Looking For Something I Have.

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  1. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    The usual problem in the game if you don't know which provider a item of stock is under it is difficult to find.

    So I have some US Style locos that are designed for narrow gauge track
    Anyone know what provider they may be under?
    Screenshot_Pietermaritzburg to Ladysmith_-29.60688-30.32764_09-14-54.jpg
    I think it might be Mexican?

    Screenshot_Pietermaritzburg to Ladysmith_-29.61108-30.36707_09-09-35.jpg
    An SD45 with 8 axle trucks
    Screenshot_Chemin de Fer Corse_42.56434-8.75607_12-02-39.jpg
    A GM Bo-Bo

    Ignore the routes

    Thanks

    Peter
     
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    They look like older Machine Rail products. Do you happen to have a folder under that name in your assets?
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    I do but I only have two Steam locos in it.

    Since posting I found the small Diesel in a GNFO folder so that is ok.
    That loco was payware but the others were Freeware
     
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    That's tricky then. I do recall Machine Rail offering some freeware South American diesels before they got exclusively into steam, but I guess they used different folder names back then.
     
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    triznya.andras Well-Known Member

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    If you open the ScenarioProperties.xml, it lists all trains.
    At the very least it narrows it down.
    To narrow gauge.
    I couldn't resist.
    Sorry.
    Not.
     
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  6. Spikee1975

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    Let us know which ones these are.
     
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    They were a Brazilian developer called Work Simulations long gone.
    The top loco is a GE U20C1, the third pic looks like their EMD G12.I don't have the G12 installed so I'm not 100%.
    I don't have the middle one but it's a EMD DDM45 based off the SD-45 prototypically they ran on the Brazilian 3 ft 3 3⁄8 gauge.
    They also had quite a few Baldwin AS616's and a LEW DE III don't know much about the LEW.

    Some pics here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Narrow_gauge_diesel_locomotives_of_Brazil

    Machine Rail and Diesel Workshop used to be one called 'GNFO trainsim' they had some nice freeware too.
     
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    BRD Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes I get the same problem. I have so many rolling stock that I end up forgetting under which providers are they. It would be interesting if someone was able to do some sort of a web library that would make the search of these things easier. With images and such.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Problem was I did not have a Scenario to place these locos in to - I wanted to but I did not know where to look
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks - that is very helpful :)
    Inside my WorkSim folder I have DDM45, G12, LEW, U20C1 and a couple of freight vehicles

    Peter
     
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    triznya.andras Well-Known Member

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    Are those random pictures, or a quick drive?
    If the latter, you can always search for ScenarioProperties.xml, look at the last one by date.

    There are three relevant nodes:
    • FrontEndDriverList
      Each sDriverFrontEndDetails lists a driveable loco.
      Near its end there is a FilePath tag, content like: Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class47\Green\Engine
    • RequiredSet
      Each iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID references a Provider (DT) and Product (DT_MK1_coaches)
      Without checking I assume that this matches the folder structure.
      These are the items that you tick in when you want to enable using them in the editor. I think.
      Since the scenario is automatically generated, visibility is not relevant.
    • RBlueprintSetPreLoad
      Each iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID references a Provider (RSderek) and Product (WearValleyRailway).
      Yes, probably the very same class internally as the RequiredSet.
      Yes, these two are added to my scenario.
      This latter may miss (lack) some items required by the route itself. In my scenario, Kuju is only among RequiredSets.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    I was trying to use the DDM45 and U20C locos recently and they won't appear in the game.

    I think they need RSC Horseshoe Curve to be activated, which it is, and maybe something else
    But they don't appear when selected.
    The bin file of the DDM45 has very little entries to referring to other DLC.
     
  14. Gary Padley

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    If items don't appear when selected first suspect is a missing, or mis-pathed .GeoPcDx. Check that the path in the loco's .bin file is where the .Geo is installed and that the file names match.
     
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    Looking at this loco Assets\WorkSim\DDM45Pack01\RailVehicles\Diesel\DDM45\DDM45 844 Aguia
    It has a DDM45 Aguia.bin that points at
    <GeometryID d:type="cDeltaString">WorkSim\DDM45Pack01\RailVehicles\Diesel\DDM45\DDM45 Aguia\[00]ddm45</GeometryID>
    The Geo in the same folder is ddm45.GeoPcDx files along with a Textures file

    I have realised there is also another folder called DDM45 Aguia which I think the other bin is looking at
    Inside are identical copies of the DDM45 Aguia.bin and the ddm45.GeoPcDx

    The info in the bin file seems to have not very much apart from a reference to the GeoPcDx file
    Virtually all the other entries don't refer to any other file.

    I had the loco working once and I'm not sure why it does not even appear now.
     
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    Do you mean a Textures folder, or does the loco have just a single texture sheet?

    ..\WorkSim\DDM45Pack01\RailVehicles\Diesel\DDM45\DDM45 844 Aguia\DDM45 Aguia.bin

    is pointing to

    ..\WorkSim\DDM45Pack01\RailVehicles\Diesel\DDM45\DDM45 Aguia\ddm45.GeoPcDx

    Is that Geo in that location?

    If you have two .bin files with the same descriptive name in them only one will show in the available stock list so you may be looking at a completely wrong pair of files.
     
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    Also check where the coupling sections of the .bin point to...a mismatch here will give you just couplings visible.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    No info in the bin file - apart from pointing at the Geo there is no info in the bin files

    I have no idea how it worked before

    <FrontCouplingBlueprintID>
    <iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
    <BlueprintSetID>
    <iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
    <Provider d:type="cDeltaString"></Provider>
    <Product d:type="cDeltaString"></Product>
    </iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
    </BlueprintSetID>
    <BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString"></BlueprintID>
    </iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
    </FrontCouplingBlueprintID>
    <RearCouplingBlueprintID>
    <iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
    <BlueprintSetID>
    <iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
    <Provider d:type="cDeltaString"></Provider>
    <Product d:type="cDeltaString"></Product>
    </iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
    </BlueprintSetID>
    <BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString"></BlueprintID>
    </iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
    </RearCouplingBlueprintID>
     

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