As we’ve seen previously with SEHS, the route was extended and upped in quality massively, aswell as including more trains, so my suggestion today is for an “Enhancement Pack” for the BML. First of all, a new train is needed to add variety within the electrostars, and the Class 700 could do just that. The Class 700 is a dual voltage emu, either formed of 8 coaches (700/0) or 12 coaches (700/1). This route would add loads of variety with Thameslink services of which this route currently lacks in. This modern emu would bring a whole new immersive experience to the game making it feel even more alive than it currently is with its busy timetable. If possible, DTG should work with Armstrong powerhouse to source the sounds for these units to give us the best quality sounding trains we deserve. Second of all, in couple with the Class 700 being added, an extension from East Croydon up to London Bridge would be ideal, as this is the direction Thameslink services go after ECR. Class 377s, 375s and 465s could all be layered into this route extension adding to the immersion and filling the empty stations, of which london bridge would definitely be if it didn’t have these layered in. If you have any other suggestions that could form an enhancement pack for this route then let me know down below, thanks for reading.
Untill we get the BML bugs fixed no. If theres any thing for BML we need (ignoring the 700) Its a "Legend of gatwick" pack with the famous Gatwicke express trains. Imo we dont really need a London Bridge extention for the moment.
A better name is London commuter extended since that's what you're explaining. An enhancement pack as defined by dtg is a gameplay pack where you use current trains in game to add in more gameplay whether that is a new timetable or new services. Think of it like the diesel legends pack where it used the br blue locos in game to create a alternate timetable in gwe. There's no new locos or track. Adding a class 700 or any new train is a loco dlc. Extending or adding more track would be a separate route dlc.
Absolutely yes for me, on the proviso that while upgrading to TSW3 they also sort the the remaining issues, but this would be a great route and train addition, think it would be very popular.
as DTG somehow can't get licensing for the 700 it would be cool if we got the 455 to replace some of the 377s just for some visual difference and a better game experience instead of just copy pasted electrostars (don't get me wrong electrostars are good just overused)
Dtg do have the Thameslink license. That's why the 700 released in tsc after Thameslink decided to make their license available. Since they have it, they're more likely to have it for tsw3. And they left space in the timetable I'm bml for the 700 which is like a hint that it might come in the future.
If you want to make it better why not bundle Class 700 BML with the Acela Express Boston Providence Germany Verkehrsverbund Oberelbe VVO Nahverkehr Dresden DB BR411 ICE-T. As rush hour enhancement pack same price as this one. For this version of the class 700 it cannot be using the same sounds it has on TSC which was AC 395 Class 444 Portsmouth Direct Line DC otherwise people would be refunding it and instead they would have two trains that are good sounds. To avoid Class 700 TSC sound issue AP Class 700 sounds that were recorded at Three Bridges TMD or Hornsey TMD should be used.
I'm sure we'll get fixed for London commuter and we'll see the extension to London bridge and maybe Horsham DTG are capable of doing it if they set their mind to it besides, it's the community making harsh comments on the form, which I don't think DTG likes. DTG likes positive, comments
I agree My favorite route in TSW3 is London commuter and it does need a lot of bug fixing before if DTG wants to do an expansion for it
Very good route. I like long sections, but there are plenty of types. With the enrichment of the London neighborhood, the density will increase.It will become a masterpiece
From what I can remember they had the license for Thameslink but not the 700 which makes no sense but idk
hopefully they’ll acquire it soon then, dk how they’ve managed to make in tsc, but the liscense for the 2 games are very different from one another from what i’ve heard
I think "the Thameslink license" was assumed by people because GTR are parent for both them and Southern, so if DTG can do Southern they must be able to do Thameslink, right? As say, an assumption The 700 is a wierd case, because rather than being owned by someone like Angel Trains, the 700 is owned by a single shell company and licensed to Thameslink. Not sure if this is also true for the 701 / 707 (which of course are operated by Southeastern who DTG also have DLC out with) So maybe one or both will come. Maybe they'll backdate and give us the 319. Who knows?
Excellent point there and here's the thing with Class 700 it's the sounds since on TSC where it was made first AC 25kv 50hz system sounds are from Class 395 while 750v DC Third Rail top contact sounds are from Class 444. Those are the reasons why it has a patch in train simulator classic to avoid that happening in train Sim World 3 Class 700 needs AP sounds
id like to hope that if they do make a 700 either for my suggestion here, or as a loco dlc, they’d partner up with armstrong powerhouse like they have done before to give us a top quality sounding product for us as we deserve.
Doesn't mean dtg have the license for use on the train. We don't know what the whole licensing deal is
Every asset could have a different Intellectual Property (IP) protocol Unless the IP license that DTG has includes all Thameslink assets, routes, names, logos, fonts etc it could be limiting in what hey can do, and of course Thameslink may not own the IP to some of the assets they employ IRL, for instance the 700 could be owned by someone else even though Thameslink drive them
Yeah I think thats right - Class 700's are leased by Cross London Trains I belive so thameslink technically dosen't own the 700 CLT does.
Exactly that, and CLT is a sub-company of Siemens generally I believe, so either or both would probably have IP
The class 700 is just a locomotive model All they would have to do is model the locomotive and put the Thames Link logo on it
It really isnt... that really isnt how it works - Unlike other operaters TL dosent even own the class 700 CLT does so to make it you actually NEED the CLT license which - I have no idea what there deal it but im presuming its possible considering TSC.
Anything which is designed has an IP element, either owned by the designer themselves, the design studio who they worked for, or whoever bought the design from either of those entities. Similar to whoever takes a photo owns it's copyright, or whoever paints a painting, writes a song etc etc So no, you can't "model the loco" and try to sell that model without infringing someone else's property
Who would want to see a TSW3 upgrade of London commuter that feature the Thames link, London overground and Eastcoast way
The tsw3 upgrade will likely be released at the same time a paid dlc is released. It won't have any route mergers or extensions or anything like that cuz of technical challenges for mergers and not being a route dlc for extra track
I would prefer them to make other routes, which use the 700 which could then layer into BML Make West Hampstead to Orpington, the North Kent lines, Welwyn Garden to East Croydon, The MML up to Bedford... There's a lot of scope for routes where the 700 (or 707) run, so why limit ourselves to "hey, why not keep making the same route time and again..."
Not sure on the IP of the 707s but will assume for convenience it's much the same as TL, they've all been transferred (or are transferring to) southeastern now anyway. I see them a fair bit at Gillingham depot
