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London Euston To Manchester

Discussion in 'Route Suggestions & Proposals' started by joesphjohnson2000, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. joesphjohnson2000

    joesphjohnson2000 New Member

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    London Euston to Manchester with all stations including and being the virgin pedolino loco back too pc
     
  2. Factor41

    Factor41 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for putting in all that hard work on your proposal. The supporting evidence was very compelling.
     
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  4. joesphjohnson2000

    joesphjohnson2000 New Member

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    It’s too confusing plus I haven’t got all the requirements
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    If you look at most DTG routes they are not more than an hours run or around 80 miles maximum
    I doubt if they would do a route which is 189 miles long.

    Peter
     
  6. budtheweiser

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    Virgin trains haven't got the franchise but It might have to be done British rail Intercity days the WCML stripped virgin trains from franchise
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Stop talking rubbish -
    The WCML is not something that can remove a franchise
     
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    You can get most of this route (except for a short bit West of Birmingham) from Alanthomsonsim
    DTG don't normally replicate routes already made by others.
     
  10. budtheweiser

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    okay but Dovetail games would need the licence from Atvanti west coast
     
  11. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    OK, let's clarify this

    DTG can make the ROUTE as in the tracks and stations, without a license as they aren't branded and are "owned" by the UK people
    Most of the stations to the South of this route are branded LNWR, so for their branding you would need LNWR permission
    Most of the trains in the London region are under TfL branding so TfL licensing (Overground and Underground)
    The regional trains are LNWR, so again their license
    The Intercity trains are Avanti, which is FirstGroup and an Italian company, so their license would be needed

    Currently, I think only the Overgound licensing is agreed with DTG (Goblin lines and the 378 pack), so all the other licenses would be needed for DTG to sell this route with appropriate liveries and station signage
     
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  12. budtheweiser

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    Okay right so dovetail games should go ahead to make this Intercity railway route for the players like myself
     
  13. ARuscoe

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    Except someone else already has... So as I said, DTG tend not to make things other people already have
    If you want WCMLS, go to ATS
     

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