Pretty straightfoward question here. Does TSW4 have Linux support? Asking because I am considering switching to Linux (Windows liscence basically about to run out and I do not really like windows that much anyway). I am use to Linux as it's what SteamOS (steam deck) is based on. Thanks in advanced.
Nope, sadly not, there are games which can be played on Linux but not that may. Whilst Linux is used by 87%+ of servers desktop usage is only 2%. I did see someone get TSW to work on Linux but only ran at low settings with issues around loading and water rendering. Linux is a much better OS overall with so many distros or flavours, I use Rocky, Mint, Ubuntu, Parrot and Kali. More secure too as the community often fixes vulnerabilities or bugs quicker than Microsoft with Windows.
This may be of help to you? This site basically gives you a summary of games which may or may not work on Linux, how well they work if they do, and how people got them to work. https://www.protondb.com/app/2362300
It will come, Windows has become 'bloatware' with WSL2 Microsoft have made Linux more integrated and supported. I can see that be furthered as we head towards Windows 12 'Next valley.'
I run TSW under Linux Mint and it works fine for me. I am willing to help anyone who wants to make the switch to Linux. I find a lot of games work fine with Proton nowadays.
I run TSW under Arch Linux using the most recent non-experimental release of Proton. It’s been mostly solid for me. As for making Linux actively supported, I doubt that it will happen, because that would force DTG into the position of having to provide support in a software landscape that is considerably more diverse than on Windows or OS X. Steam provides some common stuff, but there’s still plenty of variety outside of its environment, mainly a great many different releases of Mesa being used across various distributions. What they could do, though, is to announce that they will strive towards not introducing changes that would cause breakage on systems using Proton or Wine. It wouldn’t be quite as binding as making Linux officially supported, but it would acknowledge the existence of that part of the player base.
It’s a financial issue, really. Windows’ near-omnipresence has heavily standardised the common PC environment, with a common stack usually consisting of DirectX and various other stuff that are either included with Windows or are freely available to install. Thus it is relatively cheap to support because it’s made for a rather predictable environment to test software against during development. On the other hand, Linux as a complete package is really diverse because of its distributions, each having its own philosophy regarding its provided software packages. Those philosophies usually boil down to some balance between the most recent software with the very latest features and having older software that is known to be reliable. And those philosophies are applied throughout the distribution in question, from the Linux kernel up. Linux’ very diversity in allowing for a system that is mostly tailored towards its user might well be its Achilles’ heel when it comes to being embraced by commercial software developers, because a lot more has to be tested for and a lot more has to be considered when providing customer support. Those that do usually limit their support to particular distributions, often Ubuntu. And I can’t really blame them for it. And then of course there’s the chicken-and-the-egg matter: we are a very small part of the pc gaming community. We can grow with active support from major developers, yet we are practically invisible and thus not worth considering to support (most of the time). Don’t get me wrong, few things make me happier than seeing a game developer give Linux support, but I’m skeptical.
That will take a long time. Commercial OSses invest a lot so developers develop on there platform. So you get services developers start to rely on. Commercial stores like Steam don't sit so well with the Linux community. It will take a lot of "volunteers" to get gaming going on Linux and then still it could fail. Look at how big spenders like Apple can't get gaming popular on its desktops.
There are certainly some within the Linux community that don't like commercial stores. However, I would say there is a growing demand for gaming on Linux, especially since the Steam Deck runs Linux. I think this also applies to commercial software in general. If you search the internet for running any given piece of software on Linux, you'll probably find that somebody has at least asked about it.
The issue is still user base with 2% Linux desktop - it will be asked for by those like myself who think Linux is a great OS, however the demand is not out there for the effort v reward. Your average casual PC gamer will have most likely never used or even seen a Linux box. Whilst Proton is OK and it works with custom hardware (Steam Dock) to get it stable across the numerous configurations and constant change is a huge challenge for what is still a small market. It is a shame though but is what it is, as Windows has such a large market penetration and user base. Linux is growing rapidly on the server side - that may longer term translate to great desktop usage, who knows.
devsecops#8603 The linux market share is now at 4.04%, it's still low but twice the number you shared. I also wish for a native linux support, for now I run TSW4 using proton. I had to abandon TSC when switching to linux, not because the sim wouldn't run, but because of other useful (mandatory) tools I couldn't get running under linux. OP: I dual booted windows and linux for many years and the last thing holding me back was my train sims, so I decided to just use Proton for TSW, and it turns out it runs better under linux, at least on my OS which is OpenSUSE Leap 15.6.
Is that global market share? For gaming and probably other business too you can't just look at the global market share and present it as a viable market. If you want to sell a product you need consumers that can afford it or have means to pay. I can imagine Linux got a huge uptick in Russia for example where commercial OSses are blocked but as a business outside of Russia those users are monetarily useless for western developers.
Glad to see a rise it was 2.48% earlier this year and is the better OS. Linux has a much smaller footprint some distos better than others but compared to Windows is a different world and would run better. Compatibility and optimisation are the issues with hardware, some will run well others less so or simply crash.
It would be great to get TSW and TSC officially supported under Proton. There are actually advantages for this as there seems to be a lot of difficulty with seemingly minor changes in TSW breaking lots of stuff so porting is probably not with it the grasp of DTG. The nice thing about stuff like Proton is the ability to version freeze without forcing players to use old operating systems. Train Simulator Classic finally supports Windows 11 but it may get to the stage where it can’t run on say Windows 15; Wine can be run on windows too so could give legacy support in the future as a way to preserve software. I would definitely prefer to have Linux on my old but fast Workstation that doesn’t support Windows 11 that I use just for train simulators. Steam Play (Proton) would do nicely.
TSW works absolutely fine for me via Steam on arch linux. Even the PC editor can be used e.g. via heroic games launcher after copying some files around.
TSW4 runs correctly and smoothly with Linux. Sometimes I think it even runs faster with Linux, although it suffers from many of the same issues as with Windows (stuttering despite high FPS) Also, the TSC works perfectly. My system: openSUSE Tumbleweed Intel Core i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz x8 16GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB It would probably run even better on a computer with a Radeon graphics card (AMD, unlike NVIDIA, gives full support for Linux). It would probably also be easier to play on a more gaming-oriented Linux distribution like Garuda Linux or Ubuntu (which are ready for gaming straight out of the box). However, on openSUSE I also had no issues. I just had to manually install NVIDIA drivers and the Steam client. I recently left the Windows environment because I am not able to accept Micrtosoft's policy. It's mainly about the heavy invasion of privacy, my personal comfort, home intimacy, freedom to administer my own home computer and so on. I think it's worth the risk to migrate to Linux. If anything, you can always go back to Windows. To be honest, fleeing from Windows I was preparing to find a hobby other than computer gaming (H0 railroad models? RPG board games?). To my pleasant surprise, there are literally a few games that either can't run on Linux at all, or that run really poorly. The same goes for utility software. And in fact, installing a game from Steam or GOG on Linux is no different than installing a game on Windows. Epic Store, EA App and Ubisoft Connect are also supported (although I don't have an account there so can't say more about it). I hope I have been helpful Actually, I was able to install add-ons from Armstrong Powerhouse in TSC with Linux. A little with the help of Wine, a little by hand, a little with the help of the publisher But it worked! I also successfully installed the EMD SD70ACu - NS add-on from JointedRail. So it can be done!
J.T. But have you been able to make the package installer and TS tools work ? antwerpcentral Yes, that is the global market share so the real number for gamers are probably lower. But with a rise in global market share you have to assume there is a rise in people wanting to play games on linux to, especially these days where people aren't looked down upon for gaming. Not a proven fact but there are a lot of people on the various subreddits that are using linux for gaming, and I see many new posts each day from new linux users that is also using it to play games, so I do get the impression it's a steadily growing number.
That is an irony I’ve been hearing again and again, these last few years: how games seems to generally run better with a piece of middleware than on the very OS the game was actually built for…
“I have a word for you: AMD.” Their GPU support has been absolutely stellar, the last few years. The amdgpu kernel module (or “driver”) has really matured and is part of the open-source Linux kernel code. NVidia, on the other hand… they are the butt of more than a few jokes in the wider community of Linux enthusiasts. And sadly, more than a few of those are quite accurate. I’ve become a bit of an AMD fangurl because of it.
I'm not sure if I understand which specific tools you are asking about, but it seems that on my openSUSE Linux they work. PS. Don't let the old-school look of my desktop scare you away. I'm a kind of a retro fan so my computer looks a bit retro too But it's also cool that on Linux my desktop and interface can look the way it suits me, not the way Microsoft dictates.
Only a couple of years ago AMD were the ones on the receiving end from NVIDIA loyalists... Great to hear and as I am now on a AMD GPU it is time to have a play again! I got offered a job with NVIDIA last year within cyber security but turned it down for another role. Apparently a great employer but some of their ethics like many tech companies seem to fall short at times.
I’m just happy to see that smiling chameleon, on the bottom left corner. SUSE was the very first distribution I had ever used, way back when. I might have moved on since, but it’s okay to feel a bit of nostalgia.
I ended up dual booting again so I could use TSTools and RWEnhancer 2, and many of my addons comes with installers. Once I get another ssd I will have SUSE on a separate drive..I'm just to much of a TS Classic junkie :p TSW will be on SUSE though as I experienced almost no stutter and more stable framerate. I'll probably just fill up my windows SSD with TSC and P3D addons and use windows for those games only. I like how your desktop looks, I like the old school look myself. I have been trying to make Plasma look like Plasma 4, but haven't found a good solution yet.
Me, I felt like Plasma 4 was a downgrade from KDE3. Haven't looked back since Plasma 5, though. ;-) Just to be pedantic: Steam's owner, Valve, has heavily invested in Linux support. First for their own games, and later for others'. Half-Life 2 was the first FPS I have owned and played solely on Linux.
