Ns Heritage Livery Collection Q&a Thread

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  1. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    Good afternoon everyone,

    We've just announced the Norfolk Southern Heritage Livery Collection and our preview stream was postponed, however, we will be live with a showcase tonight Thursday, 10thth August, starting at 18:00 UTC/19:00 BST on Train Sim World channels.

    Read more about the pack - Norfolk Southern Heritage Livery Collection Coming Soon!

    If you have any questions you want us to address, please send them in this thread - as a reminder we may not get to all questions on the stream, but we will look through this thread in preparation :)
     
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  2. 1dart Mart

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  3. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    Not complaining. 9 skins, 6 new scenarios and timetable subs all for $15. An absolute steal. Nickel Plate and Pennsylvania were my most wanted.

    But has anything been done to improve the dynamic brakes on the ES44AC?
     
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  4. Fawx

    Fawx Well-Known Member

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    Why are Scenarios and Skins being created, when Midland Mainline has Scenarios and texture issues that need fixing? And just generally needing a patch?
     
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  5. Quentin

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    Because if you don't do revenue earning stuff, there'll be no business left to create patches.
     
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  6. Fawx

    Fawx Well-Known Member

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    They just released a new DLC a few months ago, and we've been waiting for promised fixes since then. It's still crashing on Playstation for example.
     
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  7. steveownzzz#6107

    steveownzzz#6107 Well-Known Member

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    Good point but HSC had needs too.
    Actually still has, since the dynamic brakes need fixing. Won’t hold my breath though.
     
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  8. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    why is there no horseshoe update alongside this, theres a lot of bugs on it and why no new services
     
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  9. Suryaaji#2369

    Suryaaji#2369 Well-Known Member

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    Is it only a livery pack with scenarios included or the route itself updated to TSW3 standard? How about the ES44AC physics? Do the team ported the physics & banking comm capabilities from the CJP ES44C4?
     
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  10. steveownzzz#6107

    steveownzzz#6107 Well-Known Member

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    I had hopes for this but I’m pretty sure they would’ve advertised this and given Skyhook a pat on the back in the article.
     
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    Releases are Changing Back To Thursday. 7 months later…..
     
  12. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    Where's Conrail? Guessing licensing hell, but still very disappointing

    Why no other updates for HSC? In addition to bugfixes listed above, how about TOD4 like SH got?

    Sorry but the US freight content has been dreadful since at least TSW3 launch IMO.

    Maybe some major upgrades will come in TSW4...
     
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  13. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    -Was the Conrail unit excluded due to licensing from the CSAO? If so, how was RSC able to use the unit on TSC?

    -Is there any plans to update the route to TOD4?

    -Any plans to update the ES44AC to a similar performance standard as the BNSF ES44C4?

    -Any plans to do a 2nd pack with the other 10 heritage units on the SD70ACes?
     
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  14. docsnyder1911

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    Will Skyhook fix the not rotating radiators at the NS Gevo and NS Geep.
     
  15. pveezy

    pveezy Well-Known Member

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    My question is regarding the likelihood of these units showing up on AI services.

    Will it be low likelihood to make them rare/special (best case) or will we have a situation where every time you play HSC, that multiple heritage units will appear on a run? Or you see the same unit multiple times on different trains (worst case).
     
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  16. hells.high.lord666

    hells.high.lord666 Well-Known Member

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    Why now? With speculation about 4 and all the bugs/broken things in the game I don't see this doing to well!
     
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  17. cescb#1068

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    The commercial revenue vs moral dilemma, releasing revenue generating items and dedicating resource to this and not bug fixes. It will hurt the company in the longer term....
     
  18. 1dart Mart

    1dart Mart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, definitely not a great long term plan for customers, but as a business…..well money talks louder than providing a good customer experience. :(
     
  19. VA Railfan

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    Why did you decide to go with half the fleet leaving out Conrail when you could’ve added a whole new locomotive such as the Amtrak P42DC or a new NS locomotive such as an SD80MAC or SD70ACC?
     
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  20. VA Railfan

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    Will you fix the NS ES44AC conductor view? I’m tired of staring at a desk and not being able to see properly on the conductor’s seat
     
  21. bartolomaeusz

    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    Again - overcharged by more than $2 US against the Pound - it may be Steam and not DTG but still
     
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    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    Tigert1966 Well-Known Member

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    I won’t be buying this anyway but Steam base the Swiss Francs price on the USD price so it gets even further inflated. A £29 DLC costs me the equivalent of £40 at current exchange rates. I now have to wait for a sale, just to pay the normal price. The steam price matrix is a blatant rip off.
     
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  24. bartolomaeusz

    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    That's weird; why don't they use the standard exchange rates based on the GBP, where the game studio is located? edit: you did clarify it is Steam, so thanks
     
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  25. Bradley

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    NO preview stream tonight
     
  26. Javelin

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    Stream will be Thursday now due to staff illness.
     
  27. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Conrail is licensing issues.
     
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  28. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    You're right, should be about $12.75 according to current exchange rates. But that's been the case for regular dlc's for as long as I can remember. Guess that's something else " you just have to swallow ".
     
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    (Just an opinion)This may get deleted but I'll put it out there anyhow I really wish they would put half the effort into US content as foreign dlc i refer to the fact that if they checked the community share page of their own game they would see players have used their creativity and imaginations to re-create some amazing liveries I mean stunning really some of em and these 9 engines are already in the game including the 8098 conrail unit the missing 10th unit from this pack I know NS owns 51% of what used to be contail and csx owns 49% unfortunately if both parties dont agree licensing for a livery wont be possible plus csx just releaseed a conrail heritage gevo they dont want to share the conrail name with anyone else anyway irrelevant so with that said makes this pack unnecessary and once again shows unfathomable laziness for American content another example a previous pack for UP heritage 70 aces players created them too their are some seriously talented painters on this platform i wish they'd stop recreating what we already have and put some actual effort into american content no not engine packs not more lazy copy and paste engine sounds/audio files and horns no more boring passenger services its train sim not foreign passenger sim new US maps with NEW locomotive types not in the game like gp 35s gp40s
    gp 50s gp 60 sd 45 tunnel motors
    Sd 50s sd 60s sd 75i's sd80 macs sd90 macs hell some alcos i mean the list goes on if passenger is all they know how to make let's make it interesting like the old saratoga and northcreek line or the
    Vermont rail system
    Maybe the Ohio central system ya know lines where freight and passenger are common

    A break from the Russian German British passenger stuff little more US

    And the bugs we'll they'll never be fixes crossings not working lighting issues etc tsw4 is already in trouble if after 3 titles yall still can't get your act together...
     
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  30. deeuu#6908

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    Russian?
     
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  31. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean boring passenger services. Lots of the services I've played are quite fun such as those on peninsula corridor, Harlem line and Boston Providence
     
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  32. hells.high.lord666

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    I was wondering where they got Russian from too!
     
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  33. antony.henley

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    Currently TSW 4 is not confirmed as well as No routes set in Russia?
     
  34. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

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    Why does everyone stumble over the "Russian" part? Why would your post get deleted is what I wanna know :D
     
  35. steveownzzz#6107

    steveownzzz#6107 Well-Known Member

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    He’s probably on mobile and made a ducking typo
     
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  36. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    i wouldnt want a russian route and i wouldnt buy a russian route.
     
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  37. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    tell us you dont play TSW without saying you dont play tsw
     
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    Because he’s just stolen DTG’s thunder….they were going to announce TSW4 “back in the USSR” :)
     
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    Agreed at this point in time I am not interested in seeing or purchasing anything Russian route either.
     
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    It is 100% not the time for a Russian route, and likely won't be for several years, if ever.
     
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  41. junior hornet

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    Wot, no Acle to Great Yarmouth. Not very good Norfolk then.
     
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  42. Garrison

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    Will there be ACe’a?
     
  43. rennekton#1349

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    Read the article
     
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    Maybe im alone with my opinion, but i still see skyhook as a dev polluting tsw with botched content.

    Why? Not because everything is bad what they do / release. Its simply the fact because skyhook doesnt literally give a (s)hit after their creation was dropped into the market.

    All devs struggle with quality problems, but dtg and rivet seem to care way more about improvemement.
    Probably the 50. post now, where i remind the cw44 rear bogie on cane creek is looking the wrong way around.

    Skyhook, your products are actually enjoyable but your "customer support" is beyond pathetic.
     
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  45. max#2873

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    This is message (21.03.2023) from SHG, after I pointed them issues with CC and HSC. They were focused on MML that time.... :

    Hello,
    Thanks for buying Cane Creek and getting in touch about an issue you’ve discovered.
    We’re currently very busy on another project but as soon as that is out the door, I can look into the issue you’ve found and hopefully get it resolved!

    Apologies for the delay, it’s been a busy month!

    Best regards,
    Cayne McIver
    QA Lead
    Skyhook Games
     
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    Well they haven't fixed that have they? They've also added MML now to the list of routes in major need of fixes and not having patches released for. Feels it's just a huge backlog of broken stuff waiting for fixes, then new stuff comes out.
     
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  47. Crosstie

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    First off, you need to moderate your language. If you have issues with SHG, then by all means express them in a critical fashion but without the use of expletives. And accusing someone of " polluting " the game is OTT.

    Second, many players are enjoying Cane Creek, HSC and MML despite the longstanding problems with those routes.

    Lastly, from what we can gather from Jane and now Adam and Cayne, SHG are working hard at correcting the issues with MML and the older routes. There's certainly no lack of developer/forum communication.

    I would also point out that I, for one, am grateful that at least one 3rd party is producing North American content during a time when we might be forgiven for thinking that DTG has virtually abandoned that segment of the player base.

    Actually, this is a Q & A thread, so wrong place for this kind of discussion.
    Apologies.
     
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  48. nepclassof84

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    Is horseshoe curve moving to tod4 like Sherman hill did?
     
  49. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    nope
     
  50. nepclassof84

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    I want to hear from dtg
     

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