PlayStation One Simply Question About Tsw5 To The Devs

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  1. patrick#8082

    patrick#8082 Member

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    :mad:Hello yall!!

    Im buying every year TSW, back in time on my PS4 this time on my brand new PS5, i just have one simply question over the time...How the hell after paying my 75€ for the game, after all these years, after all these updates...a brand newt game is still not running smoothly, still have some microlags when a train pass near me, or when im arriving to the big city the hell is lagging... can one of the devs answer me that question???

    Simply...thank you DTG Matt ,DTG JD
     
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    The draw distances on PS5 are excessive and need paring back similarly to those on the Series X which runs comparatively smoothly. I've heard some baulk at this, but having run both side by side I can attest to the superior experience of smooth gameplay.
     
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    So we can start complaining on PS5 about the short draw distances? The game does not run smoothly on Series X just as the game does not run smoothly on PC. Even DTG can't show TSW without mcrolag and stutters. What we get on PS5 is comparable to what we see on TSW streams. If it ran smooth on Xbox Series X they would preview it on that device :D
     
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    The main reason is that TSW has to run on 5 platforms. PS4/PS5/Xbox Series S/X and PC. An AAA exclusive title from Sony is of course much better optimized for the in-house console than a multi-platform title. Micro stutters cannot be avoided even on high-end PCs; this has to do with the map architecture in the UE. An entire route is divided into several individual blocks because the entire route is never loaded into the RAM together. When a jump occurs from one block to another, i.e. you take the train from one to the next, the new block is reloaded immediately in real time, which can cause the micro stutters. In addition, the routes are becoming more and more detailed and the train stations larger with much more traffic, which also puts the hardware under strain. That's probably one of the reasons why some AAA titles take forever to develop, because optimization and testing, in addition to landscape and asset building, take time.

    BTW: I loaded the PS4 version of TSW5 onto the PS5 this week and it's amazing how smoothly the game can run when the graphics presets are turned down a bit. Despite that, the PS5 version is pretty good, but the final optimization touches are never fully completed due to time and testing reasons. This is also due to the fact that beta testing is mainly done on PC.
     
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    There's not much difference in the draw distances between the premium consoles, but it would be enough to calm the choppy frames on PS5. Personally I found the Series X very smooth overall, but my PC build is good once the shaders have been compiled on a given route. I'm also using the Lossless Scaling tool for frame generation (60->120 Hz) which does give a marvellous impression of fluidity.
     
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    There are many issues with the game which ought to have been addressed by now. Instead of which we got an updated 2D map that not only should have been the standard originally but seems to randomly crash the game. Route hopping which is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorcycle and the enhanced photo mode, really going to pause and take a snapshot when I’m focused on stopping at a red signal or making up late running.
     
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    Now DTG no longer has total control of its destiny, any development time spent improving how the game runs or giving users more graphical options or control, does not appear to be considered useful as it does not put cash directly in shareholders' pockets. Short-sighted, but evidently the case.
     
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    So you guys think that we taking a good product for about 75€?? Thats the main reason, or they have to finish the products to that level where we can say ok take my money, like other games with 50€ for example....for me the frustration is with the devs, they do not test all the platforms? and they saying ok we ready we release it? and taking money??? thats the main question....

    DTG JD DTG Matt
     
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    Even then, I doubt it would be previewed on Xbox series X. With the popping audio and z-fighting textures. That wouldn't sell the game;)
     
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    But what about the devs, did they saw problems like this? they reading and feeling the clients problems??
     
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    i cant understand this, we have 2024, i know games with half of the price that TSW5 running smoothly and nothing like this happen ever again, they need to rethink all the project and not making unfinished product, thats all...
     
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    Sorry it doesn't fit here. But I can't get any answers, so I'm fishing.

    Literally can't get anything in this game to work.It's not a matter of not knowing how it's a matter of nothing works the same twice
    Nothing ever loads the same twice
    I've made replies for helping can't get them.I can't get a refund.I can't find tutorials because all the ones in the games are useless and don't cover anything that actually happens

    I'm just really confused.Am I beating my head over something?Or nothing.
    Cause I don't want to walk away.But this is about to be the last game.I ever buy or play....2024 is a real game killer


    Granted, I'm the one that spent massive amounts of money off the bat But when something's published to purchase is being new.I didn't think there was an issue but now I feel genuinely ripped off its unplayable
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    What exactly is the problems you're having?
     
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    azrail#2580 Member

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    Bro. Every time I load something in it wont-work.I can go through the procedure.It won't let me set the reverser.Acts like it stuck in dynamic set up
    One engine I load and all the switches are on running 1.All the switches are off running and it doesn't matter which order I go in or how many videos I watch It does.What it wants to do when it wants to do it

    Is there like an automatic setting?I need to switch or something?
     
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    azrail#2580 Member

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    It's hard for me to explain because so many things just don't work.I don't even know if they're supposed to be there or not

    But main thing is when I pour it in engine and it's running.But all the switches off and I turn all the switches on and it still doesn't move what th f

    And then when I grab a handle and I go to move the handle and it physically doesn't move half the time for no apparent reason like that's what I mean by broken
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    It would help if you gave details on the routes and/or trains you're having problems with.
     
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    azrail#2580 Member

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    Ok when I put the sd seventy down on the track in sand patch grade immediately after loading
    First question
     
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    azrail#2580 Member

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    Why?
    Is it when I open the map to set a path It freezes up I can't interact everything and must restart
    Because if I don't set a path.I drive a hundred feet and I don't have permission and it kicks me out

    Number 2.
    When I load the next loco I can't get through the setup process because it's stuck in the set up for dynamic break
    And no matter what I do it will not interact with that handle
     
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    I put a locomotive down.Sometimes it's running , sometimes it's set up to run

    And yet won't move
    Sometimes it set to be shut off but yet it's running

    And vise versa

    It doesn't matter if I load it and don't touch it
    Its always different. Same locos. Smae maps.
    Always loads different setup half broken undriveable
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I fail to understand your issues.

    Everything works perfectly fine for me.
     
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    Honestly it sounds like you’re just not familiar with the trains. Forget about trying to tackle multiple things. Find a train you want to drive, do the training as many times as you need to, look around the internet if you need to for deeper insight into it & just become familiar with it.

    Once you’re comfortable with how one train works you’ll get a general idea of how similar trains will work & whilst the process won’t always be the same, the fundamentals of operation are.

    Trains are complex, but surface level operation is more simple than it seems. Yes, DTG are terrible with showing you what to do & it doesn’t help that they let software bugs fly out the door, personally I couldn’t imagine coming into TSW with 0 knowledge of train operation.

    Same goes for the mechanics of TSW itself, things are badly explained, but give us a clear understanding of what you’re struggling with & we can explain to you how to resolve the issue.
     
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    Dude, you are making this so much more complicated than it is.It has nothing to do with any of that

    I'm doing two things i'm trying to do two things
    I'm trying to play on free roam and drop a locomotive down and drive that is it

    What isn't working or I'm failing to understand is why eight or nine times out of ten I do the same thing exactly the way everybody is telling me to do it
    But from the very start when the game loads in it is not the same as theirs.I do the same thing they tell me to and I don't get the same outcomes


    Every other time I open the map, it's necessary.You have to do it
    Every.
    Other time , it freezes and I have to restart the game

    I spent money.So I could drive this locomotive every other time.I climb in it within 10 15 seconds.A minute of the game loading

    I simply walk up inside of it.

    Set brakes and drive

    Do the same thing later that day
    And half of it doesnt work.....doesnt repsond.....same exact thing


    Again, this isn't some like secretive.Complicated process to set up some breaks.It's got nothing to do with knowing how to set it up

    It's the inconsistencies of the game.Or I do the same things exactly the same way and it's giving different outcomes

    Like I said three times I put the same thing in front of me on the same map in the same place

    And from the bat half the time it's running half the time it's not some times breakers set sometimes not


    But you guys you keep trying to send these little jabs.And s*** of like 0 train operation 0 knowledge bro.This is the same as Microsoft train.Simulator was almost 30 years ago.With some admods on it.We did it when we were like 9 years old.So you guys got to get off your high horse


    This is a matter of inconsistencies within the game.I'm trying to figure out how to get working.Not teach myself how to do something

    If I didn't know how to do it.I would have just gone back to one of the videos that teaches you how to do it.But that's not what i'm getting at

    I think that's why you're not understanding this
     
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    Like is it set up to just spawn things with random setups?

    Do I need to spawn at ten different times and just see what works

    Because what confused me the most is I got mad and I shut every single thing down I could
    Entire train motor batteries.Everything started completely over

    But you don't even need to do that.I set the brakes and start the motor and that's it.You can skip all the fuses everything

    So if that's the case why is it not just simply working every time?Why are all these things being simulated when they're not except other than to just make things not work
     
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    Just a little smidge of advice to the ranting newcomer, if you just dialed the attitude down and calmly said what platform your playing on and what steps you are following people would more likely be able to help you, being civil and calm will get you so much further than being a absolute rude arse to the people trying to help, and translate your swearing rants.......
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    We can't give you much help if you don't provide specific details.

    What trains are you using? Is it a scenario, timetable, or free roam? Is it an issue with a route? Are you following the correct procedures to get the train moving?

    Those sort of questions will likely give you the answer you're looking for. Being rude and non specific will yield no results.
     
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    Why does it still run and drive with

    Bro again

    Sd70
    Sand patch
    Free roam
    I put the train on the tracks
    You set what you need to set in the procedure.I'm not wording it out for you dude

    But you can't set it up because it acts like it's stuck in dynamic brake off the start

    Or I could load it in and it doesn't do that and it's fine, but it's not my choice.It's doing what it wants to
     
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    Like I turn off gas and press stop engine and it won't stop the engine(example)

    But even if when it does , I can still Drive it with the thing not running

    So why am I going through the startup procedures?If none of the buttons actually affect anything?


    I mean the first 10 times I did it.You climb in, you flip the generator field.You cut in and you drive no problems

    I do the same thing a day later. And now, when I go to give it throttle, the box is just yellow for no reason and I turn around and all the breakers are randomly flipped. Some things are cut in. Some things are cut to defective like it doesn't make sense.

    So I can randomly reload or just place one down and delete it 5 6 7 fifteen times until one of them works

    So is this a thing?Or do I need to change a setting or what

    Because.
    Whenever a few of the other ones do it
    You just put the handle to position one and back to off and it fixes it

    Another great example.The p c s reset that everybody gives this complicated procedure and all these things to do

    When all you do is flip the break valve to out and back to in in half of a second it's cleared

    I've been trying to find a reason to do this reset procedure for a week.And there's no reason to do it in any case
     
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    Not much of a freeroam person myself but what I have noticed is that whatever train you sporn in you must always set the destination on the map first, literally bum on seat, destination set, then go through the set up procedure and boom you drive off, set destination after the the set up procedure and it will lock up the controls, so remember ARSE ON SEAT, DESTINATION SET, THEN IT'S SET UP PROCEDURE, you should be sorted.......
     
  29. Spikee1975

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    Exactly. As long as the consist has no initial path, it's static and "dead". Certain initialisation scripts are only processed as soon as the consist becomes a service.

    Btw, wasn't there a complaint recently about the death of the adverb?

    A simple question must simply be asked... ;)
     
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    No.
    You only have to set destination if you're crossing a signal.So if you're in a yard or your own cut You don't have to set anything

    But That's something entirely seperate
     
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    Again, we're on set up.This has nothing to do with signals
    I've stated the engine.I've stated the map.I've stated the game mode
    I stopped ranting I stopped name colling
    And yet here you guys are replying with something unrelated.In the first thing you say is some about adverbs and all this bs
    I dont have time for the woman bs talk so fk it

    I give up
    You people dont know LOVE more than the devs that made this cluster mess of a game it seems

    Cause i've got a handful of you saying all this
    Any info I get other than this site literally tells me to just walk away
    Deuces
     
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