Lavori Per Tsw E Tsc Per Dtg.

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  1. davide.sfredda

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    Good morning, I would like to post here saying that DTG should also work for TSC making new DLC and not just for TSW. There is no way that DTG should only work for TSW making DLC only for TSW. It just doesn't exist. There is absolutely nothing, it doesn't exist. I would like DTG to work for both games and not for one YES and the other NO. Where is it written that DTG should only work for TSW. Where is it written? Nowhere is it written. It is not written anywhere that DTG should only work for TSW and not for TSC. The TSC game, Train Simulator Classic, is a game that was created and developed by them at DTG and therefore I really don't see why they shouldn't make other new DLC. If it is a game invented and developed by DTG, they should make other new DLC also for TSC and NOT just for TSW. It is not a priority for DTG to work only for TSW. It is not a priority. TSC also needs other new DLC and not just TSW. Please listen to me for once.
     
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    OMG, not again !!!
    You ranting on this forum on a regular basis is going to achieve absolutely NOTHING / ZILCH / NIENTE.
    What part of this are you struggling to understand?
    Just please stop these absolute nonsensical rants, you are becoming increasingly tiresome and nobody but nobody is ever going to take you seriously.
     
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    The game was not invented by DTG - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Simulator
    Check your facts before posting drivel
    However TSW was invented by DTG and they continue to make additional DLC for that game.
     
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    No No take me absolutely seriously and I'm not joking. I would absolutely like to be taken seriously. Here either you understand and understand me or we do it as I wrote. There is no need to say: "ah you're boring" there is nothing to say. Absolutely No. I would like to solve the problem.
     
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    TSC was also invented by DTG Yes, it was invented by DTG. Let's tell DTG right away to make DLC for TSC too and not just for TSW.
     
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    You know that almost 90% of DLC's available on Steam has always been from other providers.....
     
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    No, it was most definitely developed by Kuju and published by EA as Rail Simulator in 2007. DTG didn't take over until 2009, when they began modifying the game and released it on Steam.
     
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    TSC is a cash cow. DTG has no intention to plough any more development money into it. They retain it just to make more money on what they already have. They do NOT intend to spend any more money on product development. If you want new stuff you will need to leverage RSSLO and other European vendors. Their products are sound. They DO NOT have viruses in their software. They have some really cool new products and routes and also have a sale on just now!
    https://www.rsslo.com/
     
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    The BR633 Pesa Link - I am driving this just now on the Allgaubahn Route.

    You can view what is available on my web site:
    https://sites.google.com/view/trainsimulatorcontent/home

    All of this product (DTG/RSSLO/GBE/Chris Trains/Justtrains/ArmstrongPowerhouse) has ZERO viruses. I have validated and driven them all! I keep away from 3rd party non-official vendors and Workshop.

    Try and trust and you will be happy with the availability of the stuff you just cannot get via TSW. 400 km routes from RSSLO also! (Combo Routes)
     
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    I understand this but I do not take away the fact that the TSC game was produced by DTG and also Developed by DTG. The reasoning is flawless.
     
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    You guys don't understand anything. On Steam it says that the producer is DTG and the developer is always DTG. It says that on Steam and I see it well. Go to Steam and see that it says that.
     
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    WHAT RSSLO let's forget it, actually forget RSSLO. I don't even know what it is. Instead Yes I would really like that DTG since it is the developer of TSC made other DLC. I repeat that DTG is the developer of TSC also producer. So it is better to buy on Steam please listen to me. Even my dad told me that it is better to buy on Steam and not from websites. If DTG made new DLC I would always buy from there. I repeat again that it happened to me several times that the TSC game broke because of purchases from other websites. I don't want that to happen again.
     
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    unfortunately it is not what you think and you should also know that it is not what you think. You should really know this instead of standing here saying things different from what I say. Besides, what you say is not true. It is not true that websites have zero viruses. It is not true at all. And you should also really know this that it is not true that websites have zero viruses. It is not true. I have had problems with the TSC game several times because of these viruses inside these damned websites. You have to listen to me when I speak.
     
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    I read thru a ton of posts, and I feel like it's best to just ignore the OP, arguing with them isn't gonna change their mind.
     
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    So are you saying TSC created DTG who created TSW for DLC? I'm so confused what the ask is.
    There has to be a way to get a good coffee around here.
     
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    There is a lot of good coffee - just not from DTG. The OP is beyond help alas! If the OP wants DTG stuff then they should be consuming TSW product since TSC is decaffeinated.
     
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    What it says on Steam just isn't correct. I can point you to the EA store page for Rail Simulator if you want.
     
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    I want to ask Nicola/Davide, to give me a link to one DLC he purchased from Steam. I want to show him something
     
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    So from what I can decipher from the op's ramblings is that he will only buy stuff from DTG and only from Steam because his Dad told him to? And because DTG hasn't released anything for an age they are ripping him off?
    Also every third party seller is a virus ridden con merchant and everyone reading his ramblings knows that they can't trust their own thoughts and must listen to what he is saying because he knows the truth?
    If the op is really just going to rely on DTG stuff from steam then he is either very rich or his sim experience is so poor it has led to this state of paranoia. This hobby has been carried by third party devs for ever and the only reason it still exists is because of them, broaden your horizons and look at what other people are doing with their 'own thoughts' to make the sim look as good as it is now.
    Failing that go over to the sim where DTG is churning out all the new stuff you could desire along with plenty of third party devs and you can sit and play with Thomas The Tank Engine on the high speed Ashford line with your tin foil hat on.
     
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    That is why I want to have him give me a link. I have a feeling that the DLC he purchased might be from another provider, and not from DTG
     
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    I have to ask DTG for help on the email because here…….it's all a case of not understanding what I'm saying and so I have to ask DTG for help on the email again.
     
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    No, if anything the opposite. That DTG created TSC and TSW. That is true. DTG developed and created TSC and TSW. And I wish DTG would make DLC for TSC too and not just TSW. DTG's priority should be to make new DLC for TSC too and not just TSW.
     
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    You guys have a hard time understanding that DTG developed TSC and not just TSW. TSC and TSW were created and developed by DTG. They are BOTH created and developed by DTG. This, unfortunately, you have a hard time understanding. But I'm pretty sure that sooner or later you will.
     
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    How is that not correct! Of course Yes that is correct because DTG should make more new DLCs for both TSC and TSW games and not just one.
     
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    Do you see who developed that route? NOT DTG!!!!!!! Just Trains.

    You know that if you buy from Just Trains, you most likely will get more scenarios, and more enjoyment. And if there is an update to the route, it might be a while (months!!) before the Steam version gets updated.
     
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    I really don't understand and it is not clear why DTG should think that everything that is for Train Simulator and therefore not from Steam should be taken from outside and therefore on the internet. This really seems like a SCAM to me. It is a scam indeed it is a SHAME. It is a colossal shame. EVERYTHING THAT IS FROM DTG for Train Simulator Classic can be bought on Steam and only on Steam and not on the websites.... there are some websites that carry VIRUSES or that can corrode the TSC game as has already happened to me several times that PATHS, SCENARIOS AND LOCOMOTIVES that I had purchased on Steam a long long time ago went away. Going forward to buy on Steam it will never ever ever happen again that my TSC game breaks because Steam or DTG puts it in the right place and not in the wrong place. This is my real truth.
     
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    The whole game of TSC Yes is from DTG because they created it and developed it, then it is clear that the various DLCs are made by other people. But I would like to make it clear that the whole game TSC was created and developed by DTG. Let it be clear for everyone.
     
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    It is not a virus that destroys your game. I have never ever got a virus from any third party developer. What happened when you lost everything?
     
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    DTG did not develop TSC. They inherited it. DTG now belongs to a company that also makes other games, and it is in their financial interest to develop for TSW
     
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    How is that at all relevant to Kuju being the original developer of TS rather than DTG?

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    There's the store page for Rail Simulator. It's still up for £4.99.
     
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    If we look at the last 2 years of release in Steam. ZERO of these DLCs were made by DTG. They are ALL done by 3rd party. You will NEVER see a new DTG developed TSC item ever again. Wake up!!
     
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    The Op seems to think DTG made this game and not Kuju
     
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    Ok now we're getting to what you are actually trying to put across. Firstly third party developers have been producing content for TS since it's inception by Kuju. DTG inherited the software and developed their own content placing it for sale on Steam which you were happy to buy. The sheer size of content available by reputable devs means that very little of what you actually play is solely by DTG a FACT pointed out by your very own post linking to something you have bought from Steam which was developed by Just Trains. You cannot expect everything you want to buy for TS to be available on Steam and everything to be developed by DTG.
    If you actually look you will see that DTG is mostly a PUBLISHER NOT a DEVELOPER, DTG as a publisher choose to put it on Steam but the DEV can choose to add some more content to THEIR package and sell it on THEIR site. I really fail to see what you don't understand about how software development works.
    Finally the only reason you could have had issues with third party content is either you have tried to covertly obtain software that you wish to have but can't afford or there are issues with your ability to add assets to folder system, if you buy from reputable vendors ie. nearly all of them you will find that their anti piracy measures mean it will install itself and it's nearly impossible to get it wrong, unless of course you don't believe that the requirement list is worth bothering about and then complain it messes up your sim but that's another thing.
    I am still in the belief that you have no idea how the TS eco system really works and just to let you know ANYTHING you purchase on Steam will always be in your account to retrieve should you mess up your install, unless of course Steam catches you doing something naughty and closes your account, THAT is the way to 'lose' your purchases.
     
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    ^^ Bravo!!
     
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    To the OP.
    If you suspect viruses/malware you should be running some security software (Windows alone is pretty fair) (google)
    You should also clean up your system with windows diagnostics in case windows is at fault:
    sfc/scannow (Google)
    DISM commands (Goodle)
    dxdiag (the text file gives excellent info about possible issues)
    Clear the page file on closing Windows10/11 (Google)

    and if lavori per means anything
    Non tutte le ciambelle escono con il buco
    (not all donuts come out with holes)
    Not everything turns out as expected. Or
    Everything doesn’t always turn out as planned.
     
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    Yes, that's exactly why I lost almost everything in the game. Precisely because on some websites it is written that there is a virus or that the site has or carries viruses.
     
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    You didn't understand a thing and admit it you don't understand a thing. DTG DEVELOPED TSC it's always been like that even on Steam it says that TSC was developed by DTG. TSC also owns DTG and not just TSW. TSC and TSW both own DTG...that's enough please.
     
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    Nothing at all. TSC was produced and developed by DTG. DTG produced and developed TSC. dot and end stop.
     
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    I'm not interested in Rail Simulator. I'm interested in Steam with what DTG publishes and especially what they publish for TSC.
     
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    That the DLCs are made by other people or third parties OK that's fine but keep in mind that the entire TSC game was produced and developed by DTG. This is what I ask you to understand 100%. Thank you.
     
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    DTG created TSC and certainly not KUJU who I don't know who he is and I don't know what he is. He's not even a KUJU Developer. So don't make excuses.
     
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    Some time ago I tried to buy some DLC for TSC taken from outside on some websites but unfortunately and I say UNFORTUNATELY hoping you understand IT DIDN'T WORK. It didn't work because the site carried VIRUSES and maybe it could bring other viruses to my computer and then it could damage my TSC game by taking away various DLCs that I had purchased on Steam some time ago. And then I had to uninstall the game and reinstall it from Steam because of the virus that made my computer go completely haywire. Making me break the game as I said before. And for this reason I would NEVER EVER want to repeat this thing again so as NOT to damage the TSC game anymore.
     
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    THANK YOU!
     
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    I use McAfee as an antivirus on my computer. And McAfee when there is a virus is blocked by McAfee. As it should be. It seems to me a really good and right thing to do that if the computer has a virus the McAfee program blocks it or should block it. In my computer it works like this I don't know if it works differently in your computer. But in my computer it works like this that I use McAfee as an antivirus and therefore when the computer has a virus the McAfee program blocks it.
     
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    The original ‘Train Simulator' was developed by Microsoft in 2001. Kuju was the name of the software developer who was working for Microsoft. They later republished under the name Railworks.
    DTG purchased Railworks in 2008 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovetail_Games and released a new version each year under that name. In late 2022 they decided to use the name Train Simulator Classic to differentiate between it and TSW. At this point DTG stopped developing product for TSC and now only use 3rd party to provide product on Steam. As of now only about 20% of any new TSC can be found on Steam. The majority of new product can be found directly at the 3rd party vendor. Steam purchased product is simpler to acquire and download. McAffe does show a virus when downloading this software even though there IS No virus. We understand your concern. Do not expect DTG to provide much if anything on Steam for TSC. All of their effort is now with the TSW product. I personally will keep buying direct from Armstrong Powerhouse, Justtrains, RSSLO, VirtualRailroads, ChrisTrains who sell excellent product with zero viruses. You will do as you will. You will however be sorely disappointed if you expect DTG to act on your behalf.
    Respectfully
     
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    Are you confusing Microsoft Train Simulator with Railworks which are two different incomputable games.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Train_Simulator
    Even though Kuju did work on both games they are totally seperate
     
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    The developers behind Microsoft Train Simulator, Kuju Entertainment, later released a spiritual successor called Rail Simulator, which was later purchased by a separate company and rereleased as Railworks.
     
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    I believe (but cannot confirm) that someone on this forum claimed a few years ago that MSTS and Rail Simulator shared some code, or that Rail Sim was built off of MSTS. I can't remember where it was said or who said it, but if it was true I doubt they'd have much in common. GTA 5 has/had code from GTA San Andreas, for example.
     

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