Niddertalbahn: Issues With "stop Off Path"

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  1. niceaux

    niceaux New Member

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    Hey everyone,

    so I have been working on my own Niddertalbahn TT for a bit now. I just recently got around to adding ambient traffic at Bad Vilbel, specifically the S6 that comes out the portal(s), stops at BV and goes into the portal(s) is giving me major issues.

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    This is what I have going, obviously repeating every 30 minutes. When I play this in the editor, it works just fine. When I run the simulation, the S6_1 and S6_2 both arrive at the stop, then go into "Stop off path" therefore obviously blocking everything and not advancing.

    This is what the "Leave Portal" looks like:
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    Here's the "Stop at"-Instruction:
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    and the "Enter-Portal":
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    I was able to "fix" this by ending service at BV and starting a new one for the departure into the portal. While that would work for the S6, how would I go about through-trains like IC/Es or freight trains?
    Would anyone be able to shed some light onto this? Its confusing... I don't see what the issue is. :(
     
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  2. Perks390

    Perks390 Well-Known Member

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    Set the portal ribbon location to 1.
     
  3. seblay1608

    seblay1608 Well-Known Member

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    Afaik it's not possible to leave and enter a portal in one service, so you have to use two different services. For long-distance-trains or freight you might just end the first service a few meters behind the portal and create the second service from that point.
     
  4. Isaak

    Isaak Well-Known Member

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    I have at least 100 services entering and exiting portals in the same service on my MSB timetable. Try setting the ribbon location to 1 or 0 (the side that is deepest 'into' the portal) and enable 'Force Specific location'. Make sure the 'go to condition' is set to 'within'. That way it should work.

    What doesn't seem to work is a service with only a 'leave portal' and 'enter portal' instruction, with nothing in between them, you need at least a 'go via', but that's not the issue here.
     
  5. grob-e

    grob-e Well-Known Member

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    Actually, it's possible...for example...

    TS2: Frankfurt (Main) Hbf Pl 9 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München AI due at +02:11:00.000
    TS2: Portal Stadion 1 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München AI due at +02:16:13.050
    TS2: Portal Stadion 3 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München AI due at +02:38:00.000
    TS2: Frankfurt (Main) Sued Pl 8 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München AI due at +02:38:00.050
    TS2: Frankfurt (Main) Sued Pl 8 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München due at +02:43:00.000
    TS2: Hanau Hbf Pl 104 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München due at +02:54:29.350
    TS2: Hanau Hbf Pl 104 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München due at +02:56:00.050
    TS2: Portal Wurtzburg 2 - AI ICE 1529 Frankfurt-München due at +03:03:10.650

    but it's not really controllable (the timings,orientation...) so it's more convienent to solve it like this...

    TS2: Frankfurt (Main) Hbf Pl 9 - ICE 1529 FFM-FFM Airport AI due at +02:11:00.000
    TS2: Portal Stadion 1 - ICE 1529 FFM-FFM Airport AI due at +02:16:58.150
    TS2: Portal Stadion 3 - AI ICE 1529 Frankfurt Hbf-München Hbf due at +02:38:01.050
    TS2: Frankfurt (Main) Sued Pl 8 - AI ICE 1529 Frankfurt Hbf-München Hbf due at +02:41:44.550
    TS2: Frankfurt (Main) Sued Pl 8 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt Hbf-München Hbf due at +02:45:00.000
    TS2: Hanau Hbf Pl 103 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt Hbf-München Hbf due at +02:55:55.250
    TS2: Hanau Hbf Pl 103 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt Hbf-München Hbf due at +02:58:00.000
    TS2: Portal Wurtzburg 1 - ICE 1529 Frankfurt Hbf-München Hbf AI due at +03:02:34.950

    More or less, the train in the first example ignores the time for re-entering (2:38:00) and enters immediately (2:16:14) and then waits for almost half an hour in Frankfurt Süd untill 2:43:00.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2025 at 4:36 PM

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