Metra Chicago Routes

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by MetroMad1229, Sep 11, 2021.

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  1. The Racetrack

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  2. SouthWest Service

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  3. Milwaukee District West

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  4. Milwaukee District North

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  5. Rock Island District

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  6. All of the above

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  7. North Central Service

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  1. MetroMad1229

    MetroMad1229 Active Member

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    Intro
    Hello Dovetail, I have got a route suggestion. Metra is really similar to Caltrain because their freight and passenger locomotives are really similar but in the same way, very different because Caltrain only owns 1 route and Metra owns around 7. I really love seeing similar routes and if this comes out I cannot wait. Other than that, let's get right in!

    LOCOMTIVES THAT RUN ON ALL METRA DIESEL ROUTES

    METRA F40PH
    Like the F40PH-2CAT on Peninsula Corridor, the F40PH-3 and F40PH-2 are older designs. The length is much shorter and they don't have HEP generators, which means that they sound much louder. The difference is that the F40PH-2 is numbered between 130-184
    Manufacturer: Electro Motive Division
    Build date: 1975-1992
    Rebuilt: 2015-2020
    Length: 56 ft
    Top speed: 103-110mph
    Horse Power: 3,200
    F40PH-2 Numbered: 130-184
    PICTURES OF THE F40PH-3

    CLASSIC LOGO
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    RESTORED LOGO
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    PICTURE OF THE F40PH-2
    THEY ONLY HAVE THE CLASSIC LOGO
    [​IMG]
    CAB INTERIOR
    [​IMG]
    This is what the horn and bell on an F40PH sound like


    Bi-Level Gallery Cars
    Bi-Level Gallery Cars are officially the same as the ones on Peninsula Corridor, but they have different cabs, the Metra cab cars have the controls in the front instead of the side, and plus ‘Caution the doors are about to close’ sounds much different.
    [​IMG]
    CAB INTERIOR
    [​IMG]

    Here is a Metra cab-car K3LA horn


    SERVICES FROM THE SOUTHERN TERMINUS

    Passenger locomotives that run here
    • F40PH
    • F40PHM
    Loco info
    METRA F40PHM
    The F40PHM-2 is officially the F40PH except it doesn't have a hood, it has a sloped cab. It is also officially the Metra version of the F69PHAC, I'm not 100% sure about that, this was just my big guess. And also, like I said before, if it's the F40PHM-2, then it has the older logo, and if its an F40PHM-3 then it has the restored logo on it.
    Manufacturer: Electro Motive Division
    Build date: 1991-1992
    Rebuilt: 2015-2020
    Length: 56 ft
    Top speed: 103-110mph
    Horse Power: 3,200
    Numbered: 185-214

    F40PHM-2
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    F40PHM-3
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    Metra owns 118 F40s in total. Metra owns 118 F40s in total. The F40PHM-2 has the classic logo and the F40PHM-3 has the restored logo. A heritage livery can also be found on F40PHM 211.
    [​IMG]
    I really hope you can make this livery. If not, then we can just go into livery designer and make it.
    This is what the horn and bell sound like (same P5 horn as F40PH)


    BNSF locomotives that are used for mainline freight from the Southern Terminus are,
    • SD70ACE
    • SD70MAC
    • ES44AC
    • ET44C4
    Freight Trains
    BNSF locomotives that are used for local freight on the Racetrack are,
    • EMD GP60
    • EMD GP50
    • EMD GP40
    • EMD GP38
    Some point maybe they could add BNSF mainline freight as DLC for this route.

    If you know how on Peninsula Corridor that the main freight trains are Union Pacific, well it's really hard to explain but I find it really interesting that its a locomotive by a different company and on a different route. If you don't get me, I mean the GP38 is the same locomotive as the one on Peninsula Corridor (Union Pacific), but it's BNSF and they own more locomotives. BNSF operates 50 trains per day on The Racetrack. The GP38-2 is a local freight train. The local freight trains

    The freight that is usually seen get pulled on the Racetrack is
    • Intermodal
    • Manifest
    • Grain
    • Crude Oil
    • Coal
    I love seeing local locomotives with boxy looking cabs as freight locomotives as freight trains for the route, and F40PHs as passenger trains for the route, if that makes sense.

    GP60
    Manufacturer: Electro Motive Division
    Build Date: 1985-1994
    Length: 59 ft
    Top Speed: 65mph
    Horsepower: 3,800
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    GP50
    Manufacturer: Electro Motive Division
    Build Date: 1980-1985
    Length: 59 ft
    Top Speed: 65mph
    Horsepower: 3,500-3,600
    [​IMG]

    GP40
    Manufacturer: Electro Motive Division
    Build Date: 1965-1971
    Length: 59 ft
    Top Speed: 65mph
    Horsepower: 3,000
    [​IMG]

    GP38
    Manufacturer: Electro Motive Division
    Build Date: 1972-1986
    Length: 59 ft
    Top Speed: 65mph
    Horsepower: 2,000
    [​IMG]

    Switchers and in total
    • SW1500: 5
    • GP23: 2
    • SW1200: 1

    THE RACETRACK
    Route Information
    The Racetrack, also know as the BNSF rail line, is a line owned by BNSF that runs from Chicago to Aurora. The passenger trains are owned by Metra, and for the freight trains, they are owned by BNSF. The line has a total of 70mph for passenger trains and 45mph for freight trains. It's a total of 37 miles long.

    All Stops
    • Union Station
    • Cicero
    • Berwyn
    • Riverside
    • Brookfield
    • La Grange
    • Western Springs
    • Hinsdale
    • Clarendon Hills
    • Westmont
    • Fairview Ave.
    • Downers Grove
    • Belmont
    • Lisle
    • Naperville
    • Route 59
    • Aurora
    Passenger Trains
    I want to see the Racetrack Aurora - Chicago Metra route in TSW2. The reason why I wanna see this route is because, once again, I love routes that are similar to Peninsula Corridor and I really wanna see more commuter F40s from other routes. Well I wanna see the F40PHM come with the route. And the Metra paint scheme for the F40 should be both paint schemes of the F40PH and the new one for the F40PHM-2. And the coaches, they are Nippon Sharyo Bi-Level Gallery Cars. 150 daily trains run on this line.

    For the services that don't run all the way to Aurora,
    • 5 trains to Route 59
    • 1 train to Naperville
    • 1 train to Downers Grove
    • 5 trains to Fairview Avenue
    • 3 trains to Westmont
    • 1 train to Brookfield

    Most Express trains stop at 2-6 stations.


    DLC that should be added sometime for the Southern Terminus
    • The Racetrack BNSF Mainline freight (SD70ACE, SD70MAC, ES44AC and ET44C4 come altogether (like in BR freight for Tees Valley Line)
    • Metra Switcher Fleet (SW1500, GP23 and SW1200)
    • Amtrak services such as The California Zephyr, The Southwest Chief and The Amtrak Midwest.
    Why should this route get added? I know I've said this too much but it's similar to Peninsula Corridor and similar routes are the best and I'd wanna see more Commuter F40s come to TSW2.

    SERVICES FROM THE NORTHERN TERMINUS

    Passenger locomotives that run there
    • F40PH
    • F59PH
    • F59PHI
    • MP36PH-3C
    Loco info
    MP36PH-3C
    Manufacturer: MPI
    Build date: 2003
    Upgraded to 3C's: 2015
    Length: 60ft
    Horse Power: 3,600
    Top Speed: 82-102mph

    [​IMG]
    This is the horn and bell on the MP36PH-3C (horn still is a P5 like the F40PH).

    Heritage liveries that can be found on MP36PH-3Cs are from numbers,

    402

    [​IMG]

    405
    [​IMG]

    425
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    Freight trains
    If you know how I said in The Racetrack that I want quite a few BNSF locomotives for local and mainline freight, well I think Canadian Pacific AC4400CWs would be suitable for this route.
    Manufacturer: General Electric
    Build date: 1993-2004
    Length: 73 ft
    Horse Power: 4,400
    Top Speed: 70 mph
    [​IMG]

    MILWAUKEE DISTRICT: WEST LINE

    Route Information
    The Milwaukee District West Line is owned by Metra and dispatched by Canadian Pacific. The Milwaukee District West line runs from Chicago Union Station to Big Timber Road. The line has a top speed of 70mph for passenger and 50mph for freight.

    Route Length: 40m

    All Stops
    • Union Station
    • Western Avenue.
    • Grand / Cicero.
    • Hanson Park.
    • Galewood.
    • Mars.
    • Mont Clare.
    • Elmwood Park.
    • River Grove
    • Franklin Park
    • Mannheim
    • Bensenville
    • Wood Dale
    • Itasca
    • Medinah
    • Roselle
    • Schaumburg
    • Hanover Park
    • Bartlett
    • National Street
    • Elgin
    • Big Timber Road
    Passenger trains
    West line
    For the trains that do not terminate at Big Timber Road,
    • 3 trains to Elgin
    • 2 trains to Franklin Park
    • 1 train to Barlett
    • 1 train to National Street

    MILWAUKEE DISTRICT: NORTH LINE
    This line is again owned by Metra and dispatched by Canadian Pacific. The line has a total of 70mph for passenger and 50mph for freight. It's a total of 49.7 miles long.

    Milwaukee District North line runs from Chicago Union Station to Fox Lake.

    All Stops
    • Union Station
    • Western Avenue
    • Healy
    • Grayland
    • Mayfair
    • Forest Glen
    • Edgebrook
    • Morton Grove
    • Golf
    • Glenview
    • Glen of North Glenview
    • Northbrook
    • Lake Cook Road
    • Deerfield
    • Lake Forest
    • Libertyville
    • Prairie Crossing/Libertyville
    • Grayslake
    • Round Lake
    • Long Lake
    • Ingleside
    • Fox Lake
    NORTH CENTRAL SERVICE LINE
    This line is again owned by Metra. The line has a top speed of 70mph for passenger and 50mph for freight. This line goes from Chicago Union Station to Antioch. It is a total of 52 miles long.

    This line once again owned by Metra and dispatched by Canadian Pacific. The line has a total of 70mph for passenger and 50mph for freight.

    All Stops
    • Union Station
    • Western Avenue
    • River Grove
    • Belmont Ave / Franklin Park
    • Schiller Park
    • Rosemont
    • O'Hare Transfer
    • Prospect Heights
    • Wheeling
    • Buffalo Grove
    • Prairie View
    • Vernon Hills
    • Mundelein
    • Prairie Crossing / Libertyville
    • Washington St. / Grayslake
    • Round Lake Beach
    • Lake Villa
    • Antioch
    North Central Services do not stop at any of the intermediate between Western Avenue and River Grove.

    Adding North Central services on this line would add an additional 21 services, adding up to about 79 passenger trains running on this section of the line.

    ROCK ISLAND DISTRICT
    The Rock Island District is still part of the Northern Terminus except it's Union Station is above the Union Station that I was talking about before. The line is 40 miles from Chicago to Rock Island. This line has a total of 70mph.

    All Stops
    • LaSalle Street Station
    • 35th St. - Lou Jones
    • Gresham
    • 95th St. - Longwood
    • 103 St., Washington Hts
    • Brainerd
    • Beverly Hills - 91st Street
    • Beverly Hills - 95th Street
    • Beverly Hills - 99th Street
    • Bervely Hills - 103rd Street
    • Beverly Hills - 107th Street
    • Morgan Park - 111th Street
    • Morgan Park - 115th Street
    • 119th St.
    • 123rd St.
    • Prairie St.
    • Blue Island - Vermont St.
    • Robbins
    • Midlothain
    • Oak Forest
    • Tinley Park
    • Tinley Park - 80th Ave
    • Hickory Creek
    • Mokena
    • New Lenox
    • Joilet

    DLC that should be added sometime for the Northern Terminus
    • F59PH
    • F59PHI
    • Amtrak Empire Builder

    Conclusion
    If they add this route to the game, that would be really exiting. If this gets added I cannot wait. I'm sure that they can renew their licensing, because like I said quite a few times, Dovetail should be able to improve their stuff. The year it should be set in should be between 2017-2021. In the reply box, please do not say that it can't be added because of licensing issues. Hope you enjoyed listening, have an AWSOME DAY!
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2021
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  2. Coastway trainspotter

    Coastway trainspotter Well-Known Member

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    Please add more details , such as route length , what year it should be set in , major stations , and more info about the rolling stock
     
  3. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Wont happen, DTG could not get a Metra License for TS1, not to mention the BNSF licensing issue...
     
  4. MetroMad1229

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    I'm sure that dovetail could renew their BNSF liscensing. I've heard this from quite a few people.
     
  5. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Its not that it isn't renewed, a recent video from DTG shows BNSF as a parter for them, but they can't sell BNSF content outside the US as seen in TS1. Because of this DTG will most likely never make a route featuring BNSF unless that is ever resolved.

    And I believe its been stated for TSW2, that DTG won't make unbranded content for TSW2.
     
  6. MetroMad1229

    MetroMad1229 Active Member

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    I edited my post. Hopefully this is better.
     
  7. Jonne1184

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    Cannot really tell why, but I find the Metra F40PHM to look absolutely great. Espacially the new livery.
     
  8. CrazyDash

    CrazyDash Well-Known Member

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    I made a video talking about the racetrack as a route suggestion. Rather find it on my channel, or look at my forum post if you’re interested
     
  9. MetroMad1229

    MetroMad1229 Active Member

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    CrazyDash I already checked it out. I'm the guy who thanked you for creating the video and stuff. I really hope they do it. Does anyone know if it's just BNSF that has the licensing issues or if it's Metra as well?
     
  10. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    No Metra branding appeared on the route for the TS21 version, no matter where you lived.
     
  11. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    However, some enterprising modders quickly introduced the Metra logo for anyone to download. (Unofficially, of course.)
     
  12. MetroMad1229

    MetroMad1229 Active Member

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    Would there still be licensing issues if they added the Metra Milwaukee District West line?
     
  13. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    Any use of the Metra logo is prohibited currently. And DTG's policy is not to release unbranded dlc, at least on TSW.
     
  14. ehz0689

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    BNSF doesn't want anything to do with the game. Dovetail has no say in it
     
  15. MetroMad1229

    MetroMad1229 Active Member

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    Also I forgot to mention, please do not say that it can't be added because of the BNSF licensing issues, for those of you who did, please don't worry about it because you said it before I said this.
     
  16. trainmasteraiden

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    Can you make an update it with Metra MP36PH Blacktop Metra F40PHM-2 Blacktop And Metra F59PHI?




     
  17. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    All of the above because these will offer another route to run existing Gallery coaches to run on this time Metra paint.
     
  18. jedi247

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    The Racetrack is my choice because of BNSF. I really want the ET44C4, GP60, and Metra F40 and Cab Car.
     
  19. trainmasteraiden

    trainmasteraiden Active Member

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    Will never happen because of licensing issues with Metra
     
  20. Jonne1184

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    Any source for that, or just speculation?
     
  21. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Metra never granted DTG licensing for the 3rd Party route for TS, so that license most likely hasn't carried over to TSW as well.
     
  22. MetroMad1229

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    I wouldn't care at all if Metra released unbranded.
     
  23. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure DTG said they wont do that either.

    At most you would get a route with both a Freight Operator and Amtrak, with a layer for Caltrains F40's and Nippon Sharyo Gallery Cars added on to represent Metra like the Caltrain stock will be for Go Trains on Oakville Sub.
     
  24. MetroMad1229

    MetroMad1229 Active Member

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    If DTG really can't get a licence for Metra, then maybe we're most likely gonna get a historic version of a Metra route.

    Here are some images I found.
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