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Munchen-augsburg Pretty Much Unplayable On Ps4

Discussion in 'PlayStation Discussion' started by simongilford, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. simongilford

    simongilford Well-Known Member

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    Constant lag and freezes.

    Major pop-ins, not just from distant objects either - whole tower blocks can just appear when you're almost on top of them, same with some overhead gantries.

    Even turning your head can sometimes lag and judder.

    It's not good. At least for me.
     
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  2. leewood83

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    Same unfortunately did the tutorial and FPS by far the lowest i have had hopefully be acknowledged today.
     
  3. Gilly

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    That's sad to hear. Looks like another one to avoid till it's fixed/ improved. You could have had £50 out of me this month DTG instead looks like I'm left with drugs or women to waste it on!
     
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  4. mshor31293

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    They couldn't have tested this on consoles I know they will say they did but for me to release something in this state is just a joke and an insult to the community in general.
     
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  5. simongilford

    simongilford Well-Known Member

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    And then there's the strange passenger behaviour, these passengers got off the train and all just stood there. Some of them simply disappeared, the rest stayed like that even after the train left the station.

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  6. simongilford

    simongilford Well-Known Member

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    I agree. And I'm sure most of the community wouldn't actually mind if the console versions were launched a week or two after PC if it gave DTG a little more time to tune and polish them.

    It seems to be the rush to get all three versions out on the same day that means console versions sometimes get crappy implementations.
     
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  7. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    People are reporting that all the layers are active on PS4/PS4 Pro. Maybe this is causing the lag as they weren’t supposed to be active.
     
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  8. simongilford

    simongilford Well-Known Member

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    Erm, what are 'layers'? I've seen them mentioned, but don't actually know what they are. :)
     
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  9. heyitspopcorn

    heyitspopcorn Well-Known Member

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    Basically, using trains/locomotives from other German routes to add additional train services to Munchen-Augsburg :)
     
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  10. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    So each timetable is a layer. On the PS4/PS4 Pro we should only have the ICE 3, S3 and S4 timetables. The RB and Freight services should be locked down as they were known to be causing memory problems. It seems like they’ve been unlocked in error.
     
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  11. simongilford

    simongilford Well-Known Member

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    Ah I understand, thanks.
     
  12. leewood83

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    That's a good shout.
     
  13. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

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    Another whopper from DTG, they are the gift which keeps on giving. Sounds like this is another DLC I'm glad I didn't buy.
     
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  14. simongilford

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  15. Trainmania100

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    Definately won't be buying this at £25 then
     
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  16. ehrenholt

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    Its a back door like GWE
     
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  17. Rail Runner

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    Wow. Glad I haven’t bought that then.
    Am definitely going to get it, but maybe when it has been ironed out.
     
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  18. Trainmania100

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    Dovetail ought to let people test the products a couple of months before release to fix any bugs
     
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  19. byeo

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    That's what they do but charge people for the privilege.
     
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  20. Maxrom

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    Those with performance issue, are you using PS4 or PS4 Pro? Also do you have the extra layers enabled?
     
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  21. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    I was looking forward to buying this route later, but if it’s unplayable on PS4/PS4 Pro, I might wait it out until I know more.
     
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  22. byeo

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    I think this should be the standard thing people do from now on. Let DTG released a dlc wait until they fix it into a playable state then buy if you like the look of it.
     
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  23. simongilford

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    PS4 Pro. Only the ICE 3 and 423 show as selectable trains for me.
     
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  24. Bob12212

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    Interesting. Any particular part of the route? Or just bad performance generally?
     
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    From what I've seen so far, it seems to be mostly the area between Pasing and Munich. Perhaps someone could provide more info than I?
     
  26. Maxrom

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    Also, are we talking game breaking stuff here or small stutters. I get small stutters on SKA at speed, and it doesn’t bother me. But if we’re talking game breaking stuff or constant low FPS then that’s not good.
     
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  27. longo239

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    Who's turn at DTG is it to make the post release apology?
     
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  28. Maxrom

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    Although, having watched the Train Sim live stream last night, which had FPS so low you could almost count it, this is going to have to be pretty bad to be any worse than that...!
     
  29. Bob12212

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    Probably the amount of track and signals in that area. Something like 3000 signals if I remember from the stream?
     
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  30. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully we’ll get some comment from DTG soon. When a new route is released, I think they should be more active in the forum, similar to how they did it on TSW 2 launch day.
     
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  31. Gilly

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    That'll do it! Impressive as it is, do we actually need that many in order to run it? We don't have the extra layers so why the need for so many?
     
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  32. Maxrom

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    Looks reasonably good on a PS4 on this video, although the fps does dip quite a lot at times. I'm not fussed about super high fps and zero stutters, provided I can still have a fun time playing it. So long as it's not a horror show of performance then I'm ok. Maybe my expectations are a little lower as I grew up playing Southern Belle on the Speccy... :D

    The video shows a standard PS4, not a PS4 Pro which may work better??

    EDIT - Look at 1h03m15s on that video for some wicked pop in, including a magically appearing station. That's not ideal. Performance goes down the toilet a bit after that as well.

     
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  33. DTG Natster

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    I could do with a little more information from you.

    As far as you are aware could you let me know if you have layers activated as I'm seeing some posts here stating some of you do? Could those of you experiencing problems also confirm you are using PlayStation?

    To avoid spamming this thread please feel free to DM me.
     
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  34. DTG Natster

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    We have a known issue in chapter 3 where it activates all services (layers) in the game. This will cause a performance drop.
    If your service count reads greater than 330 restart the game and your performance will return to normal. We expect to have this fixed soon.
    For those wondering, this is why we don't have all layers available on console.
     
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  35. simongilford

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    I have 338 services available after restarting the game, those are for just the 2 trains ICE 3 and BR423.
     
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    LOL - Sad but true.
     
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  37. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    It’s probably Phyllis, the tea-lady’s turn today. Everyone else has had a go.
     
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    It would be a bit weird if they’ve put functioning signals on track that is never used even when all the layers are on. Looking forward to all the single track routes that will be coming out if they don’t get this kind of thing sorted. No complicated track layouts, no pesky layers getting in the way, just the player’s train and a couple of passing points for the AI coming in the opposite direction. Imagine all routes being like Isle of Wight or West Somerset. It’ll be awesome.
     
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  39. antony.henley

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    Well sorry to burst your bubble but they did. This is where they found out about the extra layers issue on the PS4 as well as the xbox.

    Hentis
     
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  40. Maxrom

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    Just before anyone takes it seriously, I've fixed it for you :D
     
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  41. Rail Runner

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    Considering the small stutters at speed, I notice it on SKA, but then removing the HUD makes it so much better. Will it be the same for this? Or is it just terrible all together?
     
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    me too but only 325 are showing from default
     
  43. matthewbguilford

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    They have to at least test something on console as you couldn’t release something you haven’t tested at all. This route does take a big frame rate hit most noticeable in Munich. The way I feel is its not ideal but I do know they have explained that they need to straighten out some memory issues on consoles. I will still enjoy this route.
     
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    I've decided against getting this route for now, and have instead opted to buy RRO which also adds some nice traffic and new services to SKA. Once more reviews are in, and maybe after a fix or two, I'll pick it up if things seem better, but I'm out for the moment.
     
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    RRO is actually one of my favourites
     
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  46. Mat_Jam_Ca

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    I’ve just downloaded my preserved routes but resisted buying MAG/HMA for the time being.
     
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    I let a release day purchase damper my last Thursday, not happening again.
     
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    But RRO is broken in TSW 2 with the Destination Board System on the 422
     
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    That won't ruin anything for me. Sure, it would be good to have them correct, but it's just a cosmetic thing, which I can't even see when I'm driving, so I'm good.
     
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    And they still released it when it was running this badly , something wrong in itself there
     
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