Very exciting to finally be get the updated timetable for NYT. Big thank you Joe and the team. With that said. Can we please get information on what is required to activate all layers in NYT new timetable. Also can we get some final numbers on total services. Would be nice to know the before and after numbers for NJT and total with all AI.
If I remember correctly off the top my head from a past stream it's these DLCs: Sand Patch Grade Long Island Railroad LIRR M3 Amtrak Acela There might be more but I can't remember possibly a couple of the other freight routes OSD, CJP, etc for mixed services.
For Freight there are specific DLC required to activated the layer and there are others that can be use to substitute to add variety. Just want to get the correct list since don’t want to get anything that’s not needed
Not 100% sure someone else will have to verify that but it uses the CSX wagons and the GP38-2. Joethefish DTG Matt are either of you able to confirm this?
I think I found some information from June’s roadmap courtesy of Joe Unless something change: “But what does that mean for NYT? CSAO run trains with a mix of CSX and NS equipment, specifically the ex-CR equipment that have extra in cab signalling*. In TSW, these will require SPG for the CSX GP38-2s that operate the trains. Though there is a chance that one or multiple per train could be an NS GP38-2, if you own Horseshoe Curve. Many of the cars pulled by these trains also have a medium chance to substitute into other railroad cars. I've seen, for example, CSX mixed with BNSF and then CN, which is quite like the videos I was using for reference.” The Long Island Railroad layer for NYT will require just the LIRR route for the M7 AI. Each formation, 6, 8, 10 & 12 have a 20% chance to substitute into a LIRR M3 (of the same length) if you own the LIRR M3 DLC too! So, to be clear, LIRR route is required for ALL services. The M3 only adds variety.
I believe you only need the base SPG for the CSAO services to appear, but it gets more variety if you have HSC, CJP etc. Installed.
Spot on but The game doesn't spawn the 12-car version of M7 & M3 for LIRR instead you get 6, 8, and 10-car trains. Unless 12-car trains were a patch to spawn them.
Right now, just to GCT. Maybe not forever though. There is the Penn Station Access Project which would link the two terminuses by 2030, I believe. Needs a new tunnel under the East River.
Thanks for that. What would be coming in from Harlem Line? IRL I don't think they go near Penn? (at least not back in the time this was set, I think there is a Penn-GCT connection now). Edit: I see this was already addressed further down.
Yeah don't worry about the Harlem line I added that thinking it was going to be part of the AI services as I'm not familiar with US routes, I just forgot to edit my post you quoted but I've done it now :P
In the latest roadmap (the TS4 one) there was this screenshot: Theres an intermodal train in the backgroun crossing the bridge. SPG only had CSX containers, so this train seems to be layering in from one of the other freight DLCs... I am assuming HSC but I guess could also be SMH or CJP.
Could well be I know that SPG is needed as some of the screenshots show CSX wagons and locos, I'd say it could be a mix of most of the US freight. Hopefully Joethefish or Matt will be able to confirm it. I mean with this timetable update it will mean I'll probably end up getting the Trenton route, the lack of services/business put me off from getting it originally.
I know with the freight train that Joe had created to run under the Harlem River bridge, it was IIRC CSX locos so SPG activated the layer and gave you a CSX train, but it would sub in freight cars from basically all the other DLC that was available. So if you'd see NS, UP, and CSX cars (can't remember if I ever saw CN) in the consist if you had the appropriate DLC. But an all CSX train if you just had SPG.
Clearly CJP adds wagons as was shown in the shunting picture on one of the roadmap articles. I also heard on one of the streams that HSC will add an NS loco. Although I haven't seen it explicitly written out, my best guess is that SPG would be required with CJP, HSC adding layers.
Why would you need an East River tunnel for that when they're both in Manhattan and GCT is already connected to the LIRR network?
One thing that was mentioned on the road map is that the CSX GP38 is what activates the layers but if you have HSC then the NS GP38 will sub in on those services.
Perhaps I misunderstood. The PSAP would allow Metro North trains, such as Harlem, access directly to Penn Station which they can't do at present.
Those ONE containers are from HSC Sherman Hill and Cajon Pass. Sand Patch only has CSX containers. What that AI train represents is a Tracon Barstow,CA to Newark, NJ Oak Island Hump Yard (via Allentown, PA hump yard or Cumberland, MD) which is under I-95 just like the CSX Little Ferry Yard by the Vince Lombardi Service area opened on February 6th 1974 Construction Start November 4th 1973.
Judging by the MTA documents it's only adding stations to NEC and running New Haven trains from New Rochelle also to Penn using mostly the existing route (probably adding tracks at new stations, etc.)
Yup, select New Haven Line trains will be redirected to Penn Station instead of running to Grand Central Terminal. Currently, planned stations in the Bronx would be Co-op City, Morris Park, Parkchester and Huntspoint
