Route (lirr Port Jefferson Branch)

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  1. mta#3504

    mta#3504 New Member

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    Hello Everyone! I'm here to suggest adding the Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) Port Jefferson Branch as a new route for Train Sim World. Despite LIRR 2.0 already being part of TSW, this branch offers a unique experience with its mix of electric and diesel services, beautiful Long Island scenery, and commuter-heavy operations. Below, I’ll provide an in-depth look at why this branch—ideally extended from Hicksville to Port Jefferson—would be an incredible addition to the TSW franchise.

    Overview of the LIRR Port Jefferson Branch

    The Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) Port Jefferson Branch has a rich history dating back to the mid-19th century. Originally opened in 1868 as part of the North Shore route, the line was developed to connect New York City to the growing communities on Long Island’s North Shore. Initially, steam locomotives served the route, and over time, the LIRR expanded service to accommodate the increasing number of commuters from the suburbs to Manhattan. In the 1920s, the section up to Huntington was electrified, allowing faster and more efficient service. The branch 25 miles from Hicksville to Port Jefferson

    The line has maintained its dual character, with electric Multiple Units (EMUs) running from New York to Huntington and diesel services continuing from Huntington to Port Jefferson. Over the years, diesel-electric (DE30AC) and dual-mode (DM30AC) locomotives became central to Port Jefferson Branch operations, offering flexible service into New York Penn Station. Today, the branch remains an essential link for Long Island commuters, known for its scenic views, historic towns, and the unique blend of electric and diesel rail operations.

    For TSW, the ideal segment would extend from Hicksville to Port Jefferson, offering players the chance to drive along one of Long Island’s most scenic routes, complete with iconic diesel operations.
    This section of the branch runs through both dense commuter areas and quieter suburban towns, featuring a mix of express and local stops. On weekdays, trains primarily operate as diesel-powered services beyond Huntington, with most diesel trains starting from Huntington to Port Jefferson. On weekends, services are limited to this section, with trains running only between Huntington and Port Jefferson. Weekday services also include AI operations between NYC and Port Jefferson, with DM30AC-powered trains from Penn Station and some from Long Island City, and others terminating at Jamaica, creating a realistic commuter experience and showcasing the true complexity of the line. (These trains have also been suggested a lot by the community if you look at other forums for LIRR)

    Proposed Route Stops (Hicksville to Port Jefferson)

    1. Hicksville
    2. Syosset
    3. Cold Spring Harbor
    4. Huntington
    5. Greenlawn
    6. Northport
    7. Kings Park
    8. Smithtown
    9. St. James
    10. Stony Brook
    11. Port Jefferson
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    (PJ BRANCH MAP)
    This full list of stops would allow players to experience the variety of passenger demands and scenic changes that define the Port Jefferson Branch.

    Locomotives and Rolling Stock
    The ideal rolling stock for this route would feature the DM30AC and DE30AC locomotives, along with C3 Bi-Level Cab Cars. Here’s a breakdown of each:

    1. DM30AC (Dual-Mode AC): These unique dual-mode locomotives are capable of operating on diesel power for the bulk of the journey and switching to third rail electric power for travel through the East River Tunnels. In TSW, they would be perfect for representing weekday services to Penn Station as well as trips from Long Island City, creating realistic traffic patterns and simulating express services that connect directly to Manhattan.

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    (DM30AC AT PENN)

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    (DM30AC Diagram)

    2. DE30AC (Diesel-Electric): The DE30AC locomotives serve exclusively diesel routes and cannot go into Penn Station and are the backbone of the LIRR Diesels branches. Most DE30AC operations on the Pt Jeff branch begin at Huntington, handling local runs. These locos can be seen all around the Lirr's system. Their classic diesel engine sound and unique design would bring depth to the simulation, allowing players to drive the popular diesel services.
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    (DE30AC CAB) Couldn't find one of the train in service so this photo is from the Oyster Bay RR Museum) The DE3AC doesn't have a computer screen on top like that but otherwise everything is correct.
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    (DE30AC diagram)

    3. C3 Bi-Level Cab Car: The C3 Bi-Level Cab Cars are vital for the LIRR diesel operations, providing passenger seating and control car functionality. With bi-level seating, the C3 cars are built to accommodate high passenger volumes, perfect for commuter rush hours. These cab cars would allow players to experience both ends of the train, with detailed interiors and realistic operating functions.
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    (C3 COACH PHOTOS)
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    Kawasaki C3 Bilevel door chime : r/trains (C3 DOOR CLOSING SOUND)
    Since TSW already features some LIRR EMUs, these could be layered in as AI services between NYC and Huntington, adding realism to the route’s operations. Electric trains would run up to Huntington, showing the natural transition from electric to diesel services and providing busy commuter traffic. This layered setup would allow the Port Jefferson Branch to feel lively and true to its real-world operations, with a mix of diesel and electric services in the system.

    Why the Port Jefferson Branch is Perfect for TSW
    Adding the Port Jefferson Branch to TSW offers multiple benefits:

    1. Diesel Variety: It would be cool to see the diesels on this line, giving players the opportunity to operate unique, dual-mode DM30AC and DE30AC locomotives, adding diversity to the gameplay and reflecting the real commuter operations.

    2. Diverse Scenery: The line between Hicksville and Port Jefferson covers a wide range of scenic landscapes, from busy commuter hubs to peaceful suburban areas and wooded regions. The scenic North Shore of Long Island, combined with lush parks and historic towns, provides a beautiful visual backdrop.

    3. Rush-Hour Realism: With realistic commuter schedules and frequent weekday service, the route could offer an immersive rush-hour experience, reflecting the LIRR’s heavy usage during peak times.

    Conclusion
    In summary, the LIRR Port Jefferson Branch from Hicksville to Port Jefferson would make a fantastic addition to Train Sim World. With a balanced mix of electric and diesel operations, scenic landscapes, and a unique lineup of locomotives and rolling stock, this route would offer a truly immersive LIRR experience. Whether it’s operating the DM30AC to Penn Station or running the DE30AC through the North Shore, this branch has everything needed for a compelling addition to the TSW franchise.
     

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  2. mta#3504

    mta#3504 New Member

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    I basically gave everything lol but sounds If im missing something let me know. I'd also like to hear community feedback.
     
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  3. train#9352

    train#9352 New Member

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    I'm from the South Shore of Long Island, and I agree that it would be very cool to see my home cars in Train Sim World, but I don't feel that they'll ever do this route or my home Montauk branch. I just don't think they'll ever chose to do it, and therefore, I'm making a very realistic Roblox game based off of the LIRR.
     
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    -_-LivvuAurora-_- Well-Known Member

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    Interesting, I quite like this suggestion as I've been enjoying the routes in thr new york area. It'll be a nice new thing without being the same third rail rolling stock.
     
  5. Louie

    Louie Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been trying to get this out for years. I hope this is the post that makes it happen.
     
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  6. Delta33

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    We really need the diesels already …. Even the oyster bay branch
     
  7. tantan#8638

    tantan#8638 New Member

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    We very much need this for Lirr the Port Jefferson branch would be excellent as we as the Oyster Bay branch. Babylon and Ronkonkoma branch extension would work definitely be right along side of those also
     
  8. mta#3504

    mta#3504 New Member

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    Yea its a loco ive wanted in a train sim for awhile
     
  9. mta#3504

    mta#3504 New Member

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    [​IMG] (This embed broke on the post) Reuploading this
     
  10. LESpangle#8046

    LESpangle#8046 Member

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    Unfortunately the DE/DM30AC is a bit the black sheep at LIRR. They do not acknowledge it, and do not want it to be acknowledged. I do not think it's likely to see a LIRR Diesel in game until they replace them.
     
  11. tantan#8638

    tantan#8638 New Member

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    I get everything your saying but no matter how much they disdain they have for it they're the one who bought and added it to there fleet. Dtg has licensing for Lirr so they can still add to the game and there is enough footage available out there for them to replicate it without getting up close and personal as they would like to get to produce the train into sim world being that it is been heavily requested at least that my opinion on it.
     
  12. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

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    I guess the biggest issue would be sounds.
     
  13. mta#3504

    mta#3504 New Member

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    Yea that's the biggest issue
     

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