Newbie Needing Help

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  1. trainman2024

    trainman2024 New Member

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    not long been playing Train simulator classic 2024.
    my question is when driving the train ( Electric) im going alond and a alarm sounds and if i dont press Q intime the train will slow down and stop and i cant start it untill its fully stopped.
    is there any way of turning this feature off?
     
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    It's a vital part of train simulation to prevent you from passing a signal at danger, which can cause havoc like crashes and derailments as in real life.
     
  4. IronBladder

    IronBladder Well-Known Member

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    It's what you have to do in a real train! The alarm warns you of things like signals at danger, speed changes, or if you the driver may have nodded off or been taken ill!

    After a bit of practice, you'll get used to it and it won't bother you.

    The only way to turn it off is to drive routes that are set in a time before it was installed. Generally, that's any route before the 1960s, but there are exceptions.
     
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    The AWS is designed to make the driver aware of an adverse signal or a speed change ahead. In a real life scenario, this alarm would go off to remind the driver that they need to adjust how they are driving and they are required to punch the alerter button to confirm that they heard the alarm. Not responding to the alarm can mean that the driver is incapacitated and the train is stopped automatically as a security measure. It's the same if you do not reply to a driver vigilance alarm, which is a different control, but the driver vigilance can be disabled. The AWS is always on, and you have to confirm that you see the red signal or that you know the lower speed limit is ahead. Failure to confirm means the train will force you to acknowledge it by bringing you to a stop with the emergency brake. That emergency brake is why you have to wait for the train to stop.
     
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    There are tons of modern routes and trains that do not use this system. Good start is to ditch your passengers and go freight :)
     
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    That may be true in the US, but not the UK and Europe.
     
  8. Cyclone

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    Speaking of, that's another solution. Do more US driving. No AWS!
    Here's one from Golden Age Developments: https://www.golden-age-developments.co.uk/dorset-coast.html

    I'll leave the page to note the requirements, but all required payware routes are circa 2016 or earlier and therefore can be had cheaply in sales.

    NOTE: The "West of England Mainline" requirement probably requires assets in the pack only; the route doesn't have to be installed.
     
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    That Golden Age Development scenario may be AWS free, but it doesn't look modern to me.
     
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    I have only had three issues with alerters:
    • Some of them have no sound (such as the P42DC)
    • 2D map on, buzzing begins, and I'm panicking for a solid few seconds trying to close it, smashing every possible key except the one that does it (Esc doesn't)
    • I swear there is a rule that upon exiting the cab, every safety system must come on right away. At least with Sifa I learned to just keep pressing NumPad Enter every 5 seconds, like I hear in some cab rides.
    Other than these, there is no big reason about them. Except, well, trying to play silent next to a baby or just chilling on the sofa.

    There is no way to turn them off, as far as I know. Some engines have it optionally one way or another, like the old NEC locos show cab signals but don't do anything further, as well as some others start with safety systems off or at least can be toggled (NEC, NJCL).
     
  11. trainman2024

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    Thankyou to everyone for you replies and advice ill try and get more game time in to get some more practice as i forget how to start train at times, good job im not a real driver lol
    thanks
     
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    Its not modern but it is a good route to drive with Diesel or Electric
    When you approach any signal on a modern UK Route you will see the AWS ramp in the middle of the track.
    AWS 2.jpg
    As you drive over it hold your finger over the Q button on your keyboard and when the warning sounds push the Q to cancel
    You can use the mouse but the Q button is easier

    Have a watch of this as it also shows other types of signals found on different routes


    Peter
     
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    I think a real driver is trained on only one or sometimes two types of trains. I think it's the more senior drivers who are more likely to know multiple trains because they might have to do certain station moves. I would not know, however.

    The fact we get to drive them all is lovely.
     
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    It all depends on the depot the driver belongs to and the routes they sign rather than seniority.
    They only learn the crew on what they need to know.
    For example a LNER Driver will sign 800/801 Azumas and a few depots will sign also Class 91s - but nothing else.

    A suburban depot with a lot of routes will sign the required traction
    When I was driving from Manchester Piccadilly, 1992 - 2002, I drove 101, 142, 150, 156, 158, 304, 305, 309, 323.
    The Senior drivers would not have been assigned to turns that involved in a lot of moves on and off depots.

    Peter
     
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    Very good to know! I thought you would be limited in the number of trains to avoid confusion between them.
     
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    Not really.
    If you look at the way 142, 144, 150, 153, 156, 158, 159, 165, 166 & 170 work in the game the type of Brake Handle, Power Handle and other controls are all basically the same - it is only when the train stops working away from a main station or depot that the driver might have to do something to fix the problem.

    In theory all those different type of unit can be coupled to each other.
    The last Barrow - Preston passenger train moved the units required to Preston to go on to Blackpool or Newton Heath.
    A number of times the train was a 156 + 153 + 142 + 150 - with just the 156 in passenger use.
     
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    Not really at one point i was qualified on 3 completley different trains. Once you do stock training for one the rest all basically follow the same principle in terms of how they operate.
     

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