Since DTG and or 3rd parties only want to make EMUs (with locos probably being a rare case now). Sure. But since most of the current selections are all modern EMUs. With noticeable Class 314 and Class 313 being from the PEP family and could classify as "Older EMUs". But thats it. With these older EMUs being a dying breed now and that we should get some more older EMUs to the game in contrast to most of current era EMUs. For those who say. "uh some of the trains mentioned here have already been scrapped, DTG or 3rd Parties won't be able to make them." If BR era routes exist in TSW then I am for sure DTG or 3rd Parties can find a way to create these now scrapped or long gone EMUs. Starting with the MK3 EMU trains: The Class 317 The class 317 last ran with Greater Anglia with I believe one cab of a class 317 is left in a museum. They run out from London Liverpool Street (see the class 321 section to see why I want the class 317 to be also added in) to Cambridge and much other stations along the Great Eastern Mainline. The Class 318s All of the Class 318s are currently running with ScotRail on the Ayrshire Coast Line, Inverclyde Line and the Argyle Line. And there are currently 21 of these. This year we have 2 DLCs from ScotRail, that is the ScotRail Class 170 on the Fife Circle Line and soon the Class 380s on the Cathcart Circle and at this point why not try and complete the entire ScotRail fleet, its one step closer to finishing their fleet. And to get one step closer we move on to- The Class 321s and the Class 320s Last time the Class 321 operated passenger services is with Greater Anglia before they got shafted by the Class 720s. They once run on the Great Eastern Main Line out of London Liverpool Street. And I think if DTG or a 3rd Party can make backdated Great Eastern Main Line. I think it should take in a time before the Class 720, Class 745, Class 755 entered service and when Greater Anglia is still running them. Which includes the Class 321, Class 90+MK3 and DVT, Class 379, Class 317, Class 315, Class 360, Class 322 (they are pretty much the same as the Class 321 but i believe the interior is different?), these classes are all that runs out from London Liverpool Street. So much more variety in terms of traction. As for the class 320s, they are simply Class 321s but 3 cars without the TSO. And they are still in operation with ScotRail on the North Clyde Line and Argyle Line with some are converted Class 321 to Class 320. So if DTG or 3rd parties can make either class, they either make or remove the TSO and put it with a different livery. Depending on which they make first. And making the class 320 and class 318 could get TSW closer to having all of Scotrail's fleet in the game. And if they needed references for class 321. I believe Varamis Rail might be able to help with that, just not the passenger interior though. Next up the Class 319 (i am ignoring the class 769) If I am not mistaken, most of the Class 319s have already been converted into Class 769s. With the last of them running with Northern and LNWR. For Northern they ran Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Victoria, Wigan North Western to Huyton, and from Manchester Victoria to Blackpool North. As for LNWR, they run out of London Euston and as far as Milton Kenyes Central if I am not mistaken. I personally would like to see the WCML being made and having LNWR's Class 319 to be running along side the Class 350. Just so that we could make use of their top speed and racing it along side Class 390s and hearing the roar of their GEC motors. The Class 455 These are currently still running with SWR, with consist of 83 of these unit running with variants of Class 455/7, 455/8 and 455/9. These trains run out of London Waterloo and serving Guildford, Hampton Court, Kingston, Richmond, Twickenham, Wimbledon, Windsor & Eton Riverside and Woking (if I missed a few please do tell). And not to mention the class 455 that has a special BR blue livery, Class 455 868. With these old EMUs getting kicked out by Class 701s soon. I really hope DTG or 3rd party developer would be able to make a SWR route that can make use of them. Along side the Class 450, Class 458, Class 444 and Class 158, (with addition of Class 701 if they can). Now the PEP family of trains 3 are left to be made to finish up the PEP trains and starting with The class 315 last operated by TFL on the line between London Liverpool Street and Shenfield. These are kind of just Class 314 but with an additional TSO. Again can go along side with the Class 317 and Class 321 during the right time period on the Great Eastern Mainline. Sounds could simply be reused from the Class 313 and or Class 314. And lastly Class 507 and Class 508 While Class 508s are sadly no more, it was last operated along with Class 507 by Merseyrail before the Class 777 has kick them in the bin. Before the class 777 entered service, the 2 covered the entire network of Merseyrail. The 2 classes can be operated with each other in pairs too. The difference from other PEPs are their headlights. Unlike the Class 313/2, both class 507 and 508 doesnt have a car with a pantagraph well as they only operate on 3rd Rail DC. Maybe DTG or some 3rd party developer can heavily modify the class 313 into the class 507 and class 508? and to also mention the class 507 001 in their BR blue livery and will be preserved. So if anybody needs to get reference for either, the class 507 would be the best for reference if any Merseyrail line is considered to be made. I personally however only the class 318, class 320, class 455, class 507 have the better chances of being made being that well they are in service still. What do you think? Could TSW have more older EMUs along side the Class 313/2 and Class 314? If DTG or any 3rd Party developers do plan on making them, the sooner they get references for these trains the better, as they don't have much time left on the railway now.
Don't forget the prototype 2 and 4 car PEP EMUs for the Southern Region in the Class 446 and 445 respectively.
Thought they are just prototypes. And to my knowledge they only have 1 set each is it not? I dont think its necessary to add them? At least not yet anyway unless DTG or a 3rd party developer would make a br era route where the 2 is still running.
I would prefer DTG avoid niche prototypes. Certainly for now. There's tonnes of common traction that needs to come to the game. I hope that we get some routes to run these on too. Not enough AC electric routes yet.
In terms of this case (and try to keep this fourm a bump). You think maybe the GEML taking place during before the 745/755/720 enter service would be the better idea? Or do you think the WCML? Most likely the GEML?
I have my favourites but to be honest, any of the routes from Fenchurch Street, Liverpool Street, Kings Cross, St Pancras or Euston would be good so long as they're long enough to make a realistic driving shift. We have WCML/MML/ECML/GEML southern sections in TSC and they're all popular routes so much so that there are upgrades/extensions available or pending release for all of them. Also happy with any era from the 1970s onwards. It feels like a big gap in TSW, an AC OHL mainline from "North of the River".
