Route Liverpool Lime Street To Chester And Wrexham General (via The Halton Curve)

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  1. jplayz1151

    jplayz1151 Well-Known Member

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    Route mileage:
    Liverpool Lime Street (LIV) to Wrexham General (WRX) = 39.20 miles
    Average Journey time = 1hr
    Trains:
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    Transport for Wales (TFW) Class 197.
    These trains come in two formations (197/0s are 2 car units and 197/1s are 3 car units)
    Route information
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    The line has 10 stations (when including the branch to Wrexham) which are:
    -Wrexham General/Wrecsam Cyffredinol
    -Chester/Caer
    -Helsby
    -Frodsham
    -Runcorn
    -Liverpool South Parkway/Parcffordd De Lerpwl
    -West Allerton
    -Mossley Hill
    -Edge Hill
    -Liverpool Lime Street/Lerpwl Lime Street

    West Allerton, Mossley Hill, and Edge Hill aren't served by TFW, but instead receive services from Northern (Unfortunately we don't yet have a Northern Class 150, 156 or 158, so you wouldn't call at these stations unless these units are created).

    Layers:
    -London Northwestern Railway Class 350
    For services between Runcorn and Liverpool Lime Street (Drivable) (WCML South is required)
    -Avanti West Coast Class 390 for services between Runcorn and Liverpool Lime Street (Drivable) (Avanti West Coast Class 390 add on is required)
    -Northern Class 323 for services between Liverpool Lime Street and Edge Hill (Drivable) (Glossop line is required)
    -East Midlands Railway Class 158 for services between Liverpool Lime Street and Liverpool South Parkway (Drivable) (Midland mainline is required)

    Service Variation:
    Drivable:
    -1tph TFW service from Liverpool to Chester (With the odd service heading to Wrexham
    -1tph LNWR service from Liverpool to Runcorn.
    -1tph Avanti service from Liverpool to Runcorn
    -4tph Northern service from Liverpool to Edge Hill.
    -1tph TFW service from Chester to Wrexham
    1tph East Midlands Railway services from Liverpool Lime Street to Liverpool South Parkway
    -1tph TFW service from Chester to Frodsham for services to Manchester Airport
    AI:
    -1 Every 40mins TFW service at Chester for services to Crewe.


    Highlights:
    -Chester CAF maintenance Depot
    - The Halton Curve
    -Runcorn Silver Jubilee Bridge
    -Liverpool South Parkway for Liverpool John Lennon Airport
    -Edge Hill depot and Alstom Widnes maintenance Depot.

    Time Period:
    June - September 2024
    Overview:
    I feel that this would be a good route as it would take advantage of existing DLCs to compliment the route offering, improving the overall experience when driving along.
    There would also be a lot of service variation between the two different carriages lengths of the 197s. Overall, it would add a lot of services to the route, whilst using stock from the existing pool of DLC's already available.
     
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  2. opark

    opark Well-Known Member

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    What I would give for a 196/197, the route choice is good too with a nice simple run from Liverpool to Wrexham
     
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  3. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    A Northern 158 shouldn't be hard to create. We already have a base model.
     
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  4. alexds12

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    The 158 doesn't run around the Liverpool area. Only 150s, 156s, 195s unfortunately...
     
  5. alexds12

    alexds12 Member

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    What a suggestion!! This would be great to see in the game, I would rather see it set in maybe 2022 so it could feature a TFW 158 or 150/2 rather than a 197 not a fan of them myself...
     
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