Hello there, just wondering if the developers are going to upgrade the livery designer interface? It is great to repaint but this is too basic of an editor. My main problem is that you cannot upload anything! No "custom" signs, logos, fonts I mean everything to make models more realistic. Why? Also another problem is that you cannot rename layers! So they all have the same name and, depending on the project you are working on, with lots of layers, it becomes very very confusing! Please help!!!! Another problem is that you cannot select multiple layers to copy and paste to the next coach or whatever you are going to paste too. Does anyone knows if there's anything about updating and upgrading the livery designer soon? Please advise if you know something and also please comment if you share my same frustration. Thank you in advance.
Hi man,,,,just quick as I’ve been here all day. You can do things like group and re use and if your on PC you can use mods I even believe the editing for PC is available I could be wrong tho. If your talking about console and the basic of it then I’m sorry to say you must be still getting used to it. Please I don’t say this with any nastiness because I can help with a few of your issues if not all. Yes there could be a few functions like saving decals to be reused or what I call better decal management but take this for example. This livery has over 8000 decals. I think it’s this one anyway,,I’ve done that many. As you can see all this was done by hand no mods yet decal management was hard but in time you will get used to it. I mean how long have you been playing?. For no disrespect but it has taken me many years to pick up and more so with the new increase in decals. It was 300 limit now 1000 and still I wish it was more. Sadly you can’t alter the names of decals but you will learn what’s what’s as you start making them. You can get lost and why I do liveries from scratch as seen here when messing with trying to save time. So yes it can get hard but I am sure I or someone can help you out mate. I can help with the grouping as it’s not a game fault or issue and if I hear back then I can try help you from there. I hear your frustration and am willing to help you out,,because I and we have all been there. So welcome and hope we can sort this out for you. Lee (TSLP).
Thanks Mate! Wow I see! you have some unique decals on that loco! Look...... I am a graphic designer so I have no boundaries I have done many, many projects for Flight Simulator and other sims. I have tried a workaround and searched the web but all the mods I've found are not compatible with version 4 (this one). I have tried to locate where the layers files are stored on my Pc but nothing, yes I use Pc by the way. So is there a method to upload some custom made logos or signs? If you could help me in this respect that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!!
Hi Mate,,,I’m short on time again but I will get back to you. I’ll try speak to a friend that deals with Mods and PC they will have the answer for you. I’ve seen mods used and file management so there must be away. I’m lost on PC like but I’ll see if I can’t get someone with more experience and knowledge on that front. All my work is done by hand and on PS5. I like your a graphics designer too,,,I’m into that sort of stuff my self even if it’s just on a low level of skill. Sorry I’ve gotta go but I will endeavour to find out mate. Lee.
Thanks and hey I just want to sorry if I came across a little blunt in me first message. The way you was describing sounded like you didn’t have much experience but obviously by the sounds you have after you second post. As I say those issues on console are not there really. I can’t download mods or don’t use mods like and the grouping of decals and then duplicating on too other stock can be done. Files or decal names if using all 1000 layers can be difficult but you do find your way around eventually and learn to cut corners. Like the one I shown you in that its what I have to do if working around the bars and handles etc. I have been busy having a chat on a few other post too and seen you cry for help so wanted to help if I could. So when I speak to a friend today I’ll see if you can get the ball moving for ya hopefully. Always the way tho where is the help or those in the know when you need it..?. I’ll try my best for you. Speak soon. Lee.
Okay Lee, look......I appreciate your attention and will to help me. I have a lot of experience, trust me, in graphic design I have done professional work for certain simulation companies that I cannot name. I was trying to bring some additional material freeware for this nice hobby/simulation but I guess I have to stop for now. It really seems that with Train sim world 4 all the previous mods, that were released for previous versions, are no longer working or compatible. It seems that there's a general "fear" of copyright infringement all around. So that means that, in particular, you cannot use certain national railways logos, of a specific country or company, thus limiting any creativity from the Community. I was working, and I have finished, the new version of the OBB RailJet train but....guess what? I cannot release it because all the relevant official logos and additional signs, that I can create from scratch or customize, cannot be uploaded! This elementary and basic livery editor is simply useless unless you are going to go with the logos that they have provided as a default, none of which, interests me because I am more interested in other European countries. For what concerns the OBB RailJet train I've found a couple of versions, in the online sharing hub, that where created before in version TSM2 or TSM3, I think....maybe I am wrong, that are available...... but these are unique and are "compatible" previous works nothing recent. So there's nothing much I can do or you can do unless "someone" who is a skilled programmer can find a way to implement new & compatible "mods" to embellish this simulator. Maybe Dovetail will listen to the my cry or the cry of the other many developers and will release sooner or later a "patch" to address all these deficiencies. However if you find a way, please, let me know. Cheers!
Hello. Just want to say I’m in no position to doubt anyone’s skill set or past experience. You do sound like you have done a lot and yes when involved with 3rd parties things can’t be said for obvious reason. By the sounds of all this I don’t think it’s the issue of your skills but the game. I will ask how long have you been working with TSW?. The reason I ask is say for console anyway and why I try keep track of files is a lot can conflict so is it the same for PC?. I have a lot of liveries so all have been catalogued for tracking reasons. What I mean and where I’m coming from with say files or old DLCs and it’s compatibility with newer titles in TSW4. And what I’ve done to keep track of them. To be honest I just think I’m overthinking yet it turns out after all the swapping and changing with TSW doing it like this let’s me know where the original file source is say and helps when I need to fix them. In fact as I sit here now I think about how many variables are at play here with DLC this and Compatibility that,,,i do feel all over the place my self. I know I can confuse issues too yet being a console user I still wonder if there is something along the same lines going on here. And so if you find a little bit of that intriguing as I don’t have the time to go into much detail but I do understand where your coming from and again if your new to TSW then knowing just a few basic of how some of it vast product line works. For copyright purposes also I understand issues surrounding that and what is deemed as using a trademark say against a copyright has a massive legal implications. Again I’m not going to pretend I know European or even US trademark or Copyright laws. Yet I have done a little To apply for rights of use can be costly and take a number of years depending on the state or processes. For Trademarks can be even more difficult if say something has been heavily protected. I Know with certain German ICE DLCs there not available by DTG due to Trademark Protection and use of rights given. So I could be wrong but if your dealing with German units or DLCs DTG is just holding up to the agreements made between the two parties. So as no doubt you are aware that with Trademarks freedom of use on something that is or be so heavily restricted by say DTG to keep to its word or it may find it self in some legal trouble,,action will be taken if you don’t have any legal rights by ways of a license. Some large gaming companies don’t worry about this so much they have the cash and lawyers for that. I’ve seen many trademarks being used or miss used yet are still seen. Again I haven’t got a lot of time to go on so sorry if it just brief. Yet you will be aware of rights from your past projects maybe just understanding DTG and it’s crazy way or working is again key maybe here. I don’t get greatly involved with PCs and Mods but if you look around you find a few that have the same or similar problems that when ya know how the system work say with the DLCs and Mods etc you can get around a few issues. But just quickly your right DTG does have a lot to do if you look around and see other issues by the community,,,. So yes it’s not a problem me willing to help I could learn something new as I go too and so I hope you find the right man to help ya. Even consider trying contact support for help. They do get back to you in time. Sorry I couldn’t be much of a help but you never know if you don’t ask or talk. Anyway gotta go back to work unlike you fancy guys with ya fancy mods I have to slave away and do it by hand. Takes a lot of time. Time the one thing you can’t buy at the Shops. Here’s me latest stuff,,so gotta get cracking all I’ll be behind on my contracts lol. As a graphic designer I’d thought I’d share and see if you pick up the faults I’d like to see what you do or what work you’re involved with. Be good to have a professionals opinion,,as I’m into design and so respect anyone that does it professionally. Cheers. Lee (TSLP).
Hi Lee, Wow! what a long reply! First answer, how long with TSW, ......look......I started doing 3d models for coaches and some routes back when it first came out and it was called Rail Simulator produced by Kuju Entertainment released in 2007 before Dovetail bought it you can read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Simulator Then I moved on with the other new simulators that came out but left on and off this hobby to concentrate more on Microsoft Flight Simulator and I have worked professionally with some Groups to create new aircraft and liveries etc.etc. I prefer the TRAINZ concept because you have an editor that allows you to create routes with real Geo Data but it lacks in other things. I came back to TSM4 just recently I hadn't touch it since 2020! I thought to give it a shot because I understand that they are working on a route editor/creator Train Sim World PC Editor (Beta). However, the trains editor looked promising until I found out about the limitations as previously discussed. Your projects looks nice, unfortunately, with the editor we cannot add any particular lighting effects, and all the other stuff we have discussed. Bommer!! Let me know if you find out about new MODS working with TWS4. All the best!
Hi Yes,,thanks for that. I am aware of Rail Simulator as I was speaking to someone not long ago about UK Train Sim for a small project before Christmas. But I’ll move on from that Sounds very interesting what you say but I feel I’m wasting your time as much as my own. I do hope to get involved with things like mods when the times right,,,maybe my OCD of things not being perfect may serve me in the future. Until then I’ll stick to what I know, but I’ll always remember this brief yet interesting interchange over TSW. Good luck in your venture and if your ever looking for an apprentice then maybe you could remember this brief interchange too All the best. Lee (TSLP).
