Route North Clyde Line: Helensburgh-springburn

Hi guys today I will be suggesting this route for TSW 4, Helensburgh to Springburn, in the game Helensburgh will have 2 railway branch’s.
The trains included will be the Class 334 and the 156, 320, 318 and the Class 92.
The Class 334 calls at Helensburgh Central.
The Class 156 and 92 calls at Helensburgh Upper.
The Class 320 starts from Darleoch after coming from Balloch and would go to Springburn aswell for the 318.

Here is a map of the 2 branches in the Helensburgh area. The line turning to the left is the Helensburgh Central branch, the one going to the right is the Helensburgh Upper Branch.
Let’s look at information about the route now.
The stations in the game will be Helensburgh Central, Helensburgh Upper, Craigendoran, Cardross, Dalreoch, Dumbarton Central, Dumbarton East, Bowling, Kilpatrck, Dalmuir, Clydebank, Yoker, Garscadden, Scoutsounhill, Jordanhill, Hyndland, Patrick, Charing Cross, Glasgow Queen Street, High Street, Bellgrove, Duke Street, Alexandra Palace, Barnhill and Springburn.

 

Let’s look at info about Helensburgh Central.


This is Helensburgh Central station.
Helensburgh Central Station serves the town of Helensburgh on the north shore of the firth of Clyde, near Glasgow, Scotland. The station is a terminus of the North Clyde Line, sited 24 miles 31 chains from Glasgow Queen Street, measured via Singer and Maryhill. Passenger services are operated by Scotrail on behalf of Strathclyde Partnership for Transport.
The station was opened on 31 May 1858 (as Helensburgh), as the terminus of the Glasgow Dumbarton and Helensburgh Railway. The GD&HR was taken over by the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway company in 1862, which in turn was absorbed by the North British Railway three years later. It was given its current name on 8 June 1953, with electric operation beginning in November 1960 as part of the North Clyde modernisation scheme. The entire station building and platforms were rebuilt in 1897 to the design of James Carswell.

 

Now let’s look at Helensburgh Upper.

Helensburgh Upper railway station, Baile Eilidh Àrd) serves the town of Helensburgh Scotland, on the north shore of the Firth of Clyde to the west of Glasgow, It is located in a residential area uphill from the town centre and is by far the smaller of the town's two stations. It is on the West HighlandLine, 2 miles 8 chains from Craigendoran Junction, near Helensburgh, the first station on the line before Garelochhead. Scotrail manage the station and operate most services, with others provided by Caledonian Sleeper.
The station opened in 1894.[3]

Originally built with an island platform in a cutting, the Up platform was taken out of use in 1968 although the station building remained in use for another few years. Until the 1960s, the station was served by a local shuttle service between Craigendoran and Arrochar & Tarbet in addition to main line trains to Fort William and Mallaig. Latterly operated by a Wickham Diesel Railbus it fell victim to the Beeching Axe in 1964.

 

Sorry to interrupt, but is there any chance you could condense your suggestions?

 

Now let’s look at Craigendoran Station.


This is Craigendoran station. Craigendoran, Creag and Dòbhrain) is a railway station serving Craigendoran, east of Helensburgh, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail, which operates all services at the station. It is located on the North Clyde Line between Helensburgh Central and Cardross, 23 miles 18 Chains west of Glasgow Queen Street (High Level), measured via Singer and Maryhill. West Highland Line trains used to call here but no longer do following the closure of the upper platforms.


Originally opened by the North British Railway on 15 May 1882, at one time the station had five platforms: two as an island platform on the West Highland Line - sometimes called Craigendoran Upper (opened in 1894 and closed in 1964, subsequently demolished), one on Craigendoran Pier serving Clyde Steamers (closed in 1972 and lifted) and two on the line to Helensburgh (one closed when the line was singled). All five platforms, bar those for the West Highland Line, were electrified. There were once goods sidings located in here, built in the 1940s, but these were removed in 1964 with the end of regular local freight workings.

The track layout at Craigendoran Junction was simplified in 1984 under the auspices of British Rail, singling the line to Helensburgh Central.The present layout at the junction, just east of the station, consists of a loop (available to West Highland Line trains only) and single lines to Helensburgh Upper and Helensburgh Central. The line south of here towards Dumbarton Central remains double track.
On weekdays & Saturdays, there is a typically half-hourly service westbound to Helensburgh Central, and eastbound to Edinburgh Waverley , via Glasgow Queen Street low-level and Airdrie, which skips stations between Dalmuir and Hyndland, On Sundays, the service remains half-hourly, but trains serve all stations via Singer.

 

Gets a thumbs up from me being from Glasgow. However ending it at queen street would be unrealistic. Extending it to springburn via Glasgow queen street low level would give a much better end point as trains don’t terminate at the low level as there is no way for them to cross over and return back east

 

I changed the title and will re edit it

 

Now let’s look at Cardross station.


This is Cardross Station.
Cardross Station is a railway station serving the village of Cardross, Scotland. The station is 19 miles 50 chains from Glasgow Queen Street, measured via Singer and Maryhill. It is on the North Clyde Line between Dalreoch and Craigendoran, positioned on the banks of the north side of the River Cyde. The station is managed by ScotRail, who operate all services.

The station was opened by the Glasgow, Dumbarton and Helensburgh Railway on 28 May, 31 May, or 7 June 1858. The line was electrified in 1960. There were some goods sidings here previously - possibly built in the late 1940s - but these were removed in the mid-1960s with the end of regular freight movements on the line.

On weekdays & Saturdays, there is a typically half-hourly service westbound to Helensburgh Central, and eastbound to Edinburgh Waverley via Glasgow Queen Street low-level and Airdrie, which skips stations between Dalmuir and Hyndland. On Sundays, the service remains half-hourly, but trains serve all stations via Singer. Trains operating to the West Highland Line do not stop here, except for one departure in the morning, which runs to Glasgow Queen Street via Maryhill.

 

Now let’s look at Dalreoch station.


This is Dalreoch Station
Dalreoch Railway Station serves the west end of Dumbarton in West Dumbartonshire Scotland. The station is managed and served by Scotrail and is served by trains on the North Clyde Line. The station is 16 miles 38 chains northwest of Glasgow Queen Street (High Level), measured via Singer and Maryhill.

The Caledonian and Dumbartonshire Junction Railway was opened in 1850, and Dalreoch railway station opened on 15 July 1850. The station became a junction with the opening of the Glasgow Dumbarton and Helensburgh Railway on 28 May 1858. The tunnel at the west end of the station, on the route to Helensburgh, was doubled in 1896 at a cost of £400,000 - the last section of the line to be doubled.
The line was electrified in 1960. Services on the Lanarkshire & Dumbartonshire Railway route to Possil via Dalmuir Riverside ended in October 1964 when it fell victim to the Beeching Axe.

On weekdays & Saturdays, there is a typically half-hourly service westbound to Helensburgh Central and Balloch each, and half-hourly eastbound to either Edinburgh Waverley via Glasgow Queen Street low-level, non-stop between Dalmuir and Hyndland or Airdrie calling at all stations via Singer. On Sundays, the service remains half-hourly, but two trains per hour serve all stations via Singer, while the other two serve all stations via Yoker, the latter heading to either Larkhill via Hamilton Central, or Motherwell via Whiff-let, hourly trains on both routes.

There are 2 branches here at Dalreroch, the one on the left is towards Helensburgh using Class 334s, 156s and 92s.
The one on the right is towards Balloch using Class 320 and 318, in the game, you will be able to drive the 320 and 318 from Dalreoch and drive to Springburn.

 

This is like a week long suggestion. But it's good and I approve! Nice route!

 

Now let’s look at Dumbarton Central.


This is Dumbarton Central Station.
Dumbarton Railway Station serves the town of Dumbarton in West Dunbartonshire, Scotland. This station is on the West Highland Line and the North Clyde Line, 15+3⁄4 miles northwest of Glasgow Queen Street.

The station was opened on 15 July 1850 by the Caledonian and Dumbartonshire Junction Railway on their route from Balloch Pier to Bowling, where travellers could join steamships on the River Clyde to get to Glasgow. Connections with the Glasgow, Dumbarton and Helensburgh Railway at Dalreoch Junction and at Bowling put the station on a through route between Glasgow Queen Street and Helensburgh Central by 1858. The company was subsequently absorbed by the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway in 1862 and eventually became part of the North British Railway three years later. However, in 1891, the North British was forced to come to an agreement with the rival Caledonian Railway to give the latter access to Balloch (and the Loch Lomond steamships) over C&DJR metals in order to prevent the building of a competing route by the Caledonian company - this resulted in the Lanarkshire and Dumbartonshire Railway arriving from Possil via Maryhill Central in 1896. Trains on the West Highland Railway also began serving the station following its completion on 1 August 1894 and these continue to call here to this day.

The station was built with two island platforms to permit convenient interchange between the various services that called, although only three faces remain in use the former down loop on the southbound side having been removed. The Helensburgh and Balloch lines were electrified by British Railways as part of the 1960 North Clyde Line electrification scheme, but most of the L&DR route was closed other than the short section through neighbouring Dumbarton East when passenger services to via Dalmuir Riverside were withdrawn on 5 October 1964 as a result of the Beeching Axe. As of 2022, the loop platform on the south side of the station receives no regular services.

Mondays-Saturdays, six trains per hour go southeastbound to Glasgow Queen Street and beyond. 2tph are limited stop to Edinburgh 2tph run to Springburn & Cumbernauld via Yoker and 2tph via Singer to Airdrie. Sunday services are via Singer to Edinburgh Waverley and via Yoker, alternating between Motherwell via Whifflet and Larkhall. Northwestbound services run twice-hourly each to Balloch and Helensburgh Central, the other 2tph terminate here.


Services to and from Glasgow Queen Street towards Oban, 6 trains per day weekdays, 3 on Sundays, and to Fort William and Mallaig, 3 per day weekdays, 1 or 2 on Sundays call here

The Highland Sleeper service also calls in each direction daily except Saturday nights southbound and Sunday mornings northbound, giving the station a direct link to/from London Euston via Edinburgh, Crewe and the West Coast Main Line.

 

No offense, but this is just a wall of text, almost likely copy-pasted from Wikipedia.

It's too much.
A route map, rolling stock and a few pros would be enough.
Does it have unique service patterns (like a mini network?), new signalling, or a selected number of landmarks.

 

I will add landmarks when all of the stations are done.

 

Just to echo Bravo2six above, do you really need a new, long post for each station?

 

We don't need a detailed history of each station.

 

Now let’s look at Dumbarton East.


This is Dumbarton East Station.
Dumbarton East Station serves the town of Dumbarton in the West Dunbartonshire region in Scotland. This station is managed by Scotrail and is served by trains of the North Clyde Line, 15 miles west of Glasgow Queen Street.
This station was first opened on 1st October 1896 by the Lanarkshire and Dunbartonshire Railway. This station has island platforms,
The tracks in this station were electrified in 1961.

This building here is Dumbarton Castle.
This castle had the longest recorded history of any stronghold in Scotland. It sits on a volcanic plug of basalt known as Dumbarton Rock which is 240 feet high and overlooks the town of Dumbarton.
The castle was built in the year 1220 as a defence against the threat from Norway, whose kings ruled the Hebrides and the islands in the clyde.

 

Now let’s look at Bowling Station.

This is Bowling Railway Station.
It serves the village of Bowling in the West Dunbartonshire region of Scotland. It is located on the North Clyde Line, between Kilpatrick and Dumbarton East, 12 miles and 70 chains from Glasgow Queen Street measured via Maryhill. The station is managed by Scotrail which provides all train services here.

The station was opened on the 15th of July 1850 by the Dumbarton and Helensburgh Railway and resited in 1858.
On weekdays and Saturdays, there is a half hourly service going to Balloch northbound and Airdrie southbound. On Sundays, trains would run twice per hour towards Balloch as normal, but will run southbound to Motherwell, with one going via Whifflet, the other via Hamilton Central.

In Bowling, there are many Historical buildings. This one here is called the Overtoun House. This was built in the 19th Century and it is a country house and estate in West Dunbartonshire, Scotland. It is situated on a hill which is overlooking the River Clyde, it is two Kilometres north of the village of Milton and three Kilometres east of the town of Dumbarton, the house was an example of Scottish Baronial Architecture, it was built in the 1860s and was donated to the people of Dumbarton in 1938, it was subsequently a maternity hospital, and now houses a Christian Centre.

 

This is another house in Bowling and it is called the Formakin House. This is an early 20th Century mansion and estate located in Renfrewshire, Scotland. It is situated 2 kilometres south of the Firth of Clyde, and 2.5 kilometres west of Bishopton. Formakin was designed by a man called Robert Lorimer for wealthy businessman John Holms, though the main house was not completed. It was declined in the 20th Century, but sometime in the 1990s, restoration took place of the estate building and was completed.

 

We don't need a page about every single house and station on the line. Let me tell you, Bowling is not thaaaat interesting.

 

Are you giving us a route suggestion, or a history of the line and surrounding areas?

It's leaning more towards the latter of the two.

 

This is Kilpatrick Station. It serves the village of Old Kilpatrick located in the West Dunbartonshire region of Scotland. This station is managed by ScotRail and is situated on the North Clyde Line between Dalmuir and Bowling. It is 11 miles and 17 chains from Glasgow Queen Street.
This station was opened on the 31st of May or the 7th of 1858.
On Weekdays and Saturdays, there would be a half hourly service going to Balloch northbound and Airdrie southbound. On Sundays, trains run twice per hour to Balloch as normal, but would run southbound to Motherwell, with one going via Whifflet, the other going via Hamilton Central.

Near Old Kilpatrick, there is a castle dating back to the 13th Century. This is called Mugdock Castle, it was a stronghold of the Clan Graham from the middle of the 13th century. The ruins of this building is located in Mugdock Country Park, it’s just west of the village of Mugdock in the parish of Strathblane. The castle is within the registration county of Stirlingshire, although it is only 2 kilometres north from Milngavie, East Dunbartonshire, situated on the northern outskirts of Greater Glasgow.

 

It's almost been a month since your last post. Is there any point in continuing???

 

I’ve been getting quite sick lately, I’m getting a bit better.

 

This is Dalmuir Station. This station serves the Dalmuir Area of Clydebank, in West Dunbartonshire, Scotland. It is a large five platform interchange which is between the Argyle Line, North Clyde Line and West Highland Line, between Singer and Clydebank and Kilpatrick. It is located 9 miles and 71 chains from Glasgow Queen Street.
The station originally opened on the 31st of May 1858. The station was resited in May 1897. In May 1952 it was renamed to Dalmuir Park and in August 1973 it was renamed to Dalmuir.
Passenger services here are provided by ScotRail and Caledonian Express. As befits a junction station which has two alternative routes to the city and access to both main stations there. Glasgow Queen Street Low Level and Glasgow Central Low Level.
There is a wide range of destinations available.
Going Northbound, there are 2 trains per hour heading towards both Balloch and Helensburgh Central via Dumbarton Central. Generally services to Helensburgh run nonstop towards Dumbarton East, with intermediate stations served by the trains terminating at Balloch. Two trains each hour terminate from the line via Singer, and all four trains each hour from the Yoker Line terminate here.

 

Let me guess you want to bring a train simulator classic rivet games route into the game. My problem is this it would suffer from the difficult rivet games problems becoming unplayable in the longer term

 

Now If this line Included the Balloch, Alexandria, And Renton Line I would be inclined to buy it as these are my local Stations.

Very Good Suggestion

 

Very loooooong suggestion but I do like the premise.

 

This is Singer Station. It is a two platform staffed station which serves Clydebank town centre, West Dunbartonshire, Scotland. The station is located on the Argyle line and North Clyde Line situated between Drumry and Dalmuir. This is 9 miles and 5 chains away from Glasgow Queen Street.

The station opened on the 3rd of November 1907, trains started operating at this station the next day after its opening, then in 1913 it was renamed to Singer for Kilbowie & Radnor Park, in 1942 the singer workers platform opened, the stations names was reverted to Singer in May 1948 and the Singer Workers Platform closed on the 1st of May 1967.

On Mondays-Saturdays, trains between Balloch and Airdrie will stop each way every 30 minutes. In addition to these North Clyde Line services, there would be two Argyle Line trains per hour between Dalmuir and Larkhall. On Sundays, there’s a half hourly service towards Edinburgh going via Airdrie and towards Helensburgh Central. There’s also one train per day from Oban which calls here during the morning peak to Glasgow Queen Street, this operates via Maryhill.


In Singer, there is a place called Clydebank Museum. It is a municipal building located on Dumbarton Road, Clydebank, Scotland. It is also known as Clydebank Town Hall. It used to be the headquarters of the Clydebank Burgh Council. It was 1886 and there was significant
population growth, largely associated with the shipbuilding industry, this area became a Burgh in November 1886.

Civic Leaders initially held their meetings in a shop located on Glasgow Road but after they found this arrangement inadequate, they decided to produce a dedicated town hall on Dumbarton Road.

The foundation stone for this new building was laid by the member of parliament for Kilmarnock Burghs, Colonel John Denny, on the 23rd of June 1900. The building was designed by a man named James Miller in the Renaissance style, it was built with ashlar stone and was officially opened by the provost, Andrew Stewart, on the 4th of April 1902.

 

This is Drumry Station. This station serves the Drumry and Linnvale area of Clydebank, West Dunbartonshire, Scotland. It is served by trains on the North Clyde Line and Argyle Line. The station is located between Singer to the west and Drumchapel to the East, This station is situated 8 miles and 10 chains away from Glasgow Queen Street.

Drumry Station was opened on the 6th of April 1953 to serve two of the new housing schemes that were built during World War II on the northern edges of the Burgh of Clydebank, its nearly been a century after the opening of the railway line itself through the town. The station has a small car park and also has cycle strands. There is also a staffed ticket office and a ticket machine, with help points, shelters and benches.

On Mondays-Saturdays, trains travelling between Balloch and Airdrie stop each way every 30 minutes. In addition to these North Clyde Line services, there would be two Argyle Line trains per hour going between Dalmuir and Larkhall. On Sundays, there is a half hourly service heading to Edinburgh via Airdrie and to Helensburgh Central.

 

I thought you were done *crying emoji*

 

I kinda slowed down on the suggestion as I was feeling sick lately, I’ve gotten better now.

 

This is Drumchapel Station. It serves the Drumchapel, Blairdardie and Old Drumchapel areas of Glasgow in Scotland. This station is served by the Argyle Line and North Clyde Line, the station is situated between Westerton to the east and Drumry to the west, Drumchapel is 7 miles and 20 chains away from Glasgow Queen Street.

The Station was opened on the 1st of May 1890 or 1891, although there had already been a railway line through the town since 1858. Accordingly the opening of the Drumchapel Station allowed for significant housing developments on either sides of the railway line.

On Mondays-Saturdays, trains going between Balloch and Airdrie will stop each way every 30 minutes. There are two Argyle Line trains per hour. On Sundays, there is a half hourly service to Edinburgh via Airdrie and towards Helensburgh Central.


Next to the railway line is Great Western Retail Park, This is a big area where there a lot of shops, there is also a lot of space to park cars there. It is located next to the railway line so you might see back of the building when you drive past it in the train.