Come on now DTG you really need to get your sht together. After being disappointed by the loco not having working GMRS radio especially after what Matt wrote in the "Check List" thread I thought what the heck it's only the price of a pint and decided to give it a go anyway. Imagine my dismay when the very first scenario I tried "out with the old" was incompletable. due to stopping point at Dartford
They just said on stream that the brake translator took priority and the team ran out of time for the GSMR.
Not good enough. The way this company does business is just so totally messed up I can’t get my head around it. ‘Ran out of time’. Give me a break.
It is completable... you just overshot the stopping marker as it's mid platform. And due to the fairly short nature of the train, the rear of the train isn't on the stopping point if you pull up to the end of the platform.
The freights stop in the middle of the platform at Dartford as it is simulating a driver change-over. The drivers usually wait wherever the station building is or near the footbridge so they dont have to walk far and stay dry.
Do you know how the industry works? This is how they all operate. You have deadlines to meet and if certain features have to be cut they are.
This goes back to my prior comment on the lack of quality in recent DLCs this is why I stopped buying them The last few DLCs have just been brutal like I'm not sure if they're time-crunching or what they're doing but they need to stop whatever they're doing and resync how they're doing this stuff because it ain't working clearly
Whilst understanding that GSM-R would be something that doesn't change how the train works, interacts, operates or in any fashion adds to how the things move, stop moving or operate generally, EVERY TRAIN in the UK has had one of these units for years, they're all basically the same in operation and configuration so "make one box, stick it in every unit, make it in the core game" would satisfy a lot of people What I want to avoid here is that DTG develop a GSM-R for the class 323, then another for the 465, then another for the 395 ad nauseum... Make 1 box, put it in as a slottable item into every UK train running in a route since 2007 and then if new fucntions are added it goes onto all of them straight away Given there's no interaction with anything other than the power on and off system in the trains I don't see this as a technical marvel requiring months of dev time.
I am not bothered by the lack of GSM-R personally. I have this add-on it sounds good to me, like a class 37 and the modelling and livery are nice. The only odd thing I can see is that a couple of times I haven't seen it in service mode as AI traffic. I wanted to watch it doing some shunting at Gillingham depot but it didn't appear when I was expecting it.
Indeed. It's not so much that the content releases incomplete or broken, it's the total apathy that seems to permeate going back in and actually fixing things. Just look at BBO (and now West Rhine) with the broken level crossings, not (AFAIK) even acknowledged by DTG. The route(s) should be sent back to the author(s) with instructions to fix ASAP on pain of withholding royalty payment and/or being invited to work on any TSW projects again. This stuff ain't cheap and they need to raise the game. Other than Niddertalbahn which I'm still intending to buy tomorrow (if I can drag myself off a Fallout 4 replay) and maybe Peak Forest, I don't buy anything new on release and even think twice about the sale price, Birmingham Cross City still being on my dither list.
The excuse of running out of time is wearing extremely thin now. I’m fast running out of patience with this company. They’re simply NOT listening to us!
Exactly. As I said, a disproportionate amount of return for the minuscule amount of time it would require to make it work. Having watched some of last night’s stream I came away with 2 conclusions; 1) I hate to say it, but Matt is full of it. He clearly says one thing one minute and another the next depending on the audience. Where he has talked previously about a checklist and wanting to set a consistent standard across DLC, his response last night to the GSM-R question was almost the complete opposite 2) There was effectively a tacit admission that someone, somewhere in DTG sets a target release date for a given DLC and it gets released on that day come hell or high water, ready or not What a way to carry on.
Anyone who has watched DTG releases for more than a few cycles (maybe six months) would understand that this is the case. The production team definitely ISN'T driving the development schedule. I believe the checklist has been out a few weeks at most, this pack would have been in development for at least a few months. On the outside it looks like a repaint and add some bobbins in the cab, but likely there's been a lot more done "under the skin" to the 37 to make it what it is now (in ROG form anyway) Unfortunately whilst everyone knows that Matt's passion is high, and his job title is also high, not quite sure how much input he actually has nowadays given half the time on stream the answer is "I'll have to ask" and much of the rest is either "no" or "not on the roadmap"
My understanding (which of course could be wrong) is that the ‘checklist’ has been around a long time. It hasn’t been updated in a while which was mentioned in that thread, but the premise and intention of it is long standing. To come here and say ‘you should hold us to the standard when we add something new’ then last night say ‘blah blah blah, not important, ran out of time’ is just BS. Nothing more, nothing less.
This feels like something new starting with the release of TSW3 in a shabby state. Everything subsequent feels like one after another go go go rush out the door with less content, more bugs, rushed quality at a higher price. With so much being rushed out, are there even enough people left over to go back and do proper fixes to bring the quality back up or is it just going to be few larger bug fixes then abandonware the DLC as the rush continues on to the next? Only they know if this method is generating the expected sales targets. If so, look for this model to continue going forward.
I think the last 3 months have just been a mess, a blatant cash run by DTG at the end of the financial year. Can’t wait for the inevitable “we’re really sorry bla bla we’ve learnt not to do things this way bla bla”. So many shortcuts have been taken in recent DLC’s, and as JetWash has said, it’s hard to take anything DTG says at face value when they backtrack after selling you a product. It’s even worse when they say things like “ran out of time” - you didn’t run out of time DTG, you never took the time to do it. Then there’s the BR 103 model issue “we used the wrong one, yeah it’s a shame” LOL, ok guys. Let’s be honest, their stream said it all when they didn’t even bother to play through much of the content and instead went off to play BCC. Now we have a good amount of DLC that needs patches, which DTG will complain about not having time to do, asif it’s anyone’s fault but theirs. It’s not even just the bugs and omissions of features, it’s simple gameplay like service layers and substitution, NYT missing a massive amount of NJT services, absolutely no LIRR traffic. Mainz-Koblenz having some weird “didn’t want to use this as it’s too modern, but here’s a modern ICE layer” excuse when it came to freight locos and the BR 101. This new DLC which offers very poor use of the new SD70 & Wagons, the ICE liveries which are only available on KWG, the 375 livery which is only available on SEHS & the 37 ROG which only got a handful of services on SEHS, unlike the RHTT which got much better use. The whole thing is just an obvious get as much out as fast as possible, then complain about having no time to do anything.
Trouble with running out of time is... I have friends in the games and film industry, if the project has a strict deadline, you'd have to move heaven and earth to get a delay, unless there is a major problem. If it's a minor thing, usually its a "scratch that, we don't have the time"
Please stop complaining, guys. You´ve got (some) working lifts, moths, tough weather resistant passengers with umbrellas carrying no luggage, very popular baseball caps in Germany, 3D clouds, sparks, (sometimes too) dynamic weather, snow wash FX and .................................... (some) working lifts, moths, tough weather resistant passengers with umbrellas but carrying no luggage, very popular baseball caps in Germany, 3D clouds, sparks, (sometimes too) dynamic weather, snow wash FX and ................... Yeeehaaawww.
That's been my philosophy since September. Money stays with me until they feel like putting out quality.
Better is if you check the stoppingpoints... You have to stop ealier at the platform and the train on the right is moving and you have to reverse back in the yard behind What a nagging from some users here really to get sick of. Please remember before you post such things... You are sending such a wrong signal and scaring off buyers while you are the one who is doing it wrong
The services are set to show up during certain months of the year rather than having all 10 running at the same time. I can’t remember which service shows up what month off the top of my head, one of the articles details it though.
I honestly do think that DTG listen to us. No seriously they do pretend to. But then they opt to ignore us and brush our suggestions and bug reports under the carpet! At least Rivet take our bug reports seriously, and put them in game fluttering around the odd lamppost to hopefully keep us all amused and happy! Too damn right! Imagine how bad E-G would have been without the lifts and moths? It doesn't bare thinking about. The route could have been a disaster? Back to the topic, the 37, I thought it was supposed to be available in TV and NTP? Did I get it wrong?
Nope as it's too modern for those time periods. None of the class 37s have been available to use on NTP except for in scenario planner.
There are different traffic patterns for the different months of the year. You can find them in the Dovetail Live article for the loco pack 2.
See, I get all 10 in one go, irrespective of the month. I don't know why, but it also happens with the RHHT too.
Okay strange, I shall play around a bit more later. I saw it once at Rochester just around its departure time. It obviously shows up when I drive it.
I've always liked the 37, and I certainly enjoy the chance to flog the old mule around Kent (and doing what it was meant to, not a railtour!). But there is a problem- AWS and TPWS seem not to work. I had them turned on, but not a bell, not a horn, not a sunflower.
An updated 37 along with a modded 375 and timetable layer for £4.99. Im all for this. There are some high quality releases coming. The new rural German route looks fantastic. Maybe if we make that a success, DTG may consider some future releases being done more carefully.
Your right thats why I changed the title to UN-REFUNDED. I also didn't mention the following 1. The coupler as no electrical connection to the EMU, so shouldn't work 2. The "dead" EMU you are pulling as working PIS and working interior lights 3. The "Dead" EMU you are pulling as regen brake sounds when you brake 4. The "Dead" EMU as rear brake lights on but in real life should have a tail lamp as its dead
Haven't checked TPWS but AWS definitely working for me on the 5X47 run... Bells and buzzers both Just brake checked the TPWS coming into the red just before Gravesend, definitely works
Shouldn't the brakes be working because thats the entire point of the brake translator? Or is your point just based on the fact that the translator shouldn't work because the electrical connection isn't visible?
