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London Underground's Central Line

Discussion in 'Route Suggestions & Proposals' started by kiyoko91, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. kiyoko91

    kiyoko91 Active Member

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    It's a red-color, 12 borough, 49 station & 46-mile route from West Ruislip, Northolt, Newbury Park, White City, Debdenor or Ealing Broadway to Hainault, Woodford, Epping or Leytonstone. They are three depots on this line: White City, West Ruislip & Hainault. The CL [Central Line] started in 1900 as a London Underground's [Subway Tube] fourth longest line, carring over than 260 million passenger journeys [customers] travelling between east & west stations. On Friday & Saturday nights [late night service], Central Line will operate from Ealing Broadway to Loughton or Hainault; no service to/from Epping & to/from West Ruislip; and again on Night Tube for Friday & Saturday nights [late night service], no service between Woodford & Hainault. There's a Hainault loop between Leytonstone & Woodford. Also between earling Broadway & Newbury park every 20 minutes. With a 1992 Stock eight-car train started in 1993, it's a 53-foot train with more than 680 cars. Automatic Train Protection [ATP] was implemented 1995-97 & ATO 1999-2001, with a centralised control centre in West London. This is a huge challenge of that route, for more than an hour. If Aerosoft did the LU's Circle Line, why DoveTail can make other L.U. lines besides Central?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_line_(London_Underground)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_line_(London_Underground)#List_of_stations
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_1992_Stock
    https://www.london-tube-map.info/central-line/
    http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/central.html



    [​IMG] A Central line 1992 Stock at Theydon Bois station.


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    A Central Line London Underground train departs Perivale station.


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    Central Line map



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    Central Line flag



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    Central Line strip map



    From Loughton to West Ruislip



    From West Ruislip to Epping



    Hainault Loop from Woodford to Gants Hill



    Secrets on the Central Line


    These videos are not mine.
     
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  2. Mkdog45

    Mkdog45 Well-Known Member

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    Really want this
     
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  3. Alex01

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    i dont want this i want sweden :)
     
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  4. jamesbaby286

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    I especially like that it can join with GWE at Ealing Broadway.
     
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  5. jamesbaby286

    jamesbaby286 Active Member

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    Also Alex01 you shouldn't be going into other peoples threads just to dis thier proposals to promote your own wants. Its very inappropriate.
     
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  6. pennine465

    pennine465 Active Member

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    blablabla :):):):):):):):)
     
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  7. kiyoko91

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    If Aerosoft did WoS [World of Subways] Vol. 3: London Underground's Circle Line, why TSW can make the CL. So u live in London, do u? What's your favorite tube line?
     
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  8. Alex01

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    I like nazi
     
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  9. PlatChap

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    Alex, I don't think I've ever seen one post from you where I thought to myself "that's a thought out and rational post". This will be the one time I acknowledge you and it will be to tell you to improve your attitude or get off the forums. I'm frankly tired of seeing your nonsense on otherwise good discussions or topics.

    Kiyoko91, I'm sorry the above post was put on your topic. it's a blight to be totally honest. Back on topic, I think this a great suggestion and I would wholeheartedly enjoy seeing this route. Thanks for sharing your idea! It's good to see some thought and care go into a suggestion rather than the usual "see title ... please add this route".
     
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  10. kiyoko91

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    It's my honor, PlatChap.
     
  11. Michael Newbury

    Michael Newbury Well-Known Member

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    kiyoko91, We are all terribly sorry for Alex's behaviour he has been warned and banned once already for his attitude issues. I think your idea is great one and could possibly see added one day TSW.

    As for you Alex01 I have asked you several times to clean up your act and so has DTG I don't think your are really getting the message.
     
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  12. kiyoko91

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    Of course. If they did that by the future, I'll get a credit.
     
  13. Alex01

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    Hey i only said i like nazi theres nothing wrong with that
     
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  14. Michael Newbury

    Michael Newbury Well-Known Member

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    Alex that is neither here or there, these forums are strictly to talk about trains and not to get people off topic about something such as this. Besides the point the point this group prompts hatred towards certain ethnic groups and that will not be tolerated in these forums.
     
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  15. Medellinexpat

    Medellinexpat Well-Known Member

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    There have been quite a few posts for London Underground routes and if I remember it correctly one asking for the entire system. Single lines seem an easier task to me (you eliminate the need for a player to be able to move from one line to another, removing the need for a lot of station work) and in this case the Central Line has a pleasant mix of underground and surface working. Plus of course you have some decent sized branches.

    One question I have is not just now, but going forward how much automation there actually is. Personally I doubt the ongoing play value of say just opening doors. To that end I’ve always wondered if retro versions made sense, where you’d have the opportunity to do more driving. Londoners and tube experts may have a better idea on this.

    Commercially how successful it would be leads me to the existing World Of Subways franchise. I know that’s not a cutting edge game but how popular was that? I guess my question is based on how that game did would a TSW version do better? Yes better graphics (although in the dark tunnel from Stratford to Mile End that’s perhaps not that important) but what would this need to get enough sales to make it worthwhile?

    While we wait for the editor what scenario possibilities are there in a Underground route? Stuck train, train ahead running late, train taken out of service but aren’t there a limited set of ‘circumstances’ to base a script? Does that, over time, erode play value?

    The mileage looks about right for a TSW route but more than one station a mile is pretty challenging. Do we think this is a project that DTG might be able to fit within their normal timeframes (and budgets) for building a route? If we’re talking 50 stations is this the sort of route people would be prepared to pay more for?
     
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  16. pennine465

    pennine465 Active Member

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    Hei Mr.Alex01.
    Sweden,al World hates Nazi Germany!
    Reporting to DTG..........
     
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  17. Alex01

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    Sweden Help the nazis
     
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  18. ragn05

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    but this does not justify your previous comment
     
  19. Trains4Days

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    I know this is a thread drift but the Piccadilly Line would also be a good route
     
  20. pennine465

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    :) :(
     
  21. Ninetofive925

    Ninetofive925 Well-Known Member

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    yeah definetely nothing wrong with that...
     
  22. PlatChap

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    Good points Medelline. I thinking running that bit on Rapid Transit showed me that I would enjoy running a route underground with stations in quick succession. Albeit, the underground portion of RT was fairly short and this is personal opinion.

    I like the idea of maybe setting this route in the past. The consensus on NTP seems to be majority fairly positive and I do enjoy the challenges that comes with older trains. Mastering the machine for the me can add replayability for sure.
     
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  23. LT586

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    The hottest temperature tube line in London, 34 degrees in the summer, the Oven Line people call it.
    Will be nice to experience this from the comfort of my room but it's ATO operation so all the driver does is hit start and the train does itself. The District, Metropolitan and Hammersmith and City Line would make a better operation.

    https://www.davros.org/rail/signalling/articles/central.html
     
  24. Trains4Days

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    What about Piccadilly LT586
     
  25. metr0p0litain

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    ATO doesn't mean that you can't drive by yourself. There are different modes and, for me, this is more challenging to drive:

    Trains have a master switch in the driving cab that can be set to one of three positions:
    • Restricted Manual
    • Coded Manual
    • Automatic
    In Restricted Manual mode the train cannot exceed 18 km/h and the motors cut out at 16 km/h. The ATP and ATO systems are disabled and the driver drives entirely by sight and according to the signals. This mode is used in depots or when the ATP system has failed in some way, and is subject to strict rules. A flashing yellow light on the front of the train indicates this mode.

    In Coded Manual mode the train is being driven by the driver, but the ATP is detecting the codes in the track and restricting his or her actions. The train speedometer (in 1992 Tube Stock, at least) is of the horizontal strip type and shows two speeds - the current speed above in green and the target speed below in orange. Whenever the target speed changes (either at a section boundary or because the code being transmitted has changed) the driver hears a chime - upwards or downwards as appropriate. If the driver exceeds the speed limit for a section, the train will brake automatically until it is both below the limit and the driver presses a flashing "Alarm" button.

    In Automatic mode the train is driven by the ATO system. The driver simply opens and closes the doors and presses the twin "start" button when the train is ready to leave the station. All other operation, including stopping the train at the next station, is done by the automatic systems (though of course the driver has to remain alert in case of obstructions on the line, passengers trapped in the doors, and so forth).

    In all three modes the tripcocks (fitted for use on other lines) are disabled.
    (Found at https://www.davros.org/rail/signalling/articles/central.html)

    I personally have some plans for underground routes but without an editor I can't test things like tunnels and equipments (everything what makes an underground interesting). So, I'm still waiting for more...
     
  26. djos18

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    U R RUDE
     

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