Next German Route Teased On Brd?

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  1. jolojonasgames

    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    I missed Sams tease because I didn't watch the stream (if anyone has a timestamp, please let me know). However it sounds promising. Of course I'd love it even more if the next route was from a new country like the Netherlands, but we'll see :).
     
  2. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Let me see a scenario planner workshop sharing feature the tsw 2 equivalent to a TS 22 workshop. I can see it's going to be useful on All German Routes including future ones possibly the Duisburg-Oberhausen-Arnhem Railway or Black Forrest Route as seen on Matt's channel. First is DB BR118 then the DB BR155 Deutsche Reichsbahn DDR BR 250
     
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    about 1:08:20
     
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  4. redrev1917

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    the 92% probability could be a clue that its set in 1992, if so Duisberg/Dortmund to Koln/Bonn would fit both clues as ICE 1 services commenced on this route in 1992. Also the only available existing German mainline loco which fits 1992 would be the 143 which was first trialled in the ex West German on the Dortmund Sbahn in (wait for it)...... 1992
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    OTOH, 1992 was the year of German reunification, so he could be teasing a pre-uni vintage DBB route?
     
  6. jolojonasgames

    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    Not quite. The wall fell in '89, the two countries unified in 1990, and the railway companies of the two former countries (Deutsche Bundesbahn and Deutsche Reichsbahn) merged in 1994 into Deutsche Bahn AG, although from 1990 onwards a lot of their operations already merged (they unified their numbering scheme, purchased new rolling stock together and unified timetables).

    A route in '92 would see a seperate Bundesbahn and Reichsbahn, in a unified Germany. It was a very diverse era of railroading because of this. One could see East and West-German rolling stock mixed in some of the long distance trains, and a range of paint schemes were used. The DR had just stopped using steam traction a few years before, whereas the DB(B) was just starting to roll out a high-speed passenger network. A variety of paint schemes was used, with DB providing a mix of ocean blue/beige and TEE red/beige, cobalt blue/chrome oxide green (for electric locomotives, that sometimes hadn't been repainted since the '50s and '60s), and produktfarben like orient red (IC coaches and all locomotives) and pastel blue (InterRegio) and Turqoise (Regional traffic) (which all would later also be used by the unified DB AG). Meanwhile the DR was using a bordeaux red with white line livery on it's locos, with coaches being painted either entirely green, green/beige or mustard/beige (for StädteExpress trains). This made for a very diverse colour pallette on a lot of trains, definitely from 1994 onwards, when the merger of the companies led to stock being restationed all over the place.

    In addition to that there was also a way larger diversity in service types. Besides the well known S-bahn, RB, RE, IC, EC and ICE traffic of today there were also D-züge, InterRegios and a lot more night trains, sometimes with coaches on which the cars of the passengers could be taken along.

    All this diversity and rapid change makes it one of the most interesting eras (if not the most interesting) of German railways, in addition to the fact that I simply find the Produktfarben very pleasing to look at :).
     
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  7. Der Uni

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    I think it is nothing spectacular than "D" stand for Dortmund. I think is a new Connection from Bochum (HRR) to Dortmund (ok, is a little to short Route)

    But, the first End Station (Bochum) already exists in HRR for TSW2, so DTG doesn't have to rebuild it again for a Route DLC...

    Or a Connection from Hagen (RSN) to Dortmund. And again here: Hagen doesn't need to rebuild. We have it already...
     
  8. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Best option is this link Bochum Dortmund and Hagen together via Witten. Since HRR is actually the Duisburg Essen Bochum Dortmund/Witten Hagen Railway because of the 1988 built Bochum Langendreer Junction. That's why you have ICE3 trains from Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg operate on RRO and ICE 2 trains Berlin Aachen Hbf which is not reflected on Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen.
     
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  9. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    1988 Deutsche Reichsbahn steam operations end while 1974 steam operation end for Deutsche Bundesbahn the predecessor of Deutsche Bahn which uses the West German Deutsche Bundesbahn locomotive numbering system.
     
  10. Monder

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    Two days left until we probably find out what "D??" is. So... any last guesses?

    I am going with Duisburg-Düsseldorf-Köln... DDK :D Perhaps the route can end up linking SKA and HRR, but that remains to be seen.
     
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  11. jolojonasgames

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    Looking at the content DTG seems to sell well, that is a likely candidate. We'll see, but I hope I'll be surprised by something new and interesting :).
     
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    I agree and in the future they can make HDA Hollandstrecke Duisburg Arnhem if Duisburg to Köln via Dusseldorf doesn't make Duisburg Hbf busy. In real life Duisburg Hbf is busy because most trains from the Netherlands via Arnhem call at Duisburg Hbf then Dusseldorf Hbf from Arnhem CS and Oberhausen Hbf S3 HRR S-Bahn terminus.
     
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  13. OpenMinded

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    I would love this idea…. IF DTG would use this opportunity to make routes linkable.

    Just imagine being able to drive 2+ hours from Bochum all the way to Aachen… How cool would that be:cool:

    I would also buy it without this feature, though;)
     
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  14. BjornGroen02NL

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    My guess will be "Dieselstrecke [Some city] to [Another city]" set in the year 1992. However, a route around Duisburg or Düsseldorf is very likely too. I simply hope it won't be another modern electric mainline - we have enough routes of that type already. A different type of route would be highly appreciated. But who knows, I'm interested in all sorts of German routes so I'll probably buy it anyway even if it is another modern mainline :D
     
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  15. Snek

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    My bet is that they are going with something new this time, since we've seen many similar routes lately. So no routes like Köln - Duisburg or Dortmund - Bielefeld, which are like HMA.
    Perhaps something more quiet with slower speeds, like the Donautalbahn.
     
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  16. Monder

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    I agree with you there, but if the route was made with the intention of linking three routes together, I could probably give them a pass this time :D
     
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  17. driverwoods#1787

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    Excellent analysis and if you are wondering most of the West German routes in games except Hamburg-Lübeck are electrified by Deutsche Bundesbahn 1954-1988. HRR 1973 S-Bahn line 1988-1990 German reunification. Main Spessart Bahn 1954-1957. For a Diesel Line D might refer to Allgau Bahn München Pasing to Lindau via Kempten.
     
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  18. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Good point and in the future a Dampflok route like TS22 Wutachtalbahn which will be bundled with United States and UK.
     
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    I bet or hope for Lindau Kempten but Duisburg-Cologne is the most likely
     
  20. BjornGroen02NL

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    That would also be great to be honest. It will make the rail network in Nordrhein Westfalen more complete so that's a good thing, and it is likely since DTG seems to like NRW for some unknown reason.

    At least I hope the new DLC brings some new loco's / rolling stock with it. Dresden didn't bring something drastically new rolling stock-wise, the only real change being a skin for the 363 and VVO liveries for Dosto's and Talent 2. Missed opportunity to bring the 146.0 for example.

    That's on top of my wishlist for the next German route, a new loco that isn't a variant or a skin of an already existing loco. Either that or a new "route setting", like a diesel route or something rural, would bring some well deserved refreshment into the German catalogue of DLC's.
     
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    Dortmund to Bielefeld with another recycled Dostos and 146 :cool:
    And Brandnew Trains are the IC2 and BR 402 as known as ICE 2
     
  22. Huntlosen

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    In my opinion, you don't need Abellio or National Express license for the RRX trains. It's like Cathcart Circle. The trains are from Scotrail but the operator is Abellio. You just need the license from "Land Nordrhein-Westfalen" , because the trains are just rented to National Express and Abellio
     
  23. Monder

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    Well, this one would be a good place to introduce ICE2s or 4s. Probably 4s as you can make both long and short sets to create a variety of services.
     
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    The next step for them are HDA Hollandstrecke Duisburg Arnhem or Diesel Deutschland Netherland Enschede-Dortmund BDB Bahnstrecke Deutchland Belgien Aachen Luttich. If DTG wanted NRW international routes to Belgium and Netherlands. Otherwise then can go to Baden Wurtemburg to bring in Bahnstrecke Deutschland Frankreich Mannheim-Appenweier-Strasbourg that is present in TS 22 with Frankfurt High Speed being merged with Appenweier-Strasbourg. Baden Wurtemburg option 2 is Rapid Transit Stuttgart with Rapid Transit operations set in West Germany.
     
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    How does one obtain one of these tickets? I've tried to fumble about with the ticket machines in every way I can think of (not that there are many interaction options)- and nada.
     
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    There are these small blue ticket validators on the platforms.
     
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