because you've been playing a heavy use route for 90 minutes and your battery is at 10%
Hard to say, I saw a nice laptop, which will cost you Euro 6500 in the Netherlands. This would do the job, but it is very expensive. I have seen another one that seems reasonable, but the SSD is only 1Tb and that is the main issue why I bought a custom built desktop. No desktop or laptop had a enough storage for a heavy trainsimmer. You need about 1Tb for your system nowadays and at least 2Tb for data into my opinion to have something for the next 5-6 years.
They are usually built with better cooling systems for sustained loads and higher refresh rate displays compared to laptops with similar specs, e.g. 'Creator' laptops. They are also much cheaper because they use consumer GPUs instead of Quadro or Radeon Pro, which have huge markups for 'professional' customers. Just compare any Lenovo Legion gaming laptop with a similarly-specced ThinkPad. Don't be daft. Cheers
Lenovo Legion laptops are higher specced, it's the "gaming" tag I have issue with And the tag is as daft as my (ironic) question.
Since GPU prices got ridiculous I switched to getting a new laptop every few years with the latest generation of discrete GPUs. It's convenient in being able to continue using stuff on public transport or wherever I go away from home, and when I get home I plug in the USB dock that each room in my place has at the desk, connecting its keyboard, mouse, headphones and Ethernet, and hook up the displayport-out to the VRR monitor and it's good to go as if it were a desktop. I also pack my Series S for console gaming, but it's nowhere near as powerful as my laptop, expected since it cost 1/4 of the price. When I visit my partner, my bag can easily carry my laptop, Series S, and Ayaneo without the weight bothering me. I use them for different things. The Aya can be handily carried between rooms and used in bed or on the toilet, but is only around on a par with the Series S (at three times its cost, the price of portability) the laptop can be used for all my work needs, something the console doesn't deliver but the Aya can equally be used for in its docked mode, the Series S is of course a dedicated gaming system I can pick up and play while doing work or watching a video on the laptop, and the laptop basically matches my Series X (at a bit more than twice the price, but again, paying for stuff like the integrated 165hz 1440p VRR display, etc) for gaming performance thanks to having a comparable GPU from the same family, and can run those Sony games like HZD and Death Stranding that don't exist on XBox and which the Aya needs FSR2 balanced mode to get 60fps in at 1200p.
Because most "tags" are just sales technique, and they annoy me In this instance, a "gaming" laptop isn't worse at other things and not necessarily better at gaming than other laptops of a similar spec The colour of the case and so on makes little difference. The spec of the display may well do, but for the most part laptops I've seen as "gaming" have very little difference to laptops which are not gaming... and any gaming laptop with less than 32Gb of memory, to me is laughable
Most actual "gaming" laptops come with one upgradeable m.2 slot with the system drive in it, but also a second slot into which you can easily slip something like the 4TB Firecuda sitting in mine. It's basically the first upgrade you probably need to do on a laptop you intend to keep your gaming library on. You can get one (Mine, for example) for around the £950-1100 mark here in the UK right now with a decent RX 6000 or RTX 3000 series discrete GPU that'll run most recent games at 1440p 60fps, though as more games need more than 4GB of dedicated VRAM, that's going to hold up less. Basically it's a system for running the games that already exist, not the ones that are on the way. Also expect the string of utterly garbage, terribly optimised UE4 titles to continue, which struggle even on an RTX 4090. Looking at you Gotham Knights, Fallen Order, and Redfall.
the laptop i currently use, for most of the time i just have the battery plugged in the entire time, usually when i bring the laptop out i dont play power heavy needed games. (Either Minecraft, trainz or derail valley). and i simply use it to do work whenever its outside its charging plugs. So when if i do play TSW on a laptop. i would usually play it with battery plugged in. However still spec is still an issue and i want to play the full experince of TSW.
