Upcoming Release Köln - Aachen Timetable Update - Out Now On Steam!

They released the timetable 'accidentally on purpose' to PS4 players and we haven't had a stampede of 8th gen players swarm the forums complaining of a broken route or frequent crashes.

TSW5 finally got toggles to switch on/off individual layers as well as a host of other core patches, is there any actual reason to not let 9th gen and Epic have it?

has anyone from DTG actually said anything to explain why it is being released for Steam and no other platform? Even epic, which is also PC. But especially as the PS4 have the update why not the PS5?

Nothing about this release makes sense and I think DTG should just say what's what so we can all stop sitting here on out phones/computers speculating on how DTG are 'being DTG again'

 

Its a passion project of a known DTG developer. As long as he thinks it needs time for each different build of the game then it will be like this. Nothing with "DTG is DTG again" so i suggest to stop complaining as it probably gets new infos for full release in the May Roadmap. It wont take much to wait for something that wasnt even expected to get news until the roadmap release.

 

I assume the journey mode wont be updated?

 

As far as I am aware, the peak forest update and 104 is still.being worked on.

Hentis

 

The developer said himself it was not his decision:

 

Perhaps this delay in releasing the new schedule is the reason that DTG already has some solution to blurry textures on consoles.

 

It's literally DTG doing a DTG again, making a decision that seems on the face of it to be a rather silly and/or short sighted decision and then just leaving the community to debate what's actually going on. Literally all it would take is for Dovetail to just say what's going on, which would take 1 post and what, 5 minutes.

If they want it to be stress tested on Steam first, say that.
If they want to/need to work out console layer kinks, just say that.
If it's an issue with MS/PS certification, say that.

But saying absolutely nothing at all and just letting us all try and guess and argue over what's going on is (imo) the worst decision.

To my mind the issue seems to be that PS4 players received it, accidentally admittedly, but the fact that it's ONLY steam and PS4 kinda just makes it sting even more. It might not be ideal or what DTG want but at this point the only option is to just fully release it - or not, and let 8th gen players have something your actions imply isn't ready for 9th gen consoles even.

 

Also - just to point it out that PS4 players got the Koln Aachen timetable update before they even had BPB fixed.

The Koln Aachen timetable works on the PS4 and I can play it (admittedly with hardly any layers as I only own 3 German routes) but I need to go on my PS5 to play Blackpool Branches.

So, yeah. It's a mess.

 

I personally wouldn't say anything until everything is working properly. If there is a fix for blurry textures, I would wait until the fix is tested and certified by the publisher.

 

Wait the update is released for PS4?

 

I find the complaining about release of this amusing.

Consoles usually get new DLC releases a good 7-8 hours before the PC platforms. The shoes on the other foot this time and PC is getting the timetable first, suddenly a line is crossed.

Those calling for the PC release to be held until consoles get it for parity reasons should also then be asking DTG to hold console release times for any new DLC to match the release time on Steam because that too is parity, no?

With that aside…

DTG really don’t help themselves. They add the staggered release as a little note on the article, it should’ve been noted on the headline specifically that it is a Steam-only release for now. They’re probably reading this thread with shocked Pikachu faces at the moment…

As for the timetable, it sounds fantastic! Looking forward to driving it. The only thing holding it back is the route not receiving any form of update in the style of the UK remasters.

Before I carry on, I know Joe is the timetable guru and I really appreciate his efforts on the timetable.

You’d think DTG would see the hard work he’s put in and provide some additional resource to upgrade the route to TOD4 and do some scenery upgrades to bring the route itself up to the standard of more recent German releases.

It just feels like a missed opportunity to upgrade the route, which would’ve elevated the hype for Joe’s amazing timetable too.

 

The reason for a delay might be down to getting certified going off what Trainsimulaterdriver (Paul) said in his stream but he doesn't now what's going on for epic games

 

There is a big difference between platform releases being at different times because of the schedules of those platforms, and a deliberate plan to stagger releases. There is also a big difference between a few hours difference when you know what to expect, and a few days (? weeks?) when you don't.

As you say, I'm sure there are good reasons, but this is a failure of communication of DTG's part.

Also, while I'd like to have seen a full route refresh, I want to see more timetable updates, and wouldn't want to see them delayed, or not done at all, because more work needs to be done. This is a staggered release that makes sense to me.

 

Yeah, DTG need to be more transparent with this stuff. No good dropping that vague line in an article then leaving people getting angry over the weekend.

If not a full remaster, they should’ve at least upgraded the route to TOD4 lighting and skies. The headlights on the post-TSW2 stock will look awful, especially at night. You can see they’ve tried to cover this up in one shot by putting the TSW5 logo over it.

They’ve had TOD4 since TSW3, I personally believe all the older routes should’ve been upgraded to it by now.

 

I think the frustration here is the "it will come later" when that could be anywhere from a week to never (see PF and 104 disappearing off the roadmaps and never being spoken of again on stream)

Dovetail know why they didn't release it, so they should just say. Otherwise we can make up our own reasons and who's to say we are wrong? Dovetail?

"we didn't release it to epic as we are dropping epic support"
"we didn't release it to consoles because TSW6 is coming and we need a reason to sell that game"
"we didn't release it to epic or consoles because we don't want to and they should just get PCs already"

Prove me wrong Dovetail.

 

A fiver says the update is delayed until TSW6 for console users and will be a core route so we have to pay for it. Wouldn't put it past DTG to do that nonsense.

 

the update just released so how does it look rn with all those new services for steam players?

 

DTG really needs to get on top of the memory leak problems.

The fact that certain routes/timetables can only run properly on PC is purely down to the way PCs handle running out of memory, they start dumping any extra data onto the hard-drive/SSD instead, consoles don't allow that.

While a minimum spec PC with 8GB system/2GB graphics RAM can run the game, it's only because the memory leak is spilling over onto the hard-drive, which tanks performance, but it runs. Meanwhile a 16GB console can't run the game because once the memory leak fills that 16GB it either compensates by blurring the textures, or just crashes.

While someone with a 64GB PC and 24GB graphics card is never going to notice the memory leaks, sitting here defending DTG claiming it's a console problem rather than a coding one is a very blinkered take on reality.

 

Me watching everyone enjoy the new timetable

 

Uh ? Class 700?

 

Spoiler

Deliveries from Wildenrath maybe?

Lovely touch if so Joethefish

 

Still surprised that dtg are radio quite on a reason for console and Epic not getting the update. Just saying we going to continue to test these platforms as surely epic games version should be the same as steam. It doesn't look like its 100% on the current tsw being a crashing issue on console.
The up should of been delayed on steam to let everyone get it at the same time.

 

EXACTLY my thoughts. And given Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn... A new train isn't required for a new route anymore either. So matches perfectly.

But joking aside, "later" is a concerning term given its dtg. It must mean its nowhere ready to release on consoles, although i recon its not coming to epic either, its possible that steam players have to play beta tester now before continuing with the rollout.

 

All of this 100%!

 

Since TSW4 the memory leak is a problem & in general bad optimization.
Obviously, i do not have state of the art computer. But it runs most games at Max/ultra settings & most of them above 60fps + surprisingly runs Cyberpunk 2077 max settings at around 45-60 fps (all games Natively 1080p, no AMD FSR).
The only redeeming thing about the game is the "-dx12" launch argument (Epic version), which kinda saves it a bit but still stuttering like hell.

 

PS5 just got its second core update of the day.

 

That's because the first update caused WCML South and the Pendolino to vanish from the menu, perhaps we would be better off with them taking the time to test things on consoles.,,

 

Oh sweet Jesus, Koln with new timetable, GWE remaster and all we need is a "new thing" for an old US route and we have our TSW6 launch routes. Lolol jokes but almost not really

 

What now? WCMLS and Pendo are gone?

 

TOD2 hurts my eyes

 

Will we get any news from dovetail today I wonder on what is going on on the release of Köln-Aachen new timetable for console and Epic Games or will it be another radio silence

 

I don't think they'll release it for consoles at all, because it would be a disaster anyway and we'd have everything in a blur at best......

 

But it's released for PS4 somehow

 

It will be released for the consoles. Just going through testing. How long that will take with other projects on the go no ideas.

Hentis

 

Had a quick go yesterday, Not using up to date Skys though takes a bit of shine off the release. Massive amount of work put in already I appreciate that.

 

Oh i didn't realize this route never got a TOD4 update. That's a shame i just can't go back to routes with the old system

 

It was released by accident On the ps4 earlier this month from what I have drove its unfinished version that was released. I have videos on the time from the ps4 version running on a ps5 with all required dlc I didn't have all subs available in like DB 155 in red and expert 101 installed I have now deleted the ps4 version.
My runs on the timetable are linked below
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLinhMg8tN8LtisaG2CqlEfGP6BEQP8mvj&si=cM_Nm5c5tN-5I7Ym