The line runs from ashford to hastings and stops at Ham street, appledore, Rye, Winchelsea, Doleham, Three Oaks and Ore. Its about 60 miles long. It also has a branch down too Dungeness where it is used to transport nuclear waste. (This would be a very interesting scenario in the game). Proposed Rolling Stock Class 171 Turbostar (southern livery) Class 37 in this direct rail services livery with nuclear flasks in consist If anyone has any more ideas you can comment below or if you don't like it make sure to let me know
would that be pre or post single tracking? If it was pre single tracking I'm in. And if its when the speed limit was 100mph I would be even more in for it!
I think the Thumpers worked during both periods. Surely the line speed along there was never that high, 60 or maybe 75 MPH at the max I would have thought. Top speed of the DEMU’s was 75.
It would be better going all the way to Eastbourne, the total length is actually only 43 miles. We've already got all the appropriate stock for layers (Classes 375, 377, 395) so it would be a sensible route choice with a complete timetable if people are willing to put up with another route in the south east containing electrostars (though including the Class 171 would make it somewhat different - rural diesel focus more so than 3rd rail commuter).
Why I suggested a more retro era. You could then pop in VEP's or CIG's if Eastbourne to Ore was included which would certainly appease the, "Not another third rail Electrostar route" brigade (i.e. me!).
Lets go 1986 Ore and Hastings were electrified by that time. You get a 4CEP VEG CIG trains then Thumpers. Hastings Line 4COR
I'm sure the line speed was 100 MPH even if the trains that ran on the line couldn't achieve that speed, That's what it says on wikipedia (with citations)
Yeah, Lydd is an extremely weird place, Reminds me of parts of essex. Shame the railway had to go it would be nice to get the train to dungeness on the train get some chips eat them at the beach and then go back home on the train
I think 1975 would be better since that would be considered the golden age as it was before it was single tracked and without a reduced speed limit.
Yeah, Going all the way to eastbourne would be nice, then we would have the whole service, it would be one of the few times in tsw that you can do a full service like it would be irl. A surprising amount of routes cut the line off half way through rather than letting you drive the whole line.
Most route in the UK "veer off" at some point so it's difficult to find "complete runs" that don't end up in a cul-de-sac somehere or end up in a very busy station that would seem empty. With Brighton and Ashford "almost fully populatable" from existing stock other than the 171 it's possible, unfortunately the line is low use, los speed and the scenery is boring so I don't see it bringing much OTHER than being able to drive from Brighton East to where those trains end, and from Ashford West similarly.
What I mean is that if you catch a train from eastbourne to ashford, when the trains get to the end they turn around and go back the other way rather than going further forward onto brighton, to get to brighton you normally have to switch to an electric train. I would disagree that the line is low speed, currently the trains run at 60 mph which is ok but if it was a historical route from the mid 1970s it used to have speed limits of 100 mph. It is not boring, it has regular stops with cruising in between It passed through many quaint villages. If they built the freight line from dungeness which would allow you to do a scenario where you transport nuclear waste, which I think would be fun because you would have to be very careful.
Those nuclear flasks are near indestructible! I saw a video of class 37 crashing into one at full speed. Nuclear flask 1 class 37 zero.
If you go from Eastbourne to Ashford you're heading the wrong way... but I know what you mean The point is that the line we're discussing is very dull, doesn't really go anywhere of note and the 170 would be more useful in the wider context of TSW than the 171 which is only used by Southern and only on two routes (the other being London Bridge to Uckfield) SO yes, we would have "a full run", but it would be a full run operated in exactly the same fashion every time (there's no expresses) in the same train ad nauseum. I'd prefer to have the 170 which could be used in South Wales, across the Midlands, the North, Scotland, East Anglia... Maybe then add in a cheeky small DLC which adds in the Southern cousin?
Well the only difference between the 2 is that they have different couplings so it would be an easy change. there are different services that run, some trains don't stop at the smaller stations (eg doleham) which get 3 trains a day but the rest of the line get one an hour.
This makes sense to me as the 171s go only as far as Eastbourne from Ashford International. They used to go to Brighton with only 2 coaches, and from personal experience, it was a very uncomfortable ride if you had to stand the whole journey. Now, they have 4 coaches going between Eastbourne and Ashford International, which is a lot better.
Yeah, they already have east coastway ( which includes hastings - eastbourne) so they could actually do a full service
correct and for Marshlink line it's the missing piece between ECW BML to SEHS Extended to Ashford. DTG can bundle them as London to Ashford via Brighton or Southeastern Network pack if CML SEML gets built later on.
It's a class 46 and there are videos about it BBC 2nd video The other locomotive used for a flask is Class 20 DRS Paint Blue Star MU if a Combined Class 37 20 combination were to be sent to run the flask. For the Flask train Class 37 & 20 locomotives DRS the tutorial must cover Blue Star MU system. Achievement wise both Class 37 & 20 DRS counts towards TVL & WCL versions
Thanks for sharing that mate I did think it was a 46 but like others on here have said there have probably been multiple tests with different locos as well.
