Upcoming Release Master The Machine With Tsw3

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  1. DTG Jamie

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  2. Disintegration7

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    Consider me impressed on a first look.
     
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    Congratulations on the reveal you should be very proud of yourselves. Looking forward to TSW3.
     
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  4. tallboy7648

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    Worst kept secret ever. I wonder if dtg just like to leak things. Perhaps it's a rite of passage

    The routes to seem interesting though and it's nice we are getting a proper high speed route rather than a short 30 mile one that can be done in 30 minutes

    It's also nice to know route extensions are now possible now that sehs is being extended
     
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    .... yeah I'm done
     
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  6. flirt745

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    I'm impressed. Nice to see that the classic ICE 1 is coming to Train Sim World 3.
     
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    Finally BNSF. Looking forward to running some newer Locomotives on a no so bad railroad.
     
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  8. SBos

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    So when will TSW2 be fixed? When will the overdue Roadmap come out with updates of all the issues.

    DTG continue to fail it’s customers and now this announcement, Unbelievable.

    Still haven’t fixed the PS5 download issue still haven’t got rushour passengers on London Commuter to name just a couple.
     
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  9. neddyie116

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    Cool trailer and this is released in less than a month:love:
     
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  10. Doomotron

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    £39.99. No free upgrade. Yay. Obviously not going to buy it...
     
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  11. TheTipsyRaccoon

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    Ok, so question one for me is: Will TSW2 now be abandoned, there are a bunch of fixes that have apparently been in the pipeline for months, will they still happen?

    Less than a month until TSW3 releases doesn’t fill me with much confidence.
     
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  12. junior hornet

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    So, does that mean that if I only want the German route and the expanded SEHS (not interested in freight), I only have to buy the German starter pack and I will get the expanded SEHS for free as I already own it in TSW2?

    What is the updated version of Spirit of Steam? I already own it for TSW2 so is there any advantage to buying the deluxe edition?

    At least as a Gamepass member I will be able to try before I buy.
     
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  13. coasterflo

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    Absolute disappointment, what about the patch announced on the Routemap for Achievements in TSW 2?

    Is this now the next Cement Circle situation here?
     
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  14. junior hornet

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    I would expect, nay demand, that current game breaking problems (including missing collectibles that prevent achievements) be fixed for TSW2.

    As for future cosmetic changes and niceties that the pres crew do, I wouldn’t expect them to be backdated to TSW2, although it would be nice if they did.
     
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  15. hamilton

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    So as long as the promises of the Routemap with the Achievements before Xbox are not kept, I'm definitely out what TSW 3 is concerned.

    For a year we want help and then you finally announce it and now ... you go on to TSW 3 and leave us out in the rain ?

    Sad DTG!!!
     
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  16. GuitarMan

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    We will also be releasing ALL existing Train Sim World 2 compatible content at launch, so when you switch to Train Sim World 3 you will be able to play on all of the routes and locos you own from Train Sim World 2.

    This part leaves me hopeful of the updates to TSW2 content coming still...
     
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  17. DTG Jamie

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    We have a 2 Parter Roadmap which the first part releases tomorrow and second on Thursday, which will have all the information about TSW2 and TSW3.
     
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  18. TheTipsyRaccoon

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    I do hope you’re still stressing the importance of working trophies to your bug fix team…
     
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  19. Rudolf

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    I am pissed. It looks like old DLC will still run, but there is no guarantee any progress will be transferred. So collectables progress gone, user created scenarios probably gone, action points gone, achievements gone and you can continue this for a while. It looks like mastery will stay, that is something ...

    It is a bit unclear still for me, i really do not understand why DTG wants to repeat the TSW2 misery again. I do not appreciate that.

    Why not give the core update away and make people play for the new routes? It's so stupid to see this discontinuity.
     
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  20. xboxachievementgroup

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    I'm right there with you. It stood after a long struggle until the fix for the Achievements on the Routemap, now the question is whether DTG keeps this promise.
     
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  21. games4achievements

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    Then let's hope that you (DTG) still stand by your Achievement fix from the Routemap.

    This is a deal breaker for some as far as TSW 3 is concerned.
     
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    DTG Jamie will I be able to use ALL my add ons on ps5 or has that not been a focus for TSW3?
     
  24. TheTipsyRaccoon

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    This is my concern. The speed at which they dropped support for TSW2020 when they announced TSW2 was neck breaking. A bunch of us pushed for months to get them to fix a broken trophy/achievement on the Class 31 DLC, it was painful.
     
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  25. DBklaus

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    That's a shame DTG, the fix was promised to us for the Achievements. We have been writing and waiting for it since Rush Hour release.

    And now you don't even have an answer for us before you announce the next game.
    Then don't be surprised if the trust in DTG is lost.
     
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    You're right, it was almost a year before Cement Circle was fixed.

    I really don't want that to happen again. On the one hand, because this time it was already on the routemap, the problem is known for a year and especially because DTG could also show to learn from the feedback of that time.
     
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    Will you create a thread after the first roadmap so we can add questions not covered?
     
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    What is the updated version of Spirit of Steam: Liverpool Lime Street - Crewe?

    I hope it will be 8th gen consoles getting the extra rolling stock for passenger and freight trains in timetable.
     
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  29. dertobi

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    Also from me a Dislike for the handling of the Achievements in TSW 2.

    I can not look forward to TSW 3 there, if TSW 2 destroys my collection on the profile with 100% :(

    Hopefully there will be an answer tomorrow.
     
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  30. DTG Jamie

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    Updated Version of Spirit of Steam has the updated lighting from TSW3, you won't need to repurchase the route, if you get TSW3 the route will upgrade for free.
     
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    Was really hoping for a new UK route with the extension added later, TSW2 is still broken in many places and what about the Bakerloo line timetable? Is that still getting the upgrade or not? Also if progress isn't transferred again its definitely going to sway my opinion about buying it or not.
     
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  33. nuno.andradegb

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    Eh it was expected. In 2024 there will be TSW4.

    Do I think it’s a money grabbing thing? Not really, because you are getting a decent amount of routes, and an updated code for the price they ask.

    Something that DOES concern me is the fact they mentioned TSW2 DLCs would be available for TSW3. Does this mean the preserved original TSW routes will be abandoned?

    Will I buy it on release? Nop.
    Will I buy it when they release a DLC I like? Maybe.
    Do I want to have a Steam Library that just looks like
    TSW
    TSW2
    TSW3
    TSW…

    Absolutely not.
     
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    It was appalling wasn’t it? I’m glad so far in this thread so many people have announced their displeasure with the timing of this announcement over that fix.

    Remember cement circle was listed on the roadmap too at first and then they just mysteriously went quiet over it.
     
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    The game is on PS4
     

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    ...And the raging and complaining starts just a few minutes into the stream that is still ongoing as I type this, plus two more streams coming in the next two days. Come on, people. At least let DTG finish saying what they have to say first.
     
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    You're right, then it was "We'll fix it in TSW 2 because you have the route there too".

    The problem is, it doesn't bring to complete TSW 2020, which is why there was almost a year of discussion.

    I was also hoping DTG would learn from this feedback, but to preface it.

    The Achievement fix is needed for TSW 2 so that collectors can achieve all Achievements / Trophies in TSW 2. A pure fix for TSW 3 brings nothing, because TSW 2 would still be "incomprehensible".
     
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    By the way, I think it's a shame that all Achievement and Trophy can't look forward to TSW 3 now, because this fix or its future are unclear.

    Instead of looking forward to TSW3 we must now fear that we are no longer helped with TSW 2. Very sad DTG.
     
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    What about all the promised updates fixes for TSW2? Like the 187, Cl150 etc etc
     
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    without MP / Ko-Op, Announcement, Ebula.... and 60/35€? Never.
     
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    So what about all the bug fixes they promised would come after the SoS release? Is TSW 2 still gonna get those updates or not?
     
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    I‘d be interested how it‘ll work with achievements from TSW2 due to the limit. Will all achievements be available on TSW3 (that‘ll be silly cause it‘ll be near limit from start on)? Or play Addons on TSW3 and unlock achievements in TSW2? Or will achievements only be unlockable in TSW2 which would make a need to play this on for a long instead of moving forward?

    And what‘ll be with TSW-profile? Start over again or will it be kept this time?
     
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    Hey, I somewhat guessed right, It was Cajon Pass.
     
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    Very disappointed, to be honest.

    DTG, why do you have this obsession with the south east and third rail routes for the UK? This was a golden opportunity to put something new and much requested like part of the WCML in the game. The German route is a non-iconic complete non entity to me, little to no interest in driving it as opposed to the several routes which were mentioned around Innsbruck etc. during the teaser stream.

    Cajon, well you are going to have to work hard to beat Run 8. Will West Colton Yard and Barstow Yard be included? Will they feature working hump operations? Will local industry service (drop cars off and pick up later when loaded/unloaded) be supported? Or will it be A to B runs with a few pointless switching scenarios to add interest?

    At best I might pick this up if it goes down to sale price at Christmas or Easter next year.

    Until then, think I'll be sharing my hobby allowance between third party devs for TSC and 3DTS/Run 8. (And SCS software).
     
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    Since I own TSW2 DLC routes will they run on TSW3 like Harlem Line and Riesa-Dresden? Speaking of Kassel Würzburg can that give services to Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr TSW3 version or not. Will there be a Deluxe edition route an International one something like Duisburg Oberhausen Utrecht 156km 96 mi.
     
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  47. shanesrenaski13

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    Cajon Pass + C4 + Volumetric skies + Dynamic Weather + New Lighting

    I'm happy.
     
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    I'm sad it doesn't have an Amtrak P42DC and a superliner.
     
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  49. steamfan#1309

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    Question: will there be a US steam route?
    There is one and it is British, it would be great if there was variety. Yes, I am aware it should be put under the suggestion forums, but we (the people) have been ignored upon all of our requests.
     
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    I'm with most people here about the trophies/achievements/preservation fixes promised for train some world 2. They need to be fixed before ill even consider purchasing the new game
     
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