Livery Designer Creations

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  1. Dariatass

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    Train Amtrak
     

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    Nice!
     
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    OK, folks, here it is in its pristine, sparkly-new form fresh out of Erie. Realism comes later!

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    This one requires some explanation. This livery, dubbed by some YN2-1 or YN2a, was never applied to a CW44AC. Except when it was. Howzat?

    All right- when CSX ordered their first batch of AC6000CWs from GE, they decided to mark out their new super-duper engines with a special livery: yellow logos outlined in blue, and double lightning bolts (more juice than a 4400!). Howsomever- the GE 7HDL 6000-hp engine was a bust. A real stinker. In fact, they had such problems just getting it produced that the first batch of AC 6000s were shipped with the good ol' 4400-horse 7FDL: Union Pacific called theirs "AC6044s." They were delivered with a promise to upgrade to the new engine- an offer nobody took them up on. Instead, the reverse happened: the 7HDL was such an unreliable bucket of bolts that eventually the RRs that owned AC6000s (UP, CSX and CN) just had them re-engined, either with the 7FDL or the 4600-hp GEVO. And so that's how CSX 600 became a "CW44AC."

    Of course, in reality they all kept their rather different bodies, so my job here doesn't look quite right- but all I needed was a flimsy excuse anyway, right?
     
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  5. trinity#2970

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    Oh thanks this helps a lot, I found these posts too now and im trying them out for what works bests for my livery. Maybe they should make a sticky post for just weathering tips if many people ask about this subject. Thanks!
     
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    I might do black stripes like that on my American reskins but probably just yellow for the 377.
     
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  7. solicitr

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    You also have to desaturate, and shift the hue about 10-12 points to the left. All three variables screwed up.
     
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    My RF Rail Express livery. Let me know how I should incorporate this design into the cars and the cab car. Ex1TTZOWYAUzm__.jpg
     
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    If you add a yellow / on the rear with a small green triangle (so basically flip the colors on what you have at the front) and repeated that same design on the cars it would look nice.

    And...see if you can tell where I'm going with this one...if the rear is yellow you can add stripes!

    I love stripes.
     
  11. solicitr

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    Now with improved lightning bolts; the old ones just didn't look right. Also anti-glare paint on the short hood (and in part the grab handles as well; I can do a lot with angled planes but LD only lets you angle them in one dimension)


    Screenshot (32).png
     
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  12. fizpix

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    I like it
     
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    The nice thing about doing a loco without weathering for a change is that you've got the layer budget to add in all the little details, the decals and step warnings and what-not.
     
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    RIP NEC
     
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  15. Chiltern Railways

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    Really nice work!
     
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    The challenge is going to be making it real:

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    Have fun :P
     
  18. finngrobch

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    Never thought I would see a TriMet livery here, nice!
     
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    69CAD548-12E9-4758-8492-066D1DB1ED50.jpeg A879A89C-5DF9-45AA-B694-F04B55DFD7E2.jpeg

    So this is my first work in progress livery based on the Dutch railways (NS, Nederlandse spoorwegen). It’s not the same train so have to adjust it a bit. Also I like the weathered effects , makes it more realistic I think.

    I hope you creatives can help me with these questions;
    - What’s the best way to add whole words because you can only add one character at the time?
    - And is there a quick way to mirror a design to the other side? I now manually mirror each layer but takes forever and is rather difficult .

    thanks for your help and reactions

    ps I’m on Xbox and couldn’t make a direct screenshot
     
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  20. solicitr

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    It generally works best to create all the letters in a row at one time, one on top of the other, then move them horizontally until they're right. Keep them big! Then when the line is right, group them and scale them down all together- scaling them one at a time will drive you mad.

    Two ways:

    1) Copy the layer or group, then edit the copy and under Options there is a "Move to other side" choice. If you move it from right to left or left to right, it will appear in the same place as the original (but sometimes may lose rotation).

    2) There is a better way, though, for anything that keeps the same front-to-back orientation (like most painted designs, but not lettering): edit the original layer or layer group, and under Options choose Projection Settings. Move both sliders all the way to the right: the bottom one will project it right through the train, and the top one ensures that it's painted on the "back" side. This method uses half as many of your limited layers as the copy method.
     
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    Thanks for your tips Solicitr!
    The word tip is rather simple and good to use!

    And about projection settings I still don’t understand how it works, but like you said it works! This saves a lot of layers, thnx!!
     
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    Every shape in LD is 3-dimensional, although you can only manipulate it in two (the ones you are looking at from whichever "side" you are applying it to). The third dimension, the "projection", is how deep the 3D object is. You can play with this by putting a large shape on the front of a loco, and stretching it to full width- if you then rotate your view and look at the side, you'll see that shape extending back halfway down the engine. The lower of the two projection sliders controls that dimension: right makes it "deeper", sending it farther back along the train, left makes it "shallower," brining it back towards the front. This latter is very useful for things like painting handrails, since you only want to do the rail and not the body behind it.

    The upper slider controls the amount of "wrap" The default (middle) position means that the projected image will "paint" the near half of any 3D items it encounters, especially round objects. All the way right means it paints completely round the back, which is why you use it when projecting designs from one side to the other. Left covers less and less of the object, useful mostly for things like weathering and wear.
     
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  23. finngrobch

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    A Conrail livery I'm working on. I'm sure it has been done before, but this is my first time making a livery so I decided to go with a simple one.
     

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    Also, how can I mirror text to the other side of the locomotive without it being backwards?
     
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    Group together whatever it is you want to put on the other side then copy the group and change the side of the copy to the other side.
     
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  26. solicitr

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    Nicely done! But you might want to desaturate the blue some, or in game lighting it will look positively radioactive.
     
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    Thanks for the tip, but I have one more problem: When I go into timetable and use the livery the layers don't show up. It's just blue. Is there any fix for this?
     
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    Hmmm- on an AC4400? That's strange. And it looks OK in Livery Designer?
     
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    It happens there too, they disappear when I zoom out
     
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    I'm reinstalling the game right now
     
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    Thanks for this, it’s a true life saver! I got rid of halve my layers now and is much easier to mirror designs. Regards
     
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    One thing I find bizarre about that picture: it appears that CSX had very recently repainted the yellow step rails, while not even bothering to wash the rest of the locomotive! Look how bright, clean and unworn they are (on nearly all locos, those step rails quickly get worn to bare metal in patches and dirtied generally by multiple hands grabbing them).

    Faced with an imminent FRA safety inspection, maybe?
     
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    Ex-7yJDWgAI57Wo.png This livery is part of my RF Metro operations between Paddington and Reading, I tried my best to recreate a few London landmarks in it as well!
     
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  35. fizpix

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    Did my last livery till Thursday get ready I have like 60 liveries to make when the F7 comes out
     
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    [​IMG]
    when the F7 releases can someone make this
    The railroad is RF&P
     
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    I'll add that to the list
     
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    Pretty much every single Class I RR and most of the smaller ones operated F-units. That's a LOT of potential liveries (in 1950 there were 40 Class Is alone).
     
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    I already have a list of 25 liveries
     
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    Plus canada, mexico, australia......I have some nice off the beaten path ones I'm getting prepared to do. I'm into photos and have a huge collection of f-units from some seriously obscure lines.

    Also since many used EMD designed liveries a lot of the shapes and designs are actually pretty universal, so we can make easy base models to quickly do most other lines. Also since these lasted in service for so long many lines have a huge variety of schemes for them. Instant buy just to get this locomotive!

    I propose we do them by alphabetical order in a side thread, it'd be really sick to see what we all could come up with.
     
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    Anyone else excited for Cathcart circle?

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    [​IMG]
    I’m sorry I’m making your list longer but can you make this one
     
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    That font will be so hard.
     
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    My first livery is finally finished. Based on the Dutch railway (Nederlandse spoorwegen) I’ve added extra weathered effects by adding gradient shapes with brown colour to give it a more realistic feel. In the first screenshot you can see that the back of the train is still the original red DB livery. Does anyone know how to put the livery on the whole train? Thnx
     
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    I have it on my list already I tried making it once with the Geep didn't look good
     
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    Great work with the weathering.

    Regarding the other unit in the train...... you can only select the unit you are driving if the train has another unit in the consist that will be a random selection by the game. It could be your repaint but not very likely. You could make another slightly different version and that would mean more of a chance that the rear unit would not be in the default livery.
     
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    Thats why I personally either wouldn't do a livery for the B Unit or just give it a nondescript paint scheme and focus more attention on the A unit.
     
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    Screenshot (224).png
    Early WIP Saskatchewan covered grain hopper
     
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  49. Chiltern Railways

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    EyEkSYyWUAE1Z_y.png My own 'Back Medway' livery similar to what DTG did to 395025 but I decided to go all out and make this pink and yellow livery on a 375!
     
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