In this suggestion, I will be proposing the addition of the Metropolitan Line. This would be the second London Underground line to come to Train Sim world, the first one being the Bakerloo Line. This line would provide a vastly different experience to the Bakerloo, being a line with multiple termini and a wide variety of service patterns. The Route The route runs for ~41 miles and has 34 stations. There are also some additional stations between Finchley Road and Wembley Park which are only served by Jubilee Line trains. One factor which makes this route interesting is the variety of services, there are many services which are fast or semi-fast meaning that they will skip certain stations. Trains along this route also terminate at different stations, these being Uxbridge, Watford, Chesham and Amersham. This service variation would keep the route interesting and keep players coming back to the route often. Rolling Stock The S8 stock and S7 stock would be included and would represent Metropolitan line services. The S7 stock would also represent Circle and Hammersmith and City Line services between Baker Street and Aldgate. The 72 stock which was included in the Bakerloo Line and WCML South could either be included or layered in to represent Piccadilly Line services between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge and Jubilee Line services between Wembley Park and Finchley Road. Speaking of the Bakerloo Line, route hopping points would be included at Northwick Park and would allow the player to route hop to Kenton on either the Bakerloo Line or WCML South. A route hop point would also be present at Baker Street to connect up with the Bakerloo Line. Another route hop point would be present at Kings Cross St Pancras to connect up with SEHS. Timetable (Off Peak) Aldgate–Uxbridge: 8 trains per hour (tph) Baker Street–Watford: 4 tph Aldgate–Amersham: 2 tph southbound, semi-fast northbound Aldgate–Chesham: 2 tph southbound, semi-fast northbound The amount of services would be increased with the Circle and Hammersmith and City Line services being present and the potential of Piccadilly and Jubilee Line services being represented by 72 stock trains. Landmarks on the Route Neasden Depot would be seen between Neasden and Wembley Park and would allow for some interesting scenarios and empty stock moves. Wembley arch would be seen along some of the route and its close proximity would certainly allow for some engaging scenarios. The spectacular Uxbridge station with its heritage features and stained glass patterns would be an amazing station to explore in free roam. Chesham is a strange but wonderful station on the Underground, it has a single platform, something very rare to see on the Underground, and the quaint feel of the station would provide a calming end to a bustling journey through London. The vast change in scenery across this route is stunning, you can travel from the bustling city of London out to the suburbs and into the Chilterns. This route is different to the Bakerloo Line in that the tunnel section is cut and cover and is never very deep below ground so the route will still appeal to those who would prefer to not be in tunnels a large portion of the route. Additionally, there are many sidings along the route which would allow the player to store trains overnight. Ruislip Depot is also seen partially along the route however this depot is mainly used for Central Line trains. Layers There is one train service along the route which I haven't mentioned yet, that being the Chiltern Railways services which would be seen between Amersham and would leave the route around Finchley Road. One idea to include these services would be to have this route release before a core route which could be a Chiltern Mainline. This is similar to the Suffragette Line being released before the WCML South in order to include Lioness Line services. Another approach could be to add in unbranded versions of the 165 and 168 trains using existing trains being the 166 from GWE and the 170 from the Fife Circle Line. This is a similar approach to the GWE remaster. Other Layers would include the Class 350, 390, 710 and the 72 stock which would be seen between Preston Road and Northwick Park. The Class 700 would be seen at Farringdon on the adjacent platforms. The 1938 stock would also make an appearance and would be used for railtour services. The S stock included in this route could also have the potential to be layered in at Barking on the Suffragette Line and at several stations along GWE. Conclusion Overall, I believe that this route would be an amazing addition to TSW due to the large variety of different service patters and opportunities for layering. This route would please both lovers of fast paced metro-style running, along with those who enjoy running fast services. This route would also be a complete network, with end-to-end running and the ability to take the train back the other way over and over again. The opportunity for new rolling stock is also present, the older A-stock trains could be added as a dlc later down the line. Anyway, be sure to like this suggestion if you would like to see the Metropolitan Line in TSW!
This! Really hope they add another tube line in-game and a really diversified stopping pattern experience with fast services, services starting at Baker Street all the branches etc. Really hope this gets made one day.
Even better backdated to use A60 stock..! The problem otherwise with the Met is that it could end up like Bakerloo, where running alongside or sharing tracks with National Rail/BR. Depending on era you would need a Class 165/0, 168 or 67 and coaches or a Class 115 DMU for the relevant services.
I agree that the A60 stock would be amazing, however my suggested approach for the Chiltern services would either be to use unbranded versions (Using the 166 from GWE and 170 from FCL) or to have this route release slightly before or after a Chiltern railways route, depending on licensing of course. The unbranded approach would be similar to what is being used in the upcoming GWE remaster, and now that we have selectable layers this sort of thing could definitely be included in future dlc.
What a brilliant route suggestion. City to Metroland. Service patterns to suit all tastes and route variety. I think you should pm MattP with this, because I'm already sold. Brilliant pitch by the way.
I would love this route. It's excellent in TSC but has its limitations such as no Timetable mode and I think I've done every scenario available too. A 2010/2011 transition DLC would be good. The driving experience between the A and S stock is totally different (not surprising given the 60 years difference) and it would make an already interesting route a superb one. Alternatively, any sub-surface Underground line would be good, even the Hammersmith & City/Circle/T-Cup. But the District and Metropolitan Lines are the most interesting from an operational and scenery point of view.
Definitely not the thing to do. Pings to DTG staff should be kept for urgent and important issues, not to try and push route ideas. the Met Line has been suggested enough times I'm the past I'm sure DTG are aware of the interest and no doubt monitor the Suggestions forum anyway.
Obviously I stand corrected. As for the route it's the best suggestion I've seen since elarthur gwe remaster which turned into reality. It struck gold for me.
I completely agree. Separate timetables for the A stock, Transition period and S stock would be great! That way people who prefer older traction would be catered for, and those who prefer driving modern units.
To be honest, even if they populated the Jubilee Line with TS72s I'd prefer it to nothing operating on that stretch. I'm old enough to remember riding on that line in the early days before the 1983 stock was introduced so they wouldn't look so out of place for me.
It's a shame that TFL have changed there roles on driver doing eye views, this may also have affected on getting London underground lines in tsw. Its probably down to security issues
Doubt it to be honest, Suffragette Line released this year and the Overground is part of TFL so I think it’s more of the fact of DTG and Third Parties favouring other route locations.
I’ve worked on the Met line and it’s probably the highest sought out line to work on purely because you don’t feel so much like a tube driver. It’s a great suggestion and one I keep hoping to see in the announcements.
They've probably spotted a revenue stream, make their own and sell them as DVDs or stick them on You Tube for ad revenue. It'll be bus visual videos next. It's a shame as I love cab view videos. Some operators seem to embrace them, others don't.
Yes +1 for this suggestion - a great line. If they do the S stock then the upcoming GWE remaster wouldn't have to compromise using a skinned Class 484. The Chiltern trains on the Aylesbury branch are mainly turbostars that could be done as a debranded Class 166 from GWE if the Chiltern license can't be secured.
Yeah, this route would be amazing. I think that this is the most likely of the Underground Lines and I would be more than happy for it to feature as part of the TSW franchise
Good idea! I am currently suggesting the Jubilee Line and the Metropolitan Line run parallel with the Jubilee Line & Chiltren Main Line between Finchley Road and Wembley Park Station. You can read more about my route suggestion here: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/london-underground-jubilee-line-stanmore-to-sratford.87955/
Really want to see S Stock in game, as it layers in many places. As I've said before this contains part of the world's first underground railway, so this would be a day 1 purchase.
The S Stock are breathtaking. They are beautiful trains with a well designed interior and a unique sound which I love. These trains would make this splendid route even better
They should add nine more stops on the Jubilee line between Baker St & Wembley Park with 1996 stock (se7en car train).
I would be happy with just the Metropolitan line for now then the full Jubilee line could be a later add on if they were to make it. Or the two routes could come as a bundle
I totally agree. Pleasure to hear the insight about the role you played for the Metropolitan line and I am so desperate for another London Underground line and the potential this route would have would be far superior to the poorly recreated Bakerloo line. The route is spectacular and the variety of services would make it well worth the money. Additionally, I love the S8 stock
Totally agreed. The history that comes with this route would make it easier to decide which Underground line to recreate. I do wonder whether DTG will recreate another London Underground route and I really hope they do. My desire for more TFL routes is keeping me on the forums.
I think that Just Trains would do a perfect job since they did make it for TSC. Although I expect an even better route in TSW given the performance improvements, TSC version was revolutionary for that game and I think it would be revolutionary for TSW if they completed the whole route with the multiple branch lines
Happy New Year and by the way looks like you do want it's Creator in train simulator classic just trains to go back
Happy New year to you too! We have seen the quality of the Just Trains routes in TSW yet I have decided not to purchase them as I am not interested in non- London routes. However, it has always amazed me how quality the Metropolitan line was in TSC and I hope that it gets recreated as I am sure it would be very popular amongst this community as well
I agree. This route is incredible and I believe this response reflects on the incredibly phrased thread. I love this route very much yet I can't see DTG making another London Underground route. Let me know if you believe DTG will create another London Underground line. It has been long overdue and would be one of the Lines in the game if not the best. I expect it to be the best but only if DTG does it justice which I am sure they would
I’d love the metropolitan line, not only because of the S stock, but also how it doesn’t feel entirely like a tube line. however, i think it’s unlikely dtg would do both branches past harrow on the hill. my preference would be the amersham branch, so that we can also go to chesham and watford
Thus would appeal to more individuals given that it is not a typical London Underground route yet it remains full of action
To Maggie the best value out of this might as well bring back its creator in train simulator classic just trains just like how they remade their TSC route WCML Over shap
From memory (and I'm getting old so it's not 100% reliable) WCML Over Shap in TSC was a DTG product. It's certainly never had a separate version on Just Trains' website like all of their other creations. But, yes, I agree that having done all that research on the Metropolitan Line and the S Stock, it would make sense for Just Trains to make it for TSW. There were rumours of a TSC version of the A-Stock a few years ago, I saw a WIP model of it about 5 years ago which sadly never got released. Maybe we'll see the two Metropolitan Line units side-by-side in TSW one day. The driving experience between the two couldn't be more different so it would make for a very interesting release.
Just Trains appeared to make it really well aswell so bringing it to TSW would be an absolute pleasure and a definite day 1 purchase.
Do you guys think that this route has a high chance of coming to TSW? I really want another London Underground route and DTG seem to have a great rela with TFL. Sorry to bring it but could be TSW6 route
