New Us Route Coming??

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  1. Jay8292

    Jay8292 New Member

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    So I saw an email mentioning something about a new US route coming, does anyone know what it will be??
     
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    no(t yet)
     
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    Nope, I assume that’s an announcement for the December roadmap
     
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  4. Jay8292

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    Darn it
     
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    Hopefully it’s sooner
     
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    Just letting you know it's in the 0-3 months category so if long, we could be waiting a bit.
     
  7. Jay8292

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    thank you
     
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    I suspect we will find out what it is soon after the DTG German route is released.
     
  9. amtraknick1993

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    I know me personally, and I think a lot of others, would love to see a route with both decent passenger AND freight options. Antelope Valley is just a poor representation of this, especially with how the freight layering works on it. The fact you have to spend additional money on other DLC if you don’t already have it is beyond lame. It would not have been difficult to include the correct freight layering with the route. I want to see a new US route that offers a good variety of both passenger and freight. I wouldn’t mind seeing another Metrolink route down the road to use that DLC on, considering Metrolink operates on 7 different lines and over 500 miles of track, much of which operates with decent freight operations, like Los Angeles-San Bernardino via Fullerton. This is the gateway to Cajon Pass and the main route for BNSF trains heading east out of California. It seems like a lot of time, effort, and work were put into the Metrolink DLC just for one single route. And I know I speak for a lot of us when I say we have been begging for long distance Amtrak DLC. P42s, Chargers (even though the Chargers suck compared to P42s), Superliners, baggage cars. I guess time will tell. The roadmap shows more than one US DLC coming.
     
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    If I had to take a guess, I have a feeling we may be getting the Pacific Surfliner as the next US route. I remember in one of the roadmap streams from the days of TSW2, Matt mentioned something about the Pacific Surfliner route as a possibility sometime in the future. If not the Surfliner route, perhaps the New Haven line. If the route relies on current DLC, it could be something Amtrak or Metro North related for either of the next 2 US routes. I could be completely wrong but that is what I think might be coming if I had to guess.
     
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    Thank you I really am curious to find out lol
     
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    yeah I agree and I would really like to see more metrolink routes
     
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    the metro north route would be great but hopefully they can layer it with the other NYC metro routes
     
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    BNSF Marceline Subdivision would be cool. Driving the Gevos or SD70s with 70 mph means that it would be a racetrack for freight trains.
     
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    Man, I would love an US freight route that finally is not a 30 MPH snoozefest. I love the open section on SPG where you can go up to 50 MPH, but it's so short. We really need a route like that.
     
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    I'd love to have a amtrak siemens charger locomotive, the F125 is good but it's not the same to me.
     
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    Currently I think the fastest US freight route in game is either Sherman Hill or Cajon Pass with speeds between 55 and 60 mph
     
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    Would be perfect for the rumoured Pacific Surfliner dlc as they primarily use Chargers.
     
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    Speed limit wise yes, but due to the weight of the trains, you are happy if you can go at 30MPH max.
     
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    Raritan Valley Line. It would layer in another line on New Jersey Transit and bring freight (both CSX and Norfolk Southern) to NJT. It uses GP40PH-2, PL42AC and ALP-45 locos as well as Comet and MultiLevel coaches.

    Freight runs through Union and Roselle Park stations as well as alongside Bound Brook station where the occasional BNSF train shows up.

    It also makes use of the lower level at Secaucus Junction which is BADLY needed.
     
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    depends on the licenses already in DTG's possession, including licenses to the rolling stock, whether it will be something new alltogether or just a remake of something existing using a new stretch of track
     
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    Most definitely, If they choose Metro North, I Hudson Line would be the best candidatr
    I think this is possible. DTG can definitely create the Comet coaches, GP40PH-2 and ALP45-DP since they created it a few years ago for Train Simulator Classic
     
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    Yes essentially westbound trains. Next time I will use Free Roame and will put 2 additional locos on the top of the train. :)
     
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    Yes and a new Gevo or SD70 varariant would be nice too.
     
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    And for the case, that it will be a passenger route again only, we should get an Amtrak route with the Genesis. The Genesis is iconic and impressive. Much more than the rest of the other passenger Locos except the Acela.
     
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  26. amtraknick1993

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    I definitely agree. We need a route to run long distance Amtrak on. This has been requested for so long. There never really has been good P42s or Superliners made for any Train Sim. The ones in TSC, specifically the RSC Empire Builder ones and the DTG Miami ones, have all had flaws. We need a really good one. That’s completely prototypical and doesn’t have a bunch of inaccuracies. And it would be cool to have a TSW version that models all the switches and operation like we get on everything else. And would much rather see a P42 over a Charger. The Chargers suck and there’s no shortage of articles about all the issues they have. Not to mention most engine crews don’t like them very much.
     
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    The only real potential hint of the new US route is that it's probably the project that Brandon (CactusJuice) has been working on, which MOST LIKELY puts it into the northeast area.
     
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    You’re probably right. I wouldn’t be surprised. Based on how DTG seems to release routes, I doubt we’d see another west coast route released so soon, let alone one set in California again. Yes it would be great to see something like another route to run Metrolink on. Or something like the Surfliner, which also means Metrolink. There’s really so many things missing from US content. Only time will tell.
     
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    The later US route will probably be Surfliner as I keep predicting.
     
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    Agree on this. Most likely a February release just as Last year.
     
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    I also think there is a high chance, the next US route is the project Cactusjuice has been working on. If not released around December-February, I think it will definitely be the one on the roadmap that shows as 6 months. I have a feeling we may get the New Haven Line if this is the project but if not, definitely another route in the northeast.
     
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    I seem to remember seeing billboards on Antelope Valley with Cactusjuice advertised on them. Am I going crazy or did I see this? Maybe that’s an Easter egg that was left. Would make sense it’s on an existing US route, too.
     
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    Am I the only one wanting a New Haven Line route ? From Grand Central & Penn to New Haven Union Station. Would be cool to have a branch like the Danbury branch ! We could run P32 for example :love:
     
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    Do you really have confidence in DTG that they would include the full route with an additional loco?
     
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    You are not alone on wanting the New Haven line. But I’m just really lowering my expectations. Just the trend lately of smaller, easier routes to make seems more likely. I really hope I’m wrong. If it is Cactusjuice’s project that’s the upcoming US route then the New Haven line should be on top of the list. Now lots of questions would follow. Which part? Would it include both Penn station and Grand Central? Would it only go as fas as Stamford ? Would it go from New Haven to Stamford? Given what DTG just did with the east coast main line is a possibility.
     
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    Every other loco that would come with that route already exists.

    New York - New Haven
    -ACS-64 (Reused)
    -MTA M3/M7A (Reused)
    -CSX GP38-2 (AI Only)
    -Acela (Layered)
     
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    seems the route choice of late is semi-fast action commuter runs, something to keep the thumbstick twiddlers happy

    will be interesting whether we will ever get a full fledged freight route, without A-to-B and back, and line speeds above 35 MpH.

    Though, a good implementation of the stalwart Barstow-Mojave-Tehachapi-Bakersfield, or Portola-Feather River-Keddie-Oroville will be very welcome by me and many others (I suppose)
     
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    I agree I'm thinking it's something along Amtrak Possibly diesel ,Maybe surfliner
    I'm hoping for P32 Possibly Or maybe New Haven With the M8... Either late November or early December we will get a hint. I don't know if anyone saw the antelope Valley line Has a billboard On a potential Tokyo/ Japanese route Possibly being announced next year From Union workshop.This is just a big speculation From the what I think to Big Easter egg on into the valley. I did find another one but forgot Since I have not played for a day or 2
     
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    The problem is that they'd need to include the New Haven to Stamford shuttle using M2's and even though they have that in TS, I doubt they'd include it since they were too lazy to include the Princeton shuttle despite the trackage being in the game.
     
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    The Princeton shuttle didn't make it in the game because DTG didn't even put the arrows in the game as well...We are just stuck with one type of NJ Transit set smh.
     
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    My guesses are
    NJ Transit NJCL and RVL
    ALP-45DP
    F40PH
    GP40PH
    Metrolink Orange County Line LA Union Station to OCeanside,CA the Southern segment follows the Motorway Interstate 5
     
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    I'm going to speculate that if the next US route that is on the road map and is the project that Bradon has been working on , then I believe is part of the New haven line (Either from Stanford to GC and Penn station or New Haven to Stamford. I know this is something Brandon has mentioned in the past of wanting to help DTG make. Now I can be totally off on this. Some of the hints is DTG haven't abandoned NYT. If they include the route starting from Stanford , then the New haven line Amtrak's hell gate line section has the potential to be in the game and all tose services can be taken from the latest NYT timetable update (NJT,LIRR). Now hopefully we would get an updated NY skyline, upgrated Penn, and Grand Central stations. If done correctly, and includes all possible services (NJT,LIRR,Harlem line, Husdon line, New haven line) it would make this DLC even busier than NYT As far as total services including AI). But given the direction DTG has gone lately with TSW4 I can also see them taking the easier route that would just be New haven line section from New haven to Stamford with almost 80% less traffic .This would take having to make the busier section as just as it was done with the East coast main line. All speculation at this point.
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    Below is the TSC map for the New haven line which includes most of the Hew haven line except the Waterbury and Danbury Branches. It all the big stations are included like Penn station, Grand Central, 125st , Hell's gate section, Stamford
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    This is definitely a good estimate of what we can see for the upcoming US route. I am hopeful that we get the entire New Haven line, excluding the branch line shuttles but if we get them, even better. Something tells me though that we may only get a portion of the line if it's coming to TSW. If this is the project that Brandon is working on, since it was mentioned months ago, I am hopeful we get the line from GCT to New Haven, including Amtrak. Services between Penn Station and New Haven. LIRR and NJT AI trains can spawn in for the areas between West Side Yard and Sunnyside yard/Woodside

    If the New Haven Line is the next US route, hopefully the DLC will be Metro North M8's, and the P32AC-DM with shoreliner I-IV coaches (variants with and without center doors)
     
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    Train simulator classic New Haven line at least we can now compare the M8 to its British counterpart the class 700 and 387/2. Which is why most people compare both trains to the M8 for their Overhead Catenary Third Rail capability. For fun spawn the Class 700 and 387/2 and then run it as an M8 service.
     
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    I grew up in the Bronx so I saw what I called "red trains" when I was young) almost every day
     
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    As I've mentioned before, St Louis to Jefferson City would be nice with potential for Amtrak passenger and fairly fast freight running and moderately interesting mid-West scenery. Probably too long at 126 miles which of course is the quintessential issue with most US routes to make them worthwhile, the distance is too far. Unless you adopt the Run 8 methodology and periodically add an extension.
     
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  47. i like to see dovetail do the right thing and bring the part of the NEC route we had in TSW1 back but upgrade it and make it bigger and better with a updated ny skyline if not i would like to see a new freight route maria pass would be good to see in TSW if not that maybe NY Subway at long last as MTA run that and we are long overdue for a new subway route
     
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    That's NYT and the "New Haven Line"
     
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    Speaking of TS Classic. Do you recommend this addon ?
     
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    After I posted this I started thinking, a good amount of the assets we already have to start the route from Stamford. This means only 16 stations would need to be build if the New Canaan branch is inluded. If not only 12 needed.
    We have most of the trains except the M8 and the P32AC-DM with shoreliner I-IV coaches
    They can take parts parts from Harlem, NEC, and now NYT. The Amtrak service runs from Stamford to Penn are about 1 hour and the
    So looking at the current New haven to New York schedule. What I see is all Services originating from New haven except one stop at Stanford. According to the map Stanford is 33 miles from Penn station, services vary from 48 mintues express run to 1hour and 15 minutes for all local stop.
    So here's the breakdown of the New Haven services ,not including the empty moves and repositioning services, Not including any of the Harlem line up to woodlawn,hudson line, or Amtrak services at this time:
    From New Haven(72 miles) 42 Services
    From Stanford (33 miles from Penn) 101 services which includes the 41 services from New Haven which one doesn't stop here
    from Harrison (22miles from Penn) 10 services
    New Rochelle (17 miles from Penn) 3 services
    Greenwich (28 miles from Penn) 1 service

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