Oakville Baby Bullet Layer Scrapped?

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  1. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    With the final Preservation Crew updates released, an earlier discussed piece of content is missing - the passenger train layer for OSD using CalTrain MP36. While inaccurate to an extent, it would have greatly helped the route, and with parallel timetables functionality, it wouldn't bother people aiming for accuracy. Adam has even shown the prepared timetable on a roadmap stream earlier this year.

    May I ask what happened to this, and will it possibly appear later?
     
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  2. fabristunt

    fabristunt Well-Known Member

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    It slipped into oblivion, together with the diesel railtours on SEHS. Gone and forgotten.
     
  3. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean the ones on the TSW3 version? It has been mentioned those will not come as they're replaced by the Jubilee services. But that at least was a piece of information provided; OSD passenger services were mentioned to be produced (frankly part of the Pres Crew update I was most looking forward to), progress was shown, and without a single piece of information thrown away now that OSD got its update.
     
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  4. erg73

    erg73 Well-Known Member

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    What surprises me most is that they dismissed the idea of including passenger services and at the same time spent time on this:

    Oakville Subdivision:
    • More passengers added to stations
    • Added Rush Hour passengers

    The whole thing is nonsense.
     
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  5. TimTri

    TimTri Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. I’m very surprised they left it out, especially considering Rush Hour passengers were added (which are completely useless without any passenger trains on the route). Could’ve just chucked the new services into a separate timetable and make everyone happy. Wonder what went wrong here.
     
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  6. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    IIRC, they even added PIS to the stations, which is nonsensical now.
     
  7. 5cip

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    hmmmmmm strange
     
  8. orb

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    Maybe they are in talks with GO Transit to get the license... It would make sense in such case.
     
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  9. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    That would require a new route, though - OSD is great for a layer from another DLC, but it is too short for a GO Transit add-on to be made specifically for it.
     
  10. FredElliott

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    Maybe they were added for custom scenario mode? I recall running a custom passenger thing on Oakville a while back and there were zero passengers. Don't have TSW3 yet to test
     
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  12. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I've even made one myself back when OSD and PennCorr released as Preserved for TSW2. It is a nice little 30-minute 5-stop run and it would greatly help making the route a little busier.
     
  13. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    The timetable updates for OSD and PenCor didn't make it to the release, it's having some technical issues - but not forgotten. Once they're resolved it'll go out.
     
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  14. TimTri

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    There’s a timetable update for Peninsula Corridor in development? I didn’t even know that! Something to be excited about for sure :D
     
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  15. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    Great to hear that. Any chance you could tell us something about the PenCor timetable? First time I heard about this
     
  16. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    Please, please, please add the option to disable layers. I don't want to see Caltrain trains in Canada.
     
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  17. Dinosbacsi

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    Timetable update for Peninsula Corridor? How comes? Doesn't that route have a pretty good timetable already?

    Anyway this is a bit of an off topic, but it's disappointing to see how little updates did LIRR get. At least they fixes the alerter in the M3 apparently, but I bet all the sound issues and whatnot are still present. I feel like LIRR is in the similar state now like the original NEC was. Broken to an extent that it would be easier to redo it from scratch, so it just remains forgotten...
     
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  18. dr1980

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    Thanks, really glad to hear that, I was disappointed when I didn’t see them on the OSD list but glad they’re still in the plans. Hopefully if we can’t get GO repaints we can at least get something generic green/white or even just white instead of Caltrain. It whatever they rolling stock looks like I’ll be happy to see it there.
     
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  19. Callum B.

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    Sort of. Last I heard they decided upon a two-state solution using the multiple timetable system.

    Cheers
     
  20. Blacknred81

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    Hmm, wonder if the Penn Corridor update is just passenger only, or if any freight was added to the timetable.....
     
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  21. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    One or two runs with ACes would be nice.
     
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  22. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't get a repaint since liveries and stuff are licensed and dtg aren't going to do unlicensed stuff. Just the addition of it is enough for it since dtg may never get the go license so I'm happy that are adding passenger services at all with what they have
     
  23. solicitr

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    That's what I suspected, since I doubt Adam's people would have spent all that time adding PIS and passengers to Oakville if passenger trains weren't coming.
     
  24. johneebgood

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    yea I have a good feeling about this. they must have something in the pipeline for this route why would they go to all the bother adding more bells and whistles just for the sake of it.
     
  25. MrbKlegend89

    MrbKlegend89 Active Member

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    Lirr was left for dead a long time ago and been broken, with small services to one of the "busiest railroad" in america....the dlc itself was a fail to begin with...
     
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